Roe vs Wade overturned

Guess the Gop is really going down in the midterms then. Or is that not related to those opinion polls?
After all, if the state governments that are running the changes into actual law won't suffer, it sort of implies the "gut feeling" is on your side.
You are forgetting we have state legislature in which Dem types win 60% of the vote and still only get 30% of the seats...so
 
This is wild...eggs have "all rights"? Does that mean menstruating is manslaughter?
If they take this to the "logical" extreme, that would mean putting 10-year-old girls in prison for the crime of not getting pregnant.
 

We are having local discussion as to whether it is better to recommend women delete the service, or if we flood the service with non useful data. Like, people could use them to track their TV time, or their laundry habits, or whatever. Pull some actual use out of it, but make the data scrambled with regards to trawling the Metadata.

I will let computer science people here comment. That said, shouldn't it be super casual to find an app that doesn't upload the data that you put into it?​
I am not familiar with these apps, but I would guess they track ones period, with perhaps body temperature as well? Would not excel work? It seems it should be pretty trivial to write an open source privacy aware solution. There are ones that claim to be so, but if it is not open source and popular enough that someone has had a good look at the code I would not trust it.
 
At least we established one issue where Russia is more liberal than the US.

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https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/abortion-rates-by-country

#1 in abortion rates.

I am surprised with the stat for Greece, though (5%). I was under the impression that it was a multiple of that. Probably it's due to ubiquitous use of contraception pills. That said, googling does lead to other results with a much higher percentage.
 
Isn't that loosely the premise of Handmaiden's Tale?
The Handmaid's Tale. Handmaids are fully adult women, not little girls.

No. The Handmaid's Tale is what you get when a group of domestic terrorists kills the legitimate government and takes over, imposing its own twisted religious ideology on everyone. The birthrate has drastically fallen, so their notion of how to improve things is to force fertile women to undergo ceremonial rape for 3 days every month (during their most fertile days) by the Commander they belong to, and if they fail to become pregnant within a set time, they get a new posting with a new Commander. If they haven't conceived a baby by the end of their third posting, they are declared UnWoman and sent to the "colonies" - work camps for the criminal element of Gilead (at least those not executed) where they are forced to help clean up toxic sludge. Life expectancy in the colonies is measured in weeks to months, as there is no medical care.

Female children are Daughters, and their destiny is (depending on the status of their fathers) either to become an Econowife or a Wife (Wives have far grander status than an Econowife).

Some people in the comment sections of the YT review videos have the bizarre notion that the daughters of Handmaids will also become Handmaids, but this isn't true. The fact is that most people who post those comments, or even those who do the videos haven't actually read the novel the series is based on. There are a lot of misunderstandings and misinformation out there.

And no, the show isn't about Trump. Margaret Atwood would have to have the gift of prophecy to make it about Trump, as the book was published in 1985.
 
At least we established one issue where Russia is more liberal than the US.

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https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/abortion-rates-by-country

#1 in abortion rates.

I am surprised with the stat for Greece, though (5%). I was under the impression that it was a multiple of that. Probably it's due to ubiquitous use of contraception pills. That said, googling does lead to other results with a much higher percentage.

I'm not sure where the stats on this would even exist in Australia. I doubt it's complete or accurate.
 
At least we established one issue where Russia is more liberal than the US.

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https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/abortion-rates-by-country

#1 in abortion rates.

I am surprised with the stat for Greece, though (5%). I was under the impression that it was a multiple of that. Probably it's due to ubiquitous use of contraception pills. That said, googling does lead to other results with a much higher percentage.
It is worth noting the last paragraph on that page:

Perhaps surprisingly, studies show that abortion rates are often higher in nations where abortion is illegal than they are in nations where it is legal. This is because abortion tends to be more readily available in wealthier, more developed nations, where women are less likely to experience an unplanned pregnancy—in large part because birth control and proper sexual education are also widely available and sexual crimes are less common.​
 
I agree @ Samson

I would also note that where abortion is legal it is regulated, and the medical industry imposes costs.

Where it is illegal, the competitive black market can do it much cheaper, albeit much less safely.
 
