[RD] Russia Invades Ukraine: The 7th Thread Itch; scratch it here!

[Broken_Erika]

Ukraine war: Two foreign aid workers die in Russian missile strike​

Two foreign aid volunteers have been killed and two others injured in a missile attack in Ukraine.
The Road to Relief NGO said Anthony Ihnat, a Canadian, died in what it described as a "Russian attack" on a vehicle driving toward Bakhmut.
Spain's government said a Spanish woman was also killed. The NGO had said its director Emma Igual, 32, was missing.
The group said the vehicle suffered a "direct hit" near Chasiv Yar on Saturday, flipped over and caught fire.

Road to Relief, which is registered in Ukraine, added in its statement that German medical volunteer Ruben Mawick and Johan Mathias Thyr, a Swede, were badly injured by shrapnel but were stable in hospital.
The aid workers had left from Slovyansk and were headed to the Bakhmut area to assess the needs of civilians "caught in crossfire" in the town of Ivanivske, the statement said.

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The group did not confirm Spanish media reports that Ms Igual had died, only that her whereabouts were unknown.
However Spain's foreign minister, Jose Manuel Albares, stated on Sunday that a Spanish woman had been killed in the attack.
"A projectile fell on a vehicle in which this Spanish citizen was travelling," he said. "She was working there at an NGO helping with the humanitarian situation."
Road to Relief said that the volunteers were working as a "needs assessment" team, "often the first to go into frontline villages".
Their work had "resulted in numerous evacuations and crucial aid deliveries over the 18 months that we have been in operation," it said.
Mr Ihnat was described in an online tribute by fellow NGO Action Beyond Words as "an unbelievably gentle, kind guy who would light up any room".

"We remember a beautiful hero to Ukraine," it said.
Eastern Ukraine has become increasingly dangerous for aid workers, both Ukrainian and international.
In its latest report, published last week, the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs said that there had been 100 "security incidents" affecting aid work this year.
"Attacks impacting distribution points have steadily increased throughout the year, forcing a temporary suspension of aid on many occasions," it said.
"In 2023, at least six aid workers were killed and 16 injured in the line of duty in Ukraine, compared to four killed in the whole of 2022."
In January, British nationals Chris Parry and Andrew Bagshaw were killed as they tried to evacuate civilians in Soledar, north of Bakhmut, as Russia's Wagner mercenary group closed in.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66768351

 

[Verbose]

I usually agree with your posts, but really, are France or the UK lobbing cruise missiles at grain silos, apartment buildings, and theatres in some other country? What remains of the British Empire are tiny fragments of land that don't care what London says. The French are losing their battle to keep its lackeys in power in its former colonies.

Right now, we have a nuclear farmer power trying to impose its will on a much smaller country. That's imperialism at its finest.

Funnily enough it's not that much smaller. Russia is really going to have to unhinge its jaw to swallow Ukraine, even it it would turn out to be able to defeat it militarily.

 

[red_elk]

Except once Russia is victorious, these girls are going to have to go to Ukraine to force the Ukranians to be Russians

I don't know what this even supposed to mean. When Russia is victorious these girls most certainly won't go anywhere they aren't going now.

Oh NO how can the Evil NATO allow an investigation and then free press make correction to the story

Ukrainians falsely accusing Russians is not really surprising, but the fact that this time they got caught lying is admittedly unusual.

 

[Thorgalaeg]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1700933800631374284

Russia’s war in Ukraine synonymous with torture: UN expert

KYIV (10 September 2023) – Russia’s armed aggression is becoming synonymous with torture and other inhuman cruelty, a UN expert said today.

www.ohchr.org

 

[FriendlyFire]

Ukrainians falsely accusing Russians is not really surprising, but the fact that this time they got caught lying is admittedly unusual.

My dear ivan you invaded neighboring country based on false accusations of mistreatment of "Russian speakers" and "banning Russian language"
It always amazes me how Russians can understand media manipulation but never questions there own media or leaders

 

[Snowygerry]

Hm - yes the intellectual honesty I was talking about earlier, maybe the boy saw the reflection on the water of a Russian throwing a bottle as he jumped in the river, an easy mistake to make

Offen bleibt die Frage, ob der Mann den Jungen im Fluss mit einer Glasflasche beworfen und getroffen hat. Auf die Frage, ob er den Wurf gespürt habe, antwortete das Kind nach Angaben der Staatsanwaltschaft: »ein bisschen«. Die Ermittlungen gegen Unbekannt sollen voraussichtlich eingestellt werden.

Good to see German grundlichkeit ist intakt.

 

[Verbose]

I don't know what this even supposed to mean. When Russia is victorious these girls most certainly won't go anywhere they aren't going now.

