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Well, it looks like we have our Trump equivalent. Except much, much better.
Because We Have a Problem: 2016 Forcasting List
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Ajidica
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Again Dommy, you really need to stop calling the overwhelming majority of Americans stupid sheeple. You don't win elections by making people dislike you.
You win an election by getting the largest number of voting individuals to view you as less bad than the other guy. That isn't easily done when complaining against what most people see as a necessary federal action needed to uphold the constitution and enforce basic human dignity through the rule of law.
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Whenever he figured that'd be a good way to promoted his tour.
Moderator Action: To repeat ourselves.
Tangentially related fact: I just realized the last time the Republicans won a presidential election without a Nixon or a Bush on the ticket was 1928. Consider my mind blown.
More related fact: Rick Perry isn't running for governor in 2014, which substantially increases the chances he is running for presidency again (or about to get a show on Fox News). I'm pretty surprised by the move, but it looks like he is stepping aside to Abbott who is both a friend of Perry's and raising funds for a gubernatorial bid himself.
More related fact: Rick Perry isn't running for governor in 2014, which substantially increases the chances he is running for presidency again (or about to get a show on Fox News). I'm pretty surprised by the move, but it looks like he is stepping aside to Abbott who is both a friend of Perry's and raising funds for a gubernatorial bid himself.
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It would be easy enough for Jeb Bush to be the VP candidate on the ticket if they think there is some sort of edge by having a Bush. I doubt if he will get the main voting nomination. They've had some very dubious characters as the VP, such as Dick Cheney and Dan Quayle. It's not that much of a stretch. In many ways, Jeb Bush is a stronger candidate than either of those two.
Perry came off as a serious lightweight in the last election. I don't see him doing better. He's a political midget, really.
I think one of the reasons for this is because the media really built him up before he entered and then he failed to meet expectations (analog to Fred Thompson in the 2008 race). If he spends the next couple years buffing up on foreign policy, national security, etc. and he reminds voters he was the out-front guy on immigration in 2012, I could see him coming from behind and becoming a respectable candidate because he would be exceeding very-low expectations rather than failing to meet average ones.
There's an outside chance he's relevant. Otherwise, a likely repeat flop.
But man, we would have so much fun with a Biden v. Perry 2016 race...
He has the time to do so if he is so inclined. We'll see what happens. I think if he ends up with a show he's finished, if he's doing the conservative speaking circuit and releasing a book about the perilous direction of Ah'murika in 2015 he might be trying for a second run at the presidency. Leaving him in my third tier either way.
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I think what people miss about the age debate concerning Hillary is that women don't age as well as men do. She might be looking a little haggard by 2016 and that kind of superficial crap matters.
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The scandals in the Virginia leadership seem to be getting worse and worse--it's gone from watches, catered dinners at weddings, Ferrari rides, and illegitimate purchases on the taxpayer's dime to a hundred thousand dollars of what looks like outright corruption.
And to think McDonnell was on Romney's short list for VP, imagine if this had broken while he was in office. It's a shame too for the Republicans, not just for the slew of scandals that could ruin the local brand but because McDonnell had some potential as a good candidate. He's a swing-state governor, was well-respected by the state and national party, solid conservative credentials, and a decent speaker.
Given that South Carolina Republicans just elected into Congress the GOP equivalent of John Edwards and that Louisiana Republicans keep re-electing that guy who sees prostitutes for his diaper fetish, I'm not sure scandal is an obstacle.
I think sex scandals aren't the same obstacle they were since the Clinton era (Gary Hart withdrew from the 1988 primaries because of an affair), but the same rumors in 1992 didn't stop Clinton.
A pattern of ruthless and potentially criminal corruption and ethics violations is another thing. Ted Stevens lost his reelection over this kind of stuff.
A pattern of ruthless and potentially criminal corruption and ethics violations is another thing. Ted Stevens lost his reelection over this kind of stuff.
There wasn't a photo of Clinton with Gennifer Flowers on his lap while he was wearing a shirt that said "Monkey Business Crew." It wasn't rumors that could be denied, it was confirmed fact.
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