Single Player bugs and crashes v38 plus (SVN) - After the 20th of February 2018

[Dancing Hoskuld]

I'm not convinced the animal is all there is to it. You've really based it on a spearman template so as to suggest there are spearmen handlers. Similar all-animal logic could be used for Rhinos too.

Exactly. I keep trying to introduce interesting and different units and you go and make them the same as all the others. Just like you did with the initial rhino unit.

 

[Nakkimunakas]

SVN 10069

Making changes in the domestic advisor screen aren't being saved when you reload the game like it was in the older versions at some point.

 

[raxo2222]

SVN 10069

Making changes in the domestic advisor screen aren't being saved when you reload the game like it was in the older versions at some point.

You need to delete CustomDomAdv folder in UserSettings, so things would be saved.

I use SVN, so I forced it to completely ignore this folder, so nothing is put back in it.

@Toffer90 can you look at this, so we don't have to delete or ignore (SVN users) CustomDomAdv folder in user settings, if we want to save changes to custom advisor?
Essentially it is suggestion for non-SVN players. I think its something related to Python.

Python file, that controls loading and saving custom domestic advisor is here:
\Caveman2Cosmos\Assets\Python\Screens\CvCustomizableDomesticAdvisor.py

It appears folder with default custom advisor was added in 2016 by DH, and this is incompatible with current way of saving changes in custom domestic advisor.

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

You need to delete CustomDomAdv folder in UserSettings, so things would be saved.

I use SVN, so I forced it to completely ignore this folder, so nothing is put back in it.

@Toffer90 can you look at this, so we don't have to delete or ignore (SVN users) CustomDomAdv folder in user settings, if we want to save changes to custom advisor?
Essentially it is suggestion for non-SVN players. I think its something related to Python.

Python file, that controls loading and saving custom domestic advisor is here:
\Caveman2Cosmos\Assets\Python\Screens\CvCustomizableDomesticAdvisor.py

It appears folder with default custom advisor was added in 2016 by DH, and this is incompatible with current way of saving changes in custom domestic advisor.

If it is not there it breaks for people not using English. If you are using English you have to delete it before you save.

 

[raxo2222]

If it is not there it breaks for people not using English. If you are using English you have to delete it before you save.

Thats why I tagged Toffer, so he would make python code responsible for this more robust.
Essentially it would save to and load from
UserSettings/CustomDomAdv/CustomDomAdv.txt (English, default file for languages other than German and Italian)
UserSettings/CustomDomAdv/CustomDomAdv_ger.txt (If German language is selected)
UserSettings/CustomDomAdv/CustomDomAdv_ita.txt (If Italian language is selected)
UserSettings/CustomDomAdv/WS_CustomDomAdv.txt (Not sure what this one do)
depending on language.

Now it saves to
UserSettings/CustomDomAdv.txt

and loads from
UserSettings/CustomDomAdv/CustomDomAdv.txt
if this folder is present.

 

[strategyonly]

38.5 is now available for download. this is the one that should have been the 38.0 release . . .

 

[Toffer90]

You need to delete CustomDomAdv folder in UserSettings, so things would be saved.

I use SVN, so I forced it to completely ignore this folder, so nothing is put back in it.

@Toffer90 can you look at this, so we don't have to delete or ignore (SVN users) CustomDomAdv folder in user settings, if we want to save changes to custom advisor?
Essentially it is suggestion for non-SVN players. I think its something related to Python.

Python file, that controls loading and saving custom domestic advisor is here:
\Caveman2Cosmos\Assets\Python\Screens\CvCustomizableDomesticAdvisor.py

It appears folder with default custom advisor was added in 2016 by DH, and this is incompatible with current way of saving changes in custom domestic advisor.

I'll look into it, the SVN should ideally not contain the userSettings folder at all.
The userSetting folder was empty in the SVN a couple of public releases ago, I think I get the reason why DH added those files to the SVN, something related to languages and saving/loading correct user setting file for the domestic advisor.
Again, I'll look into it.

 

[Thunderbrd]

Exactly. I keep trying to introduce interesting and different units and you go and make them the same as all the others. Just like you did with the initial rhino unit.

I'm not sure how giving them the most unique ability in the game is 'making them the same as all the others.'

 

[Thunderbrd]

I'll look into it, the SVN should ideally not contain the userSettings folder at all.
The userSetting folder was empty in the SVN a couple of public releases ago, I think I get the reason why DH added those files to the SVN, something related to languages and saving/loading correct user setting file for the domestic advisor.
Again, I'll look into it.

There should be some kind of default user settings. One of the best ways to get the no user interface bug coming up is to let someone start without any user settings folder definitions by default. Of course, if that happens they can initialize the folder and defaults at least by starting a play now game first then they can set things up as they wish them later.

 

[strategyonly]

couple of things???