It means Russians don't fear the implications of a military victory against Ukraine the way they should. It also means you don't take the war as seriously as you should of course.

They really should.

 

[red_elk]

My dear ivan you invaded neighboring country based on false accusations of mistreatment of "Russian speakers" and "banning Russian language"
It always amazes me how Russians can understand media manipulation but never questions there own media or leaders

My dear john, you always like to accuse Russians in whataboutism, but when unpleasant news about Ukrainian lies arises, you immediately jump into "but Russia did this and that!!!1111" bandwagon

It means Russians don't fear the implications of a military victory against Ukraine the way they should. It also means you don't take the war as seriously as you should of course.

They really should.

The implications of a victory are still far better than the implications of prolonged conflict for years.

 

[red_elk]

British man who travelled to Ukraine to fight in international legion, now dead in the water.

British man fighting in Ukraine found dead in water with his hands bound

An inquest to understand the cause of his death will be held in February.

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Verbose]

The implications of a victory are still far better than the implications of prolonged conflict for years.

No, the impliactions of Russian victory in Ukraine is precisely conflict for years. There is no end in sight for Russia, or anyone else west of it then.

It will end nothing. And what it will further do is land Russia with the job of trying to swallow Ukraine, which will give Russia the mother of all meat-sweats, if it can even do it. Even if it can, it will take all Russia's resources for a very long time, generations likely, since the Ukranians will not go willingly, even if defeated and deprived of their country.

But as said, and the Russian government is deliberately trying to keep things like that, the penny of the enormity of what Russia is engaged in has still to drop in Russia.

Case in point, you posting inane videos to the effect of how everything is "normal"...

 

[Thorgalaeg]

Ukraine says it has retaken offshore drilling platforms near Crimea

Ukrainian forces have regained control from Russia of several gas and oil offshore drilling platforms close to Crimea, Ukraine's military intelligence (GUR) said on Monday.

www.reuters.com

Close NATO navy drills having something to do possibly.

 

[red_elk]

Curtailing aid to Ukraine will only prolong the war, Mr Zelensky argues. And it would create risks for the West in its own backyard. There is no way of predicting how the millions of Ukrainian refugees in European countries would react to their country being abandoned. Ukrainians have generally “behaved well” and are “very grateful” to those who sheltered them. They will not forget that generosity. But it would not be a “good story” for Europe if it were to “drive these people into a corner”.

Donald Trump will “never” support Putin, says Volodymyr Zelensky

But Ukraine’s president fears that some of his country’s Western backers are losing faith

www.economist.com

So, Zelensky is now threatening Europe with riots of Ukrainian refugees in case if aid is discontinued.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Russian refugees in Europe have behaved well so far, but who knows what happens when the war ends or drags on. There is no way of predicting.

 

[Remorseless1]

Russia has basically been fighting somewhere (Chechnya, Georgia, now Ukraine) since 2006. No matter how the war against Ukraine turns out, Putin's desire to reestablish the Russian empire will lead to conflict on the periphery of Russia in the near future.

 

[EvaDK]

The Russian occupied territory in Ukraine atm, equals less than 1% of Russia's own land area. So, if this is Putin doing land conquest for the glory of Imperial Russia, he sucks at it.

Russia has lost around half of its operational land forces in Ukraine (death+casualties) in just 1½ year and has very little to show for such a sacrifice. While Russia's conventional forces are bleeding out, NATO is rearming and enlarging. Strategically Russia has already lost as none of Putin objectives with starting the war have been achieved. His 'strategy' at the moment seems to be digging in and hoping that the political winds change in the West in 2024. Which means Ukraine and its allies will have all the initiative.

 

[Farm Boy]

Turning land into a hellscape and then squatting on it seems to be at the heart of historical Russian military success. Their land, somebody else's country, same difference. I'd be wary of assuming it's a default losing move.

 

[Remorseless1]

Didn't some Roman general say something "I made a wasteland and called it peace"?

 

[Verbose]

Didn't some Roman general say something "I made a wasteland and called it peace"?

Nah, the Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus put those words into the mouth of Britannic chief called Brennus, who made the comment about the Romans in one of his books.

 

[Sarin]

Meanwhile...

'Iron Felix' rises again over Russia's spy service in Moscow

A bronze statue of "Iron Felix" Dzerzhinsky, the ruthless founder of the Soviet secret police and architect of the Red Terror which followed the 1917 revolution, was unveiled on Monday at the headquarters of Russia's foreign spy service.

www.reuters.com

Russia yet again erects monument to a monster. The Red Terror is back, I guess....

 

[Lexicus]

Russia yet again erects monument to a monster. The Red Terror is back, I guess....

Wow, this is pretty on the nose. It's just about as bad as making a monument to Stepan Bandera.