2020 US Election (Part One)

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I dont see the likes piling up on your flames

Has nothing to do with piling up likes. It has to do with the stated recognition by many posters that your posts are usually idiotic or flame bait, one or the other, and not worth exploring to find out which. Most people ignore you, but I see no reason to give you the privilege of polluting the forum uncontested.
 
People were looking for a Trump beater.
Mara Gay: Why Southern Democrats Saved Biden
At the Lorraine Motel in Memphis, where Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated, things look much as they did a half-century ago.

The site is now home to the National Civil Rights Museum, a remarkable collection that includes a replica of a firebombed bus ridden by the Freedom Riders as they traveled through the South protesting segregation in 1961.

Inside the museum the other day, a woman sat down beside me and wiped away tears. “I’m sorry,” she said. “What gets me is, after all this time, look what’s happening right now.”

Southern Democrats — particularly black Democrats — are hoping to keep the history that surrounds them in the past.

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Representative Jim Clyburn of South Carolina explained this in visceral terms when he announced his support for Joe Biden late last month, an endorsement that began with Mr. Clyburn, 79, talking about the first time he was arrested protesting for civil rights decades ago. “When I sat in jail that day, I wondered whether we were doing the right thing, but I was never fearful for the future,” he said. “As I stand before you today I am fearful of the future of this country. I’m fearful for my daughters and their futures, and their children, and their children’s futures.”

Mr. Clyburn said he was sure Mr. Biden was the right choice. “I know Joe. We know Joe. But most importantly, Joe knows us,” he said. Three days later, Mr. Biden won a convincing victory in the South Carolina primary, launching him into his Super Tuesday triumph and the front-runner status he enjoys today. My friends in New York, many of them Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders supporters who see Mr. Biden as deeply uninspiring, were mystified. But after traveling through the South this past week though, I began to understand. Through Southern eyes, this election is not about policy or personality. It’s about something much darker.

Not long ago, these Americans lived under violent, anti-democratic governments. Now, many here say they see in President Trump and his supporters the same hostility and zeal for authoritarianism that marked life under Jim Crow.

For those who lived through the trauma of racial terrorism and segregation, or grew up in its long shadow, this history haunts the campaign trail. And Mr. Trump has summoned old ghosts.

“People are prideful of being racist again,” said Bobby Caradine, 47, who is black and has lived in Memphis all his life. “It’s right back out in the open.”

In Tennessee and Alabama, in Arkansas and Oklahoma and Mississippi, Democrats, black and white, told me they were united by a single, urgent goal: defeating Mr. Trump this November, with any candidate, and at any cost.

“There’s three things I want to happen,” Angela Watson, a 60-year-old black Democrat from Oklahoma City, told me at a campaign event there this week. “One, beat Trump. Two, beat Trump. And three, beat Trump.”

They were deeply skeptical that a democratic socialist like Mr. Sanders could unseat Mr. Trump. They liked Ms. Warren, but, burned by Hillary Clinton’s loss, were worried that too many of their fellow Americans wouldn’t vote for a woman.

Joe Biden is no Barack Obama. But he was somebody they knew. “He was with Obama for all those years,” Mr. Caradine said. “People are comfortable with him.” Faced with the prospect of their children losing the basic rights they won over many generations, these voters, as the old Chicago political saw goes, don’t want nobody that nobody sent.

Mr. Biden understands this. “If the Democrats want a nominee who’s a Democrat — A lifelong Democrat! A proud Democrat! An Obama-Biden Democrat! — then join us!” he told voters in South Carolina in his victory speech.

Despite enormous progress, poverty in this still largely rural region, for Southerners of every race, remains crushing.

Confederate flags proudly paid for by the sons of Confederate war veterans dot the highways.

Michael Bloomberg’s campaign office in Montgomery, Alabama faced a town square where human beings sold other human beings into slavery.

In Memphis last week, steps from the campaign trail, hundreds gathered across town for the 68th annual Mid-South Farm & Gin Show. Inside a massive convention hall, white Southerners mingled amid the giant steel claws of farm equipment and cardboard cutouts of Donald Trump and Mike Pence. At one booth, vendors sold a shirt that read, “Make Cotton Great Again.”

