2018 U.S election

[Oerdin]

The dems did well to overcome Republican gerrymandering essentially turning out 9% more votes for the house than Repubs. The Senate map was very diffocult for Dems this cycle defending a lot of red state senate seats. Sadly, Trump used the noise of the election results to fire Sessions and put in place a hyper partisan actor who stated his goal was to obstruct the Mueller investigation by cutting its budget to nothing.

This calls into question the basic rule of law in the U.S..

 

[Birdjaguar]

No. It may be a nice fantasy, but no. For good or bad, Trump's legacy will be coming for decades.

J

He will certainly be remembered for decades. His legacy is yet to be determined. What is Nixon's legacy?

 

[Ajidica]

What is Nixon's legacy?

The EPA and being a paranoid weirdo.
And the secret bombings of Cambodia, in that he allowed Kissinger to unleash his inner war-criminal.

 

[adcarrymaokai]

"Legacy"

 

[Birdjaguar]

The EPA and being a paranoid weirdo.
And the secret bombings of Cambodia, in that he allowed Kissinger to unleash his inner war-criminal.

Yeah those too, but didn't you leave something out?

 

[onejayhawk]

He will certainly be remembered for decades. His legacy is yet to be determined. What is Nixon's legacy?

Domestically, Supreme Court Justices Burger (conservatives are still cursing this one), Powell, Rhenquist, and Blackmun. Legislatively and by EO, the ERA (Equal Rights Amendment), Affirmative Action, ending the draft, the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) and a balanced national budget. He was also instumental in ending segregation and new anticrime laws. In foreign policy, he makes a short list for the best President in history--detente, opening China, nuclear disarmament, ended Vietnam, and began the process that led to the 1974 Egypt Israel accords. Nixon was a busy guy.

J

 

[Dachs]

Yeah those too, but didn't you leave something out?

 

[metalhead]

The dems did well to overcome Republican gerrymandering essentially turning out 9% more votes for the house than Repubs. The Senate map was very diffocult for Dems this cycle defending a lot of red state senate seats. Sadly, Trump used the noise of the election results to fire Sessions and put in place a hyper partisan actor who stated his goal was to obstruct the Mueller investigation by cutting its budget to nothing.

This calls into question the basic rule of law in the U.S..

Fortunately, conservatives are big fans of the rule of law, so they'll all vocally stand up and demand it be protected.

 

[Commodore]

So what happens, then? Is there going to be a by-election?

I think so. Which is why the local Republicans were still encouraging voters to vote for a dead guy. If they didn't, then the Democrat would have essentially run uncontested and won the seat. Now though, they will probably do an emergency election and since the district is solidly Republican, whoever the Republican candidate is will still win.

EDIT: Nevermind. Looks like the Republicans will appoint a new representative. Each state does it differently though. Some do emergency elections, some have the winning party appoint a new one, and some have the governor of the state appoint a new one.

 

[Commodore]

With the hospitalization of Justice Ginsburg (hope she makes a full recovery by the way), one has to wonder if the Democrats are starting to regret focusing all their effort on taking the House instead of trying harder to take the Senate. Because even though the chances of the Democrats taking the Senate were slim, there was still a chance and a Democrat-controlled Senate could have stopped Trump from possibly getting another Supreme Court pick.

 

[Broken_Erika]

Meanwhile; From a highly reputable news source
Democrats Win House

Democrats took back the House of Representatives in the 2018 midterm elections, providing a check on Republican policymaking and a rebuke to President Trump for the next two years. What do you think?

“A Democratic win? Sounds like another win for Trump!”
Jules Horne • Movie Set Factotum

“Democrats should be ashamed for continuing to divide America by winning elections.”
Henrietta Christensen • Saxophone Cleaner

“After the embarrassment they faced in the 2016 election, this was a much-needed win for polling firms.”
Charles Dalton • Vivisectionist

 

[warpus]

The EPA and being a paranoid weirdo.
And the secret bombings of Cambodia, in that he allowed Kissinger to unleash his inner war-criminal.

