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The water is somehow on the inside of the insulated part. There's no visible cracks in the thing. How did the water get in there and how do I get it out?
 
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It's one of my lidded mugs. It's double-walled for insulation.
 
Did you have the mug cooled?

Air has a varying capacity to carry water. The hotter it is, the more water it can carry (to a certain max). So if you cooled the mug, there's a chance that water will precipitate, I guess, because the air in there is at its maximum water capacity.

Not a physicist here, but I think it makes sense.
 
ı have this half liter water bottle in the freezer . ı will take it with me to the city tomorrow . Not particularly necessary in late August , but it is all ice and ı wrap with a newspaper page and put it in a plastic bag and the lid is tightly closed and as mentioned it will be wet allover as the ice inside the bottle melts . Obviously not exactly relevant but heat can pass through stuff , ı guess .
 
Did you have the mug cooled?

Air has a varying capacity to carry water. The hotter it is, the more water it can carry (to a certain max). So if you cooled the mug, there's a chance that water will precipitate, I guess, because the air in there is at its maximum water capacity.

Not a physicist here, but I think it makes sense.

Yep that should be it. In a high end insulated flask you'd have a vacuum in between the walls. That vessel looks like a cheap one so I doubt the manufacturer went to the trouble to pull a vacuum between the walls. Just fill it with air does the trick as well, is less efficient and much cheaper. Naturally the air has some water in it, leading back to Js correct reasoning about the condensation.
 
There might just be a tiny leak between the two layers through which moisture could get in.
 
I'd say the seal was cracked in some part. Probably too small of a crack for you to easily pick out by eye. As it warms and cools air is drawn in. That accumulates droplets.

The same thing can happen in double pained windows if they get old or damaged.


How to Get Rid of Condensation in
Double-Pane Windows

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Double-pane windows: the basics
Unlike traditional windows, which are made of one pane of window glass, double-pane windows (or insulated windows) boast two panes, though it’s actually the space between them that does the work of keeping your home warm in the winter and cool in the summer.

The space between the panes is filled with air or dense gas (usually argon and krypton gases), whose molecules move slowly, keeping the air space at a consistent temperature. Consequently, the cold from outside moves more slowly through the window and into your home. Sometimes a desiccant material is added in the sealed space as well, as it can aid in moisture absorption, which prevents buildup of mold and mildew in the home.

Modern double-pane windows have two seals: the inner seal protects against moisture and corrosion while the outer seal holds the structure in place.

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What causes condensation on windows?
While insulated glass windows are known for working extremely well under a lot of strain (changes in temperature, inclement weather, etc.), age will eventually corrode the seals.

The heat from prolonged direct sun exposure can cause the panes to expand and contract, which eventually weakens the contact between the window glass and seal. Water retention in the frame, improper drainage, and saturation of the desiccant can also compromise the seal.

When window seals have been compromised, moisture sneaks into the airspace between the panes and condensation forms on the glass. You’ll notice a milky or foggy look.

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How to prevent condensation in double-pane windows
One way to prevent condensation is to increase indoor air circulation. Every time you cook or shower, remember to turn on the kitchen or bathroom fan for at least 15–20 minutes. Use ceiling fans as well, even in winter. Set them to rotate in a clockwise direction, which will push warm air downward.

It’s also important to keep humidity inside your home in check. If you notice a humidity problem in your home, try a dehumidifier, which takes in air, sucks out the moisture, and releases it back into your home.

You can prevent condensation by simply keeping the windows open when the weather allows, which will release the warm, moist air trapped in the house.

How to get rid of condensation in double-pane windows
Unfortunately there’s no easy DIY fix for condensation in your windows. Essentially, the moist air will need to be replaced with dry air, and for that you’re going to need to bring in the big guns— hire a professional.

That said, you do have two options. A professional can evaluate the right solution.

1. Replace the window (or pane)
Because the dry air between the panes has been compromised, replacement of the window may be necessary.

You can save a considerable amount of money by replacing a single window pane instead of the whole window, though in cases of rotting, it may be best to replace the whole thing. A professional can evaluate whether a single pane replacement will do the trick.

2. Professional cleaning
As a less-invasive alternative, a glass professional can clean the window. The process entails drilling small holes at the top and bottom corners, spraying a cleaning solution through the top hole, and sucking it out through the bottom. An expert will then seal the holes with vent plugs, allowing air, water, and vapor to escape the window cavity freely.
 
I think I got the mug at Dollarama. I have put it in the fridge sometimes when I wanted to keep a drink cool while I was out but not recently.
 
Anyone here ever road trip northeastern New York state?
In 2001 A friend and I did a side trip to the Cardiff Giant on a business trip to NE. It is in Cooperstown NY. We've been to the Vermont side of Lake Champlain (Burlington VT). The Adirondacks Mountains are popular as a hiking and camping destination.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiff_Giant
 
I was also in Cooperstown in 2001. Never heard of that giant fellow however. :D My main memory of the place is everything is overpriced, the food is awful, and parking is tricky.
 
I was also in Cooperstown in 2001. Never heard of that giant fellow however. :D My main memory of the place is everything is overpriced, the food is awful, and parking is tricky.
I think most people go there for baseball stuff.
 
I'd say the seal was cracked in some part. Probably too small of a crack for you to easily pick out by eye. As it warms and cools air is drawn in. That accumulates droplets.

The same thing can happen in double pained windows if they get old or damaged.

Long time ago I worked a week or so as temp labor in a company making double paned windows.
Part of the production process was filling the hollow alumin distance holders with dry silical gel balls just before these distance holders were used in the next step where they were sealed with silicon rubber into the raw double paned window.
(one pane on the table... distance holders at the edges on the pane... other pane on top... silicon on the outside of the distance holders also glueing the panes together)
I worked for that in a small room at 40 C with the air ofc completely dry. Two hours there and two hours other work to recover.

I think if you have not much money, you can as well refill partially with dried silica gel balls.

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I guess you can re-use the silica balls by putting them in a furnace at 200 C or so for a while to get the water out, whereby I would start a while at 90 C or so and then increase to above 100 C.

If I am not mistaken the same silica balls are also used in fluidised bed furnaces at much higher temperatures than 200 C.
 
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what the hell is going on in the United States? I saw a video of a truck with a big American flag running over a bunch of people and spraying something out the windows.
 
who's a traitor?
 
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