“The past is never dead,” as the Mississippi novelist William Faulkner wrote in “Requiem for a Nun.” “It’s not even past.”

Faulkner was on my mind when I picked up the keys to a rental car in Memphis, for the long drive to Selma, Ala. Along the way, I stopped for breakfast in Olive Branch, Miss., where I met a man named Dave Wright. His grandfather, Leonard Wright, was William Faulkner’s physician. “Faulkner wrote about Granddaddy. Granddaddy didn’t like what he said, but it was all true,” Mr. Wright told me. He stopped there.

On Sunday, I marched across Selma’s Edmund Pettus Bridge with thousands, an annual exercise in remembering that draws Americans from all walks of life. In 1965, police attacked civil rights protesters here in an event that came to be called Bloody Sunday.

This year, the Democratic presidential candidates joined. So did Bob Smith, an older black man, who stood at the edge of the crowds holding a sign. “I was here in 1965, pistol whipped and kicked by police,” it read.

When I asked him about it, Mr. Smith smiled. “Yeah, I was here all right. Got the crap kicked out of me, too!” he told me with an easy laugh.

The march began and the Edmund Pettus Bridge, a dull block of concrete named for a Confederate brigadier, was suddenly flooded with life. Choirs sent the sounds of gospel high into the thick Alabama air. Drummers walked the route alongside school groups, and church groups, and black sororities in their pink and green regalia. Parents carried young children on their shoulders, hoping to catch a glimpse of the presidential candidates. “This is better than Mardi Gras,” Sharon Holmes, of Pontiac, Mich., told me.

At the crest of the bridge, hundreds stood with their faces to the warm Southern sun, breathing it all in.

Together, they are determined to hold on to a country that was paid for 55 years ago in blood. In the South, as in the rest of America, that may be a hard thing to do.
 
Former New York mayor Mike Bloomberg has decided to form an independent expenditure campaign that will absorb hundreds of his presidential campaign staffers in six swing states to work to elect the Democratic nominee this fall.

The group, with a name that is still undisclosed because its trademark application is in process, would also be a vehicle for Bloomberg to spend money on advertising to attack President Trump and support the Democratic nominee, according to a person familiar with the discussions, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.

The moves come as Bloomberg has continued to taunt Trump on social media, releasing a video Thursday on Twitter that cut together a number of clips in a way meant to mock Trump’s claims that he would win the White House, hold the Senate and take back the U.S. House.

We are not going anywhere. We will haunt your dreams. We are in your head,” the video declares by splicing together clips from movies, television shows and music videos. “Starting today, and every day after that, every morning, every night, we will be here watching you, always watching, making sure everyone one knows what a disaster you are.”
The new group, operating with the same potentially limitless bankroll that funded Bloomberg’s campaign, could play a major role in shaping the race this fall. Bloomberg, who is worth more than $50 billion, also has not ruled out using the group to spend money to support former vice president Joe Biden during his primary fight against Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). Bloomberg dropped out of the race Wednesday.

“I’ve always believed that defeating Donald Trump starts with uniting behind the candidate with the best shot to do it,” Bloomberg said Wednesday after a disappointing result in the Super Tuesday primaries. “After yesterday’s vote, it is clear that candidate is my friend and a great American, Joe Biden.”

The promise of help has been welcomed by Biden, but advisers to Sanders have said they do not want any general election assistance from Bloomberg if the Vermont senator wins the nomination.

Bloomberg’s advisers have identified Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Florida and North Carolina as the six states that will decide the electoral college winner this year. Staffers in each of those states have signed contracts through November to work on the effort.

The Bloomberg operation could provide a major backstop to efforts by the Democratic National Committee and the remaining presidential campaigns, which have dramatically trailed the Republican National Committee and the Trump reelection campaign in both fundraising and preparation for a general election.


Bloomberg also will continue to fund Hawkfish, a data effort to support Democratic campaigns. The data operation has been organized as a for-profit campaign vendor to Bloomberg’s other operations, the person familiar with the discussions said.

