TT01: Beating Demigod

[TheOverseer714]

Yes, I can get started either tonight or tomorrow night. I wonder what Templar meant with his comment:

ok, just had a last glimpse on the game. checked one thing and... now i in fact see a chance that this will take until i´m back. you´ll see why soon...

 

[Bucephalus]

Yes, I can get started either tonight or tomorrow night. I wonder what Templar meant with his comment:

I can only assume that he is referring to the fact that France now has Rifles - I would remind him that so did General Custer.

 

[TheOverseer714]

I know what he meant now, and he is right that it may be an obstacle. Then again, it might just be a hiccup that can be overcome easily. The answer is the bane of AW variants, the dread 1 tile island. If we can get it in a peace deal, no problem, but with a busted rep, that could become a problem. I see it as a challenge that we can deal with.

 

[Bucephalus]

I know what he meant now, and he is right that it may be an obstacle. Then again, it might just be a hiccup that can be overcome easily. The answer is the bane of AW variants, the dread 1 tile island. If we can get it in a peace deal, no problem, but with a busted rep, that could become a problem. I see it as a challenge that we can deal with.

Oh, I see. Fortunately, this isn't an AW variant, so I don't foresee it being a problem. Our busted rep isn't an issue when negotiating peace - we could even get a tech for gpt (for example) if it was attached to a peace treaty.

 

[DWetzel]

Yes, I can get started either tonight or tomorrow night. I wonder what Templar meant with his comment:

Any luck with this?

 

[TheOverseer714]

Uhh yeah, I just realized I played it and forgot to post my results! Call it a duhhh moment that started a day or two ago. Sorry about that. Here is the turn-log:

Spoiler :

Pre-Flight: CivAssist 2, Word running. Open the save, look things over.
Load 2 Cavalry to send to South Island. Figure out DWetzel’s little conundrum to us…the French have a 1 tile Island, which will require Marines or am advantageous PT to capture. DoW the French, land the army and the other “pillage people”.
Founded Dordrecht 2 in the tundra near Zwolle 2. Finish moving workers and military units.

Civilian units:
Settlers 4
Workers 24
Slaves 102
Explorers 3

Military units:
Warriors 4
Archers 2
Swords 5
Knights 3
Cavalry 33
Swiss Mercs 27
MDIs 17
Crusaders 7
Armies 4, 1 Sword, 2 MDI, 1 Cavalry
Catapults 14
Trebuchets 5
Cannons 42, 8 captured.

Ships:
Galleons 6
Frigate 1

Unit stats
Total units 174
Units Allowed 248
Unit support 0 gpt.

Press enter=>

IBT: Incans finish owning the Americans, Abe sure was pathetic this game.
A Frigate sinks trying to kill our Galleon, otherwise Frances’ only moves are to surround our army, moving loads of troops to send out on boats, at least 2 Galleon Loads, actually blocking the Coal and Saltpeter.
Delftt 2 Worker=>Worker.
New Eindhoven Galleon=>Cannon
New Haarlem Cannon=>Cannon.
New Middleburg Frigate=>Worker.
New Delftt Worker=>Worker.
Breda 2 Worker=>Worker.

Turn 1, 860 AD: I Pillage some useless desert tiles, hopefully the French will vacate the Coal and Saltpeter. Add another cavalry to army. Continue railing.

IBT: Bad news indeed, French attack the army, taking 10hp. Apparently 3 defense on a mountain wasn’t enough. French privateers go 1-1 sinking 1 Galleon.
Rotterdam Cavalry=>Cavalry.
Leiden 2 Worker=>Worker.
Arnhem Marketplace=>Bank.
Stavangar Worker=>Worker.
Holwerd Worker=>Worker.
Odense Worker=>Worker.
Leiden Cavalry=>Cavalry.
Rotterdam 2 Worker=>Worker.

Turn 2, 870 AD: Explorer takes out another desert tile, will be captured next turn and that’s when our precious army dies, so much for pillaging. Founded Leerdam in the tundra near Zwolle 2. Keep railing.

