The Olive Branch Thread

[Ziggy Stardust]

Not sarcastic, attempt at frivolous banter.

 

[Borachio]

Now, frivolous banter, I like. And I consider myself something of a dab hand at it.

It doesn't half seem to annoy some people though. (Which I like too, mostly. And I suppose I should apologize for it. That being the theme.)

 

[Save_Ferris]

Not sarcastic, attempt at frivolous banter.

Kind of the reason I'm on here, too.

 

[choxorn]

CivGeneral: I apologize to you for upsetting you many times in the past DYOS the past few years and being a grammar nazi, though most of the time it was unintentional.

 

[Quackers]

Probably gotta make some apologies.
Firstly, to Leoreth. Probably unfairly trolled you a little bit because of your Germanic background. Even when something is unrelated to you I kind of made a jibe at something German. I remember you took the bait a few times
Sorry about that.

Apologies to Lord Joakim as well. Probably went overboard in my criticism. No hard feelings.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

I remember being called a self-obsessed rageaholic recently and don't know what I did to deserve it....

 

[JohannaK]

I'm sorry Hobbs, for da Rage.

 

[Quackers]

I remember being called a self-obsessed rageaholic recently and don't know what I did to deserve it....

Think I may have used up my moral courage for this evening i'm afraid

 

[hobbsyoyo]

No, actually that wasn't you (JoanK) I was talking about in case you thought I was. It was Quackers I was talking about in my last post here.

But in any case I forgive you. I wasn't upset over it, I know where you're coming from.

Edit: Ok Quackers. I really didn't understand where that came from though. I wasn't mad about it, I was more like .

Cheers

 

[Angst]

Apologies to Lord Joakim as well. Probably went overboard in my criticism. No hard feelings.

Thanks man. It honestly means a lot - and back at you.

 

[peter grimes]

CivGeneral: I apologize to you for upsetting you many times in the past DYOS the past few years and being a grammar nazi, though most of the time it was unintentional.

Never, NEVER, NIE IN ALL DER ZEIT!!, apologize for grammar-Nazi-ism.

For otherwise, the terrorists have won.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Borachio started a trend with that one and should apologize to everyone for it.

 

[Borachio]

Oh my goodness. Of course, I apologize!!!!

But <nvm> is much much better than what it replaces, in my case, believe me. And probably should be my sole posting contribution, ever.

It may seem nasty, but it's the least worst option.

And I'll take this opportunity to apologize to Lord Joakim for having a go at him for something about a month ago. What on earth was it now? I'll have to try and track it down.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Oh my goodness. Of course, I apologize!!!!

But <nvm> is much much better than what it replaces, in my case, believe me. And probably should be my sole posting contribution, ever.

You can always report your own post and ask the moderators to delete it.

 

[Angst]

And I'll take this opportunity to apologize to Lord Joakim for having a go at him for something about a month ago. What on earth was it now? I'll have to try and track it down.

I have no idea. Were you ever actually rude to me? Was it about the morals thingy? I don't think so. Arts? Philosophy/science? Uhh...

 

[Borachio]

You can always report your own post and ask the moderators to delete it.

Never thought of that!

Still, wouldn't like to trouble them that often.

Here it is, Lord Joakim.

Spoiler :

I can only speak from what I've experienced, from the people I've talked to. The point presented to me by Quackers and Borachio wasn't that it's wrong to present anecdotes as a support for a claim (Which it is what you are going for right now, and it's valid criticism of my views, they merely didn't talk about that) it was that I was deattached from reality, snobbish, or that they mocked me for apparently mocking the poor for being unintelligent or clinging to traditions.

And to put it bluntly, I'm sorry they feel the need to read into what I type, reading between the lines or something. I type in a second language. They assume I'm making anything but a simple statement of what I've encountered, that I make claims hinting that I'm superior to someone. They claimed I look down on the poor. Which in itself is ******** because I am poor myself and probably won't escape from it, ever.

Anyways, I don't look down on the poor, and if you think I am, you are completely misunderstanding the point of my post. There's nothing wrong with not wanting open relationships to happen to you. Noone of the aforementioned lower class encounters beat me up when I shared my opinions; they merely went "that's not for me".



