[RD] Ask a Schizoaffective.

I'm starting a new group therapy program this upcoming Monday, called "work returns" it's less intensive at 10 hours a week rather than 30, but is mostly just focused on helping people with issues finding (and maintaining) jobs.
 
Thats great but you really need to seriously consider individual psychotherapy....
 
Yeah, I already am seeing one.
 
I hope things work out for you. I was hospitalized earlier this year. I have anxiety issues and substance abuse.

I basically feel panicked during the day but sometimes it’s not as bad. I haven’t had success with Iraqi doctors and am thinking of trying online with therapists in USA. I’m thinking it shouldn’t be normal to be freaked out and pacing around nervously every morning.
 
Jesus. I've approached countless women, both offline and in person, and every single one stopped talking to me quickly because I'm too weird/socially awkward. One even asked if I'm on the (autism) spectrum.

Jesus Christ, I hate this ****. Should I just go gay? :cry:
 
Jesus. I've approached countless women, both offline and in person, and every single one stopped talking to me quickly because I'm too weird/socially awkward. One even asked if I'm on the (autism) spectrum.

Jesus Christ, I hate this ****. Should I just go gay? :cry:
Lol, if men could just "go gay" to avoid the hassle of attracting women there would be like five straight guys left.
 
Sorry if that came out in a different way than how I intended, it was hyperbole.
 
Jesus. I've approached countless women, both offline and in person, and every single one stopped talking to me quickly because I'm too weird/socially awkward. One even asked if I'm on the (autism) spectrum.

Jesus Christ, I hate this ****. Should I just go gay? :cry:
You’re pretty normal on CFC. What makes in person different you think?
 
No idea. Women in particular are repulsed by me.
 
No idea. Women in particular are repulsed by me.
Is it possible you schizoaffectation (or even just as anyone, for that matter) is causing you to read into the negative signals further than positive ones?

I find when talking to both men and women I receive a pretty full range of signals as people’s emotions are bouncing around at least a little and bad ones bubble through here and there. If I took those too seriously my attention would move to that and the vibe on my end would go to there and then more of my vibe is negative and then the whole thing could cascade negative.

But if it’s not that it’s not that.
 
Probably you come off needy. Women like power and dominance. If you come off like you want something but don't have something they want in return they will flee from you like a vagrant.
No.
 
While I am the last person to have any idea how to attract women, appearing super-needy must rank pretty low on the "Things Women Are Attracted To" scale.
 
While I am the last person to have any idea how to attract women, appearing super-needy must rank pretty low on the "Things Women Are Attracted To" scale.
I was more replying to his "power and dominance" comment ... that's a major turnoff. A man who is flakey is very unattractive, but that doesn't mean go a complete 180. Know what you want in life, and be happy with who you are ... and you will absolutely ooze attractiveness.
 
I have a revelation I would to share about my growth from when I was 18, to now, 10 years later, 28.

I will be using the "red pill" metaphor. For the purpose of this discussion, it has nothing to do with pick up artistry and/or older men who want to date college-aged girls who are half their age.

Since I was pretty young, maybe my Sophomore year of high school, I decided I was going to become someone rich, powerful, famous, successful, important. As a result of this, I was very arrogant, pretentious, entitled. As I look back at that period of time, I can understand why women weren't attracted to me, but I have a hard time now that I have changed so much.

When I was 19 I went to NAMI meetings (national alliance of mental illness), and some of the people there were legitimately crazy. I was by far the youngest guy as most of them were in the forties, fifties, and sixties. The youngest guy besides me was in his 30's.

I had a recollection recently about one of the guys there that in his 40's. He was going on and on about how he is running for President and he thinks he has a legitimate chance to win (he is a nobody, just like me).

Almost 10 years later, I look at this and I'm thinking, how can this guy be so out of touch? And I remember I was like that too, for a long time. The difference I changed fundamentally as a human being before my 30's birthday and I guess he didn't. I'm a genuinely better person than I was.

That said, I obviously have a hell of a long way to go.

edit: what this has to do with "the red pill" is I was living in a fantasy dreamland, like so many people with a chronic mental illness do. I took the red pill and saw myself at face value for who I really am (at least I would like to think so) but many of us don't.
 
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