1. Police Mech and Sentinel cant "capture" throw out criminals?? pic 1/2

2. Dont know what the sleuth is but it cant do criminals either?? pic 3

3. what is the "magsail" used for i dont see that it can do anything at all, no options in the btn area for anything??? pic 4

 

[Thunderbrd]

1. Police Mech and Sentinel cant "capture" throw out criminals?? pic 1/2

Are any of those criminals 'wanted'? No LE unit can arrest a criminal that isn't wanted yet. Just because you see them doesn't mean you can prove them guilty enough to be arrested.

The Sleuth promos are there to help you investigate them so that they can become 'wanted'. It doesn't make them automatically able to arrest criminals.


3) no idea.

 

[raxo2222]

3. what is the "magsail" used for i dont see that it can do anything at all, no options in the btn area for anything??? pic 4

This is space unit.
It doesn't do anything on Earth, and you need space map to use it.

There are several space units, that you can build on Earth.
Space Shuttle, Heavy Rocket, Satellite, Solar Sail, Magsail and few more
I think I should add tip saying, that those units shouldn't be built if you aren't playing on space map.

I saw, that you built other space rated units too in your save. Those don't do anything on earth, you need space map scenario for them to have any use.

Here are all space units buildable on Earth.

Spoiler :

 

[Nakkimunakas]

SVN 10069
Workers are easy to exploit in diplomacy trade. They are way too valuable and you can get techs for just a couple workers in trade.

 

[strategyonly]

Getting this "replicator plant" every time BACK no matter how many time i build it, in the Galactic era . . .

 

[raxo2222]

Getting this "replicator plant" every time BACK no matter how many time i build it, in the Galactic era . . .

I fixed it - it wasn't replaced by atomic and quantum assembler, which replace molecular assembler.

I see you are in Cosmic era now.

@pepper2000 I modified your module.
Those assemblers needs streamlining and strong boost by the way.
There is not much difference between 1000% and 1005% base boost.

 

[pepper2000]

OK, thanks. I'm not sure how much more production boost Earth buildings need in the late game. I find that cities with automated production typically clear out the build lists or come very close in the Cosmic Era.

 

[Thunderbrd]

SVN 10069
Workers are easy to exploit in diplomacy trade. They are way too valuable and you can get techs for just a couple workers in trade.

There's a global that can adjust the trade value of workers by a percentage. I just put it in play last cycle. I don't play nor advocate playing with tech trading if I can avoid it so I wouldn't see how this plays out.

@raxo2222 : do you know where this global is?

 

[raxo2222]

OK, thanks. I'm not sure how much more production boost Earth buildings need in the late game. I find that cities with automated production typically clear out the build lists or come very close in the Cosmic Era.

I was talking about line, that starts with epsilon assembler.
Production boost would be most useful in Information - Galactic era, as a lot of buildings appears here.
If Earth buildings appears in Cosmic/Transcendent eras, then it takes their time to get built.
So I suggest:
Epsilon Assembler - +25 and +25%
Delta Assembler - +50 and +50%
Gamma Assembler - +75 and +75%
Beta Assembler - +100 and +100%
Alpha Assembler - +125 and +125%
Omega Assembler - +150 and +150% (requires one of four matter assemblers)
Aleph Assembler - +175 and +175%
Those don't replace each other.
Or those just would be percentage increase, that is additive increase of base boost.

Molecular Assembler - +75% (replaces Replicator Plant (+25%) and Nanobotic Printing Mill (+35%) - 60% base)
Atomic Assembler - +100%
Quantum Assembler +150%
Materializer - +300%
Molecular assembler is replaced by atomic assembler, that gets replaced by quantum assembler and it gets replaced by materializer.
Those production boosts represent vast advances in matter manipulation.
Can Omega assembler require Alpha assembler instead of one of four matter assemblers?
Similarly Aleph Assembler would require Omega Assembler.
Molecular assembler would be simple extension to Alpha assembler, Atomic and Quantum assemblers would be extension to Omega Assembler and Materializer would be extension to Aleph assembler.

There is bug, that hides things even if you have all "hide X" BUG options unselected.
If you unhide all things, then stuff should be there even if it grayed out.
I think game gets confused by circular OR prereq.
That is Atomic Assembler is one of OR prereqs for Omega assembler, but Atomic Assembler needs Omega assembler.

There's a global that can adjust the trade value of workers by a percentage. I just put it in play last cycle. I don't play nor advocate playing with tech trading if I can avoid it so I wouldn't see how this plays out.

@raxo2222 : do you know where this global is?

Its in global defines.
Probably this one - I just searched for "worker" in files
<DefineName>WORKER_TRADE_VALUE_PERCENT_ADJUSTMENT</DefineName>
<iDefineIntVal>-50</iDefineIntVal>

 

[Thunderbrd]

Its in global defines.
Probably this one - I just searched for "worker" in files
<DefineName>WORKER_TRADE_VALUE_PERCENT_ADJUSTMENT</DefineName>
<iDefineIntVal>-50</iDefineIntVal>

That's it. Perhaps it still needs to come down some.

 

[BlueGenie]

Question:

With the changes to healing with per people, ships, and animals, have the Heroic and Priestly promotions granting extra heal also been updated? If not they are just sitting there doing nothing.