IBT: Explorer captured, but the big news, they left the army alone!
No attacks, and they left the Coal and Saltpeter open.
New Hilversum Worker=>Worker.
Molde Worker=>Cannon.
Eindhoven Worker=>Worker.
Caughnawaga Worker=>Worker.
Breda Cavalry=>Cavalry.
New Den Helder Cannon=>Cannon.
New Harlingen Cannon=>Cannon.
The Hague 2 Cannon=>Cannon.
Den Helder 2 Worker=>Worker.
Harlingen 2 Worker=>Worker.

Turn 3, 880 AD: Pillage the Saltpeter with an explorer, bless you DW for bringing them along. Lower tech rate to 60%, Industrialization in 1 turn at +93gp. Hiilversum 2 Founded near Allegheny=>Worker. Keep railing.

IBT: No attacks, however our first landing is imminent.
Industrialization is ours, next is Electricity in 8 turns at +30gpt.
Pasargadae Heroic Epic=>Factory.
New Zwolle Worker=>Worker.
Mauch Chunk Worker=>Worker.
Utrecht Harbor=>.Frigate.
Delft Cavalry=>Cavalry.
Zwolle Settler=>Settler.
Odense Worker=>Worker.
Den Helder Aqueduct=>Courthouse.
I get the Iron Works notification, maybe we should?
Groningen Worker=>Worker.

Turn 4, 890 AD: Begin organizing our specialist farms by adding Z^ to the city name, which puts them all together at the bottom of the Domestic Advisor screen. Keep railing.

IBT: Army fends off one Cavalry attack. 4 Cavalry deposited on former Viking island.
New Gouda Worker=>Worker.
Lauwersoog 2 Worker=>Worker.

Turn 5, 900 AD: Kill the 4 Cavalry, losing 1 eMDI in the process.
Army comes off the mountain to pillage the Coal.
Roosendaal and Enschede founded=>Cannon.
Keep railing, strategic rail-net about 60% finished.

IBT: No attacks, Frigate tries to nip our army.
New Leerdam Courthouse=>Barracks.
Odense Worker=>Worker.
Oka Harbor=>Privateer.
New The Hague Galleon=>Privateer.
Haarlem 2 Worker=>Worker.
Enschede 2 Worker=>Worker.
Tilburg 2 Worker=>Worker.

Turn 6, 910 AD: Move army away from coast, pillaging as I go. I think the SM may have to be left behind soon, so I can really get pillaging.

IBT: Army survives a Longbow, I’m thinking the attacks are from NoAIPatrol being off, they aren’t concerted attacks, just sort of accidents.
2 MDI landed at Birka, 1 at Persepolis.
Oporto Settler=>Settler.
Rotterdam Cavalry=>Factory.
Lauwersoog Library=>Bank.
Odense Worker=>Worker.
New Utrecht Harbor=>Frigate.
New Groningen Galleon=>Cannon.
New Arnhem Worker=>Worker.
New Leiden Worker=>Worker.

Turn 7, 920 AD: Continue slowly burning a path toward Paris.
Redline and kill French MDIs, an eCav wins, netting us a leader, Jantszoon.
Make an empty army. Then an eMDI gives us another, Abel Tasman.
2 Empty armies may just win this faster. Rail-net 75% complete, Cavalry can now reach anywhere on the mainland in 1 turn.

IBT: Army survives a Cavalry attack.
Amsterdam Cavalry=>Factory.
Allegheny Galleo=>Frigate.
New Dordrecht Worker=>Worker.
Groningen Marketplace=>Library.
Zwolle 2 Worker=>Worker.
Gouda 2 Worker=>Worker.

Turn 8, 930 AD: More pillaging, more railing.

IBT: No attacks, but the French occupy prime pillaging tiles.
The irritating Frigate bombardments have begun.
Dariush Kabir Settler=>Settler.
Eindhoven Worker=>Worker.
Delft Cavalry=>Cavalry.
Breda Cavalry=>Cavalry.
Leiden Cavalry=>Cavalry.
Middleburg 2 Worker=>Worker.

Turn 9, 940 AD: More pillaging, more railing. Rail-net nearly complete, still a few towns not rail connected/ Too bad we’ll need Artillery and Infantry to do a proper invasion, this is getting kind of slow.