Hawkfish has signed a long-term lease in the same Times Square building that houses Bloomberg’s presidential campaign. The campaign, by contrast, plans to wind down its lease at the property.

The Bloomberg campaign offices and staffs that remain in other states — he has 12 offices open in Ohio, for example — will be closed in the coming weeks. Staffers will be offered the chance to apply to do field work in the targeted general election states.

Because of campaign finance rules, Bloomberg’s aides have concluded that they cannot simply tell campaign employees to work directly for Biden. “The folks in those states have been told that they can apply for spots in the battleground,” said the person familiar with the plans.

At its peak, Bloomberg’s campaign boasted a staff of more than 2,100, including about 1,800 in states.
 
Bloomberg is an ass. He spent all that money and bombarded us with ads and he only managed to win American Samoa. A territory that doesn't even get to vote in the general election.
 
Bloomberg is an ass. He spent all that money and bombarded us with ads and he only managed to win American Samoa. A territory that doesn't even get to vote in the general election.
And in the process he ran hundreds of anti Trump ads all across the country. He will continue to do so. He committed to spending half a billion dollars to defeat Trump. and you are complaining?
 
And in the process he ran hundreds of anti Trump ads all across the country. He will continue to do so. He committed to spending half a billion dollars to defeat Trump. and you are complaining?

I mean he's an ass for thinking he could just buy an election. I think he truly believed he could win just by throwing enough money at the election.
 
I mean he's an ass for thinking he could just buy an election. I think he truly believed he could win just by throwing enough money at the election.

Agreed, on both parts. But to be fair, a lot of people got spooked looking at his polling numbers rising in the Super Tuesday states. And really, what if Bloomberg hadn't gotten curbstomped at the first debate he was at, and what if Clyburn had come out and stomped on Biden prior to the SC primary and (for some absurd reason, work with me here) endorsed Bloomberg instead? Admittedly they're both sort of high-probability events, rather than unexpected meteors out of the blue, but still.
 
I mean he's an ass for thinking he could just buy an election. I think he truly believed he could win just by throwing enough money at the election.

Yeah I think he missed the boat on the attitude towards money.

I think Bernie has outspent Biden. Money helps but it's not everything, Hilary outspent Trump, here National outspent Labour 3-1 and lost.

Hopefully Sanders legacy is to start getting big money out of politics or minimise it at least.
 
I mean he's an ass for thinking he could just buy an election. I think he truly believed he could win just by throwing enough money at the election.
For him the money was just "disposable income"; that doesn't make him an ass, naive maybe. Or maybe he was trying to see if such a campaign style would work and if it did he'd stay in the headlines. If not, oh well, chump change well spent against Trump.
 
I just want to know why his campaign worked in American Samoa? Does he have some other ties there that would make him more popular than the other candidates?
 
Part of Bloomberg's problem was his personality. I figure if Oprah had done the same thing and spent half a billion she would be the nominee.
 
I just want to know why his campaign worked in American Samoa? Does he have some other ties there that would make him more popular than the other candidates?
I haven't a clue, unless its military base personnel.
 
I just want to know why his campaign worked in American Samoa? Does he have some other ties there that would make him more popular than the other candidates?

Maybe his ads screened their as part of his media blitz.

Polynesians also tend to vote a bit more conservative for left wingers and Bloomberg was the most right out of the Dems.

Gay marriage for example doesn't go down that well in the islands.
 
Maybe his ads screened their as part of his media blitz.

Polynesians also tend to vote a bit more conservative for left wingers and Bloomberg was the most right out of the Dems.

Gay marriage for example doesn't go down that well in the islands.

I still want to know why they didn't go (more) for Tulsi Gabbard, who was born there and her father is Samoan.
 
To give the guy credit, his ads were strong. He had some of the best poli-ops in the game working for him and making those. They hit hard.
 
I still want to know why they didn't go (more) for Tulsi Gabbard, who was born there and her father is Samoan.

I know that she had no campaign there. She could barely afford to campaign on her own block.
 
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