The only thing people outside of the U.S. know about Nixon is that he was a crook and tried to claim the opposite. We know this mainly due to pop culture references like the Simpsons

And China

Trump's legacy is already written in stone and can't be changed. It's not like he's suddenly going to grow a brain

 

[Takhisis]

Yeah, how smart do you think the average motorist is, at this point? The last five car jobs I've had the customers between them could not explain the basic concept of internal combustion. If you tell them "if a light comes on, just call OnStar" they think it's a feature. The good news is that not one of them would have the first clue how to fire up a woodchipper, so they're safe.

How handy are USians these days? I am a 100% throughbred city boy but I make my own shelves.

On the contrary Trump is a symptom of a rot which set in decades ago and which inflicts both parties albeit to vastly different degrees.

Definitely! Trump is the product, the epitome, not the origin or source.

Trump is the devil incarnate. Snowflakes directly sublimate into patricles that cause global warming

I cannot tell whether this is a typo or incredibly subtle trolling. Perhaps @Owen Glyndwr could clarify.

The Republican Party appoints.

The seat will be vacant until the county commissioners in his district appoint a replacement. (that's how it usually works; I had to look up who does the appointment) I don't know if the replacement serves the whole term, or if there's eventually another election.

I think so. Which is why the local Republicans were still encouraging voters to vote for a dead guy. If they didn't, then the Democrat would have essentially run uncontested and won the seat. Now though, they will probably do an emergency election and since the district is solidly Republican, whoever the Republican candidate is will still win.

EDIT: Nevermind. Looks like the Republicans will appoint a new representative. Each state does it differently though. Some do emergency elections, some have the winning party appoint a new one, and some have the governor of the state appoint a new one.

*facepalm* The whole situation is ridiculous. You don't even have the one electoral code to be applied uniformly by all states.

With the hospitalization of Justice Ginsburg (hope she makes a full recovery by the way), one has to wonder if the Democrats are starting to regret focusing all their effort on taking the House instead of trying harder to take the Senate. Because even though the chances of the Democrats taking the Senate were slim, there was still a chance and a Democrat-controlled Senate could have stopped Trump from possibly getting another Supreme Court pick.

I was thinking of that a couple days ago, even before anything happened to RBG, but you have to take what victories you can and the Democrats still managed to get more votes overall in the Senate races, didn't they?

 

[hobbsyoyo]

To your last - yes by quite a large margin.

 

[innonimatu]

It was mostly "democrat seats" being contested, was it not?

Anyway, I had never noticed, until reading these discussions, the role the senate there plays in appointing judges. It isn't merely for the Supreme Court but to all federal courts?

 

[Takhisis]

Which the Donald isn't actually doing, regardless of what he claims to be doing.

 

[Farm Boy]

How handy are USians these days? I am a 100% throughbred city boy but I make my own shelves.

I think he's making a California based argument. I mean, it caters right to my particular prejudices, but even I'm hackling. MetroCalifornia professional white people thing, maybe? I have a hard time believing the hispanic population would have been rendered so fundamentally inept. Dunno, maybe they've gotten richer since I was last paying attention?

It was mostly "democrat seats" being contested, was it not?

Yuppers. And I think California was Democrat vs Democrat, so almost 100% of the largest state's turnout was D, which throws the overall percentage not insignificantly.

the role the senate there plays

Federal courts, yup. Ratifies treaties at 2/3rds vote, too. The states thing isn't a joke. Much to the chagrin of the rich loud ones. But that doesn't seem to be a state-based phenomenon of life.

 

[onejayhawk]

To your last - yes by quite a large margin.

Of course, there was no Republican on the ballot in California.

Which the Donald isn't actually doing, regardless of what he claims to be doing.

He claims it, but only to his live audiences. It's a big crowd pleaser.

J

 

[Commodore]

*facepalm* The whole situation is ridiculous. You don't even have the one electoral code to be applied uniformly by all states.

Thank the 10th Amendment for that. The Constitution is largely silent on how state elections are to be held and the 10th Amendment says any power not specifically granted to the federal government goes to the states and/or the people. That means the states are largely allowed to write their own election laws as long as they aren't blatantly unconstitutional.

 

[cardgame]

Fine. March to your own band. I am still going with sub 2% is not rocking.

In truth, the Obama administration may have avoided a recession in 2015-2016. I am not sure the cost is worth the result.

J

So you'll admit Trump's economy is the opposite of rocking?

these also include union production worker wages, btw. Who Trump has "taken care of" by arbitrarily inflating the price of steel and other components used in American MFG.