IBT: Army survives an Archer attack.
French land 4 Cavalry at Persepolis.
New Roosendaal Cannon=>Cannon.
Tilburg Barracks=>SM.
New Tilburg Cannon=>Cannon.

Turn 10, 950 AD: Redline and kill all 4 Cavalry, no leaders. Fortify army to heal, 4 hp missing makes it a fat target. Pillage French Iron.

Civilian units:
Settlers 0
Workers 49
Slaves 109
Explorers 2

Military units:
Warriors 4
Archers 2
Swords 5
Knights 3
Cavalry 42
Swiss Mercs 27
MDIs 16
Crusaders 7
Armies 6, 1 Sword, 2 MDI, 1 Cavalry, 2 empty.
Cannons 42, 8 captured.

Ships:
Galleons 9
Frigates 2

Unit stats
Total units 214
Units Allowed 272
Unit support 0 gpt.

Contacts: 7
Persia-Gone
Vikings-Gone
Portugal-Gone
Iroquois-Gone
France-War
America-Gone
Inca-Peace

Research
Electricity, 1 turns at +208 gpt

Sliders
40%/10%/50%

The pillaging went slower than expected, due to the army not being immune from attack. Only once was there a more than half-hearted attempt to kill it, and that came pretty close, dropping it down to 6hp. Otherwise, the rail-net is probably 95% complete and our specialist farms are getting in tune, we can soon get the Infantry and Artillery to finish things. A turn or five of 0% tech can get the money to upgrade the Cannons and SMs to make this war shorter. A downside is that the French are scattered around on multiple islands, so we'll need a real navy to kill them off. Anyway, looks like the fun is yet to come.

The save:

 

[DWetzel]

Looks like fun. Glad you enjoyed the explorers. I'll take a look a bit later tonight. (It's football season!)

 

[templar_x]

i´m back, holidays over... and i swear none of you was sitting on the rear seat of my car, travelling with me
"yeah. what's your excuse?" rutger hauer replied in blind fury when he was yelled at by another car driver whether he was blind...

so who´s next?

 

[DWetzel]

Um, good question.

I guess you are!

 

[TheOverseer714]

I know it's not me that was up, seeing that I played last. And the save was posted. No mea culpa here....

 

[templar_x]

ummm... no. i played before DWetzel. i am convinced you guys didn´t make a full turn since i went on vacation.

and definitely you really sucked on spamming this thread without me. good that i´m back!

i think Buce´s up.
where are you, mate? can´t you hear the horns of war yell?

 

[templar_x]

btw, i always feel afraid of americans who know latin... then i always start to hear the tune of that song in my head, where david bowie states exactly that...

 

[DWetzel]

I haven't seen Buce around in over a week. I could be wrong.

If I'm up, I don't think I could play until middle of next week.

 

[templar_x]

DWetzel, going from the original roster, you are. it would be me after you then.
in case i should find time before you i´ll let you know. not very likely though.

 

[Bucephalus]

Sorry for the absence, guys.

I needed some time-out to decide if I still want to continue playing SG's, recent events having reminded me why I quit in the first place. However, I gave my word to TT that we would bring this home for him, and I intend to honour that commitment.

I guess I'm up - I'll d/l the save and post some comments tomorrow.

 

[templar_x]

buce? i just thought i´ll jump in to see your post from, ummm, yesteryesteryester-morrow...

 

[Bucephalus]

Yeah, sorry, but I'm going to have to take a skip this round - I've gone down with a virus.

I'll try to take a look and post some thoughts before it's played.

 

[DWetzel]

Does that make it me then? If so, I can probably (I think, hopefully--is that uncertain enough?) play no later than Friday evening.

 

[ThinkTank]

Hey guys, good to see you have been moving the game forward! I suppose I can play a turnset in the weekend. So if you play on Friday DWetzel, I will take it after you. If you all agree fo course.

 

[DWetzel]

We haven't moved THAT far...

That works. I should be able to get it in.

Warning: heavy war is NOT one of my strong points. So if you have advice beforehand, speak freely.