The future of Tesla

[Farm Boy]

behaves like

Behaves like?

 

[Oerdin]

I question Tesla’s decision to build their third car factory in Germany given the high costs associated with that country. At least they are building it in eastern Germany though, honestly, Poland seems like it would have obviously been a better choice due to lower costs.

 

[Lillefix]

Looks like the Germans might have to know Musk down a few notches. No 70 hours work weeks there.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ger...e-teslas-new-berlin-factory-2019-11?r=US&IR=T

 

[Oerdin]

Many people would love to have 20 hours of 1.5 times pay and 10 hours of double time pay. Hell, if people want to work hard to make extra money then why stop them?

Just another reason why Germany is a bad place to have a factory in this day and age.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Many people would love to have 20 hours of 1.5 times pay and 10 hours of double time pay. Hell, if people want to work hard to make extra money then why stop them?

Just another reason why Germany is a bad place to have a factory in this day and age.

You ever worked in a factory that is on permanent overtime?
It destroys families and is not well received.

 

[Hrothbern]

I question Tesla’s decision to build their third car factory in Germany given the high costs associated with that country. At least they are building it in eastern Germany though, honestly, Poland seems like it would have obviously been a better choice due to lower costs.

Four arguments against Poland:

1.
The big market forTesla cars, a rather expensive segment, is in the rich EU countries, in the big rich countries.
Why would Musk risk Poland breaking out from the EU ?
Any EU country at more extreme continuous political collission course with the general consensus of the EU is putting big investments in their country based on free unrestricted access to the Single Market of the EU at risk.
Any country that has a more volatile domestic political situation has worse cards for such big longterm investments than stable countries.

2.
Wages and real wages are rapidly increasing in the East European countries. And because of the general economical catch up there ofc at a much higher rate than in Germany. Tesla's gigafactory is a long term investment with a very high automation rate.

3.
Tesla planned the R&D centre as well in Germany alongside that gigafactory. Germany has an excellent pool of outstanding engineers. From master craftman and vocational traing to engineering universities.

4.
When it would have to be an East European country, Czech Republic and Slovakia are better candidates than Poland.

 

[Hygro]

Also generally in manufacturing labor costs are a small percentage despite popular belief. Maybe significant enough to change industrial viability in some sectors but not a big change overall. And who knows, maybe productivity gains are that big with German labor.

 

[Hrothbern]

This labor intensive gigafactory of Ford in Detroit is history.
Took a decade to build that 1.0 by 1.5 mile factory.
Even during the Great Depression more than 100,000 employees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_River_Rouge_Complex

 

[Kyriakos]

Surely a Tesla factory should be in Serbia

 

[aelf]

You ever worked in a factory that is on permanent overtime?
It destroys families and is not well received.

Like a free market liberal would care.

 

[Commodore]

You ever worked in a factory that is on permanent overtime?
It destroys families and is not well received.

Yeah. I've quit jobs for no other reason than too much overtime. I don't mind it occasionally as the extra money is nice, but when the overtime is constant for months at a time, that's when I find another job.

 

[Broken_Erika]

Tesla's new Cybertruck smashed during demo

Tesla has unveiled its "Cybertruck" pickup truck, but not without an embarrassing moment on stage.

The truck's windows were smashed during a demonstration supposed to show how hard they were to break.

Mr Musk was heard to swear before joking: "Room for improvement."

The truck was unveiled in Hawthorne, California, where its stainless steel, angular design was greeted with cheers but also bemusement.

"People probably won’t get past the looks of it," said Jessica Caldwell, from vehicle marketplace Edmunds.

"It looks like a truck version of the DeLorean from Back To The Future."

The pickup market represents a significant opportunity for Tesla as it improves its battery technology, meaning carrying heavier loads over long distances is now practical.

According to Edmunds, large trucks have accounted for 14.4% of new vehicle sales up until October this year, compared to 12.6% in 2015. The vehicles have an average selling value of more than $50,000.

Tesla's truck will be sold starting at $39,900 (£30,900), a model which has a range of 250 miles (402km), while the most expensive model, at $69,900, will have a range of 500 miles. The truck will seat up to six adults and haul a payload of 3,500lbs, Tesla said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50513294

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Holy god that is so ugly

I want people to see this and feel shame

 

[Lillefix]

I want people to see this and feel shame

I'm sure there are people who like it, but I'm not sure these are the people who traditionally drive pickup trucks.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

What bugs me the most is the half-hexagon wheel wells. Yes it's a pickup truck and I think you're right about who would buy it.

 

[Broken_Erika]

It looks like something out of a 1990's computer game.
Available on Sega Saturn and Atari Jaguar.

 

[civvver]

Ha reminds me of mechwarrior 2 for some reason. But also the lego trucks you used to build with random blocks before they started coming out with specially molded pieces for everything.

 

[AmazonQueen]

It is incredibly ugly which will no doubt be a selling point for some.

 

[innonimatu]

The guy can't even rig his vapourware presentation competently.

 

[FriendlyFire]

Four arguments against Poland:

Five: Poland is going to be annexed by Germany anyways
Six: Poland cannot into space