For proper function, the data needs to be stored in such a way that it can be retrieved for a single user, so it cannot be stored in an aggregated form. And if the raw data is there, you just need to employ someone intelligent enough for long enough to get meaningful data out of it. Yes, the server might crash and burn, or no one invests enough to extract the data, but do you really want to bet on that?
I meant extracting it on aggregate, but in terms of data parsing . . . I dunno. Do you think it's as easy as hiring someone who's good enough to extract meaningful data from all the junk? That would necessitate someone who's a domain expert with regards to the type of medical data we're talking about.

But regardless, I was operating on a mistaken assumption. I forgot GDPR is only for companies that operate internationally (i.e. in Europe). Homegrown stuff in the US has no need to comply, so I'd update my advice to @El_Machinae to just advocate deleting the services / apps wherever possible. And if people still want to mess with the services, even reverse engineer them to see what data is being passed back to law enforcement (or beyond the scope of the service itself) . . . well, folks like that exist, I'm sure.
Yes there is a lot of trash out there. But filtering out the trash would only make it easier for law enforcement to get access. If there are only a few providers left over, which keep all the documentation in order, use well-maintained code, and have good database management, law enforcement would be one subpoena away from having good , curated data.
I'm not talking about somehow permanently downing the service. The point of flooding a service with random data is to reduce its effectiveness, is all.
 
I read firsthand reports in trans Discord servers of AFAB (assigned female at birth) adults who go to their doctors to get hysterectomies as part of transitioning and get told they need permission from their husband first. This is in 20effing22. Most trans folks that are now stealthing - undetectable as trans - have at least a few stories of how differently they get treated in places like hospitals versus when they were there as their birth gender. If there's anyone here who is under any pretense that women in the US are still second-class citizens when it comes to medical treatment, let me assure you that it still is a fairly common circumstance.
 
I cannot speak for the USA, but in the UK women live nearly four years longer than men.

Which would seem to imply that the NHS institutionally discriminates in favour of women.
 
i don't see how this one can stand under equal protections clause. you need personhood to make bans on aborting fetuses work, and assigning personhood to eggs...yikes. the logical implications of that don't allow for functional law.

i suspect a few states are about to get hammered by lawsuits soon, and states doing crap like this will lose those lawsuits. "not having a constitutional right to abortion" and "blatantly violating multiple amendments" are different things. doing things against the constitution in order to block them should not be considered lawful.

My guy, there's a lot of things that shouldn't stand that do stand (and vice versa), because the courts have been captured by far-right extremists who don't care for things like "logical implications" or "functional laws", they just wish to bend the facts of a case and the words of a law as written to decree whatever the hell they feel like.
 
I cannot speak for the USA, but in the UK women live nearly four years longer than men.

Which would seem to imply that the NHS institutionally discriminates in favour of women.

Yes clearly US, UK, and global life expectancy showing women living 3-5 years longer than men means that men are the ones negatively discriminated against in healthcare, and it has nothing to do with testosterone's impact on male immune systems, or male tendencies to engage in more dangerous habits and behaviors, or lower likelihood for males to seek prompt treatment for medical issues.

(/sarcasm, in case it isn't adequately obvious)
 
When I was younger the invariable female receptionists at UK doctor's practices would
often run away from the counter, and even hide, when I sought a doctor's appointment.

They took the view that any young man wanting to see a doctor was almost certainly
skiving and wasting the doctor's time seeking a sick note to get off attending work.
Whereas the ladies were openly welcomed and quickly found an appointment.

Fortunately for me things have improved as I have got older, and live elsewhere.

My point is I don't buy the argument that discrimination only works one way.
 
They took the view that any young man wanting to see a doctor was almost certainly
skiving and wasting the doctor's time seeking a sick note to get off attending work.
Whereas the ladies were openly welcomed and quickly found an appointment.
The plural of anecdote is not data. It's anecdotes.
 
If you like your legal commentary in video form Legal Eagle has done a thing on the decision. Seems to me pretty consistent on ruling based on ideology and convenience rather than law.

Spoiler Legal Eagle youtube :
 
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