I'm sorry you are unable to read, or rather overread what I post. This is merely you being rude. You haven't encountered the people I have, and rap music was simply a part of the empoverished areas I grew up between. It's not because it's particularly bad, I never claimed that. Stop assuming things.

You seemed upset to me. I apologize for assuming things.

 

[kochman]

This now being in the Tavern, I will now join in.
I would like to apologize to many... too many... I have already apologized to some over PM.
Some names, for starters...
Hobbsyoyo - it's high time we bury the hatchet
Lord Joakim - We've already buried ours, but I genuinely like most of your posts
Farm Boy - We've buried our hatchet too, but I was especially a jerk to you one day
Cutlass - We buried the hatchet, but I feel like it got dug back out, I'm ready to let bygones be bygones
Adijica - We both get snarky from time to time, I feel like we're better than we once were, but I wanted to formalize that
Cheezy - Da Cheez... We've been finding more and more common ground recently, and stopping our mutual snark before it gets going to hard core, I think this is good. Sorry for past assault...
Traitorfish - I think we see the world completely differently, but that doesn't mean I think you're a jerk or anything... we just are from different places. Sorry for past offenses.
PeterGrimes - We've PMed and ironed out things, glad for it!

And, if you've been omitted, PM me, remind me of what I did (I have a terrible memory), and I'm sure we can talk it through.

And, for the record... GW16 is probably the most dog piled on person here, him and MisterCooper... I think a lot of people owe these two an apology. My unsolicited 2 cents anyhow.

 

[Traitorfish]

Traitorfish - I think we see the world completely differently, but that doesn't mean I think you're a jerk or anything... we just are from different places. Sorry for past offenses.

Likewise! As you say, different world-views are no reason for hostility.


On which note, I should also apologise to Winston Hughes and to Alassius (although I don't he's posted in a while), with who I've had some unnecessarily venomous exchanges in the past.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

@kochman - I have no problems whatsoever with your point of view. Believe it or not, but I have conservative friends both here and IRL. I love discussing issues with people and I don't dislike people for having a contrary opinion.

My problem with you, and why I feel the need to act like a puppy with his favorite chew toy everytime you post, is your abrasive posting style. You're rude, you attack people, you ignore points while trying to claim the high ground. Honestly, you come across as a bit of a jerk in almost every post.

I say that not because you're a jerk to me, (for I have clearly earned your ire and expect nothing less) but because I see you post nastily to everyone all the time. There is a thread going on right now where I have refrained from following on other people's comments because it's not my fight. But I seriously want to and this sort of thing causes me to lash out at you at every possibility.

When I first joined this site and came to OT, one of the first threads I posted in was a gun violence thread. You attacked me rather viciously and I started to respond in kind, then went back, deleted the response and apologized for being nasty. Someone else questioned why I would apologize when you were such a jerk to me. I didn't understand them; why wouldn't I try to be civil even if I've been wronged?

I understand them now. You have been nothing but uncivil to me since I joined and you are regularly uncivil to other members here. I realize that at this point I have gone out of my way to be so hostile and uncivil to you that there really can be no other way for us to communicate. We are alpha and omega, you are the positron to my electron.


I do not write these words to attack you, please do not misunderstand me. This is an honest, good-faith effort to explain why I can't just bury the hatchet. I cannot expect you to change your posting style, that is unreasonable. You cannot expect me to forgive your posting style, that is also unreasonable. I do not think either of us are truly capable of being a better person here and working to resolve this in a way that will hold for more than a few days.

I am open to your criticism and I pledge not to wreck this thread if you choose to post my faults and the terrible things I have done to you. There are many and I will not deny them or attack you for airing your grievances.

 

[kochman]

@kochman - I have no problems whatsoever with your point of view. Believe it or not, but I have conservative friends both here and IRL. I love discussing issues with people and I don't dislike people for having a contrary opinion.

My problem with you, and why I feel the need to act like a puppy with his favorite chew toy everytime you post, is your abrasive posting style. You're rude, you attack people, you ignore points while trying to claim the high ground. Honestly, you come across as a bit of a jerk in almost every post.

Dude, maybe no one has ever told you... But this isn't how you make amends with people. I don't need your personal diatribe... anyhow tl;insulting;dr

Forget I offered.