Because We Have a Problem: 2016 Forcasting List

[bhsup]

I hadn't seen that photo before, and the shirt slogan really doesn't help his case.

What's even more stupid on his part is that he'd dared the press to follow him and find anything dirty on him because he swore he was clean as a whistle. So even if the fact that he was having an affair hadn't been enough, would you really want a President so inept as to not be capable of concealing an affair?? Also bear in mind that this occurred during the campaign. It wasn't something that was dug up out of his past.

Was Monkey Business Crew the ashleymadison.com of it's day or something?

Also, if your own personal popularity is high enough you can survive almost anything. Ahnuld did, in a pretty blue state.

IIRC it was the name of the boat his friend had that he was on at the time the picture was taken.

Btw, I do not think any politician could survive a proven extra-marital affair during a Presidential race in America with pictures/proof.

 

[Antilogic]

What's even more stupid on his part is that he'd dared the press to follow him and find anything dirty on him because he swore he was clean as a whistle. So even if the fact that he was having an affair hadn't been enough, would you really want a President so inept as to not be capable of concealing an affair?? Also bear in mind that this occurred during the campaign. It wasn't something that was dug up out of his past.

That's pretty arrogant and stupid. No wonder he was toast.



In other news, Rick Perry is now going to Israel to speak about education and foreign policy. But seriously, he hasn't made a decision on running for the White House yet.

I don't think Rick Perry was a guy we were expecting when this thread started months ago. The article notes that Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, and Ted Cruz have traveled to Israel as well.

 

[danjuno]

How have I missed this thread?

As a native of MD, I'm excited for O' Malley, but his DNC speech was unimpressive. That said, he does about everything the OP mentioned of Cuomo, save for his approval ratings, but this is due to the fact that Marylanders rarely get excited about their politicians in national races, thanks to Spiro (or, as he called himself before going national, Ted) Agnew. Also, need I mention StateStat?

 

[Antilogic]

Welcome to the club of people with problems.

The problem with the Democratic side is that Hillary basically has the support of an incumbent president/vice-president. It's keeping the entire process on the Dem side locked up until she decides on what she is doing, including the scheduling of primaries and caucuses (which is where the real action usually is right now).

 

[ZeletDude]

I am still rooting for Gillibrand

 

[Antilogic]

She'll have a tough time getting the nomination given Cuomo is clearly interested and also from New York (and so is the front-runner Clinton), but this is coming from the clown who is betting on freakin' Walker and he hasn't even won his 2014 gubernatorial election yet, and also will have a local struggle with Paul Ryan if he runs.

I think the Democrats are going to want a woman either at the top of the ticket or in the #2 spot, and with Gillibrand in the top spot she will have her pick of any number of eligible swing-state bachelors dudes Democratic Governors and Senators. Alternately, she's probably an instant short-list VP candidate if she doesn't get the nomination herself.

 

[Miles Teg]

Well Schweitzer's officially bowed out of the Montana Senate race. The general consensus seems to be that the polls that made him look like a shoo-in really were too good to be true, and he decided not to contest it.

On the one hand, it's hard to fault his political calculus. On the other, I get the impression that Baucus retired mostly because Schweitzer was privately threatening to primary him, and I'm guessing that a select group of people are going to blame him for losing a Senate seat (and frankly, I'd agree).

 

[ZeletDude]

She'll have a tough time getting the nomination given Cuomo is clearly interested and also from New York (and so is the front-runner Clinton), but this is coming from the clown who is betting on freakin' Walker and he hasn't even won his 2014 gubernatorial election yet, and also will have a local struggle with Paul Ryan if he runs.

I think the Democrats are going to want a woman either at the top of the ticket or in the #2 spot, and with Gillibrand in the top spot she will have her pick of any number of eligible swing-state bachelors dudes Democratic Governors and Senators. Alternately, she's probably an instant short-list VP candidate if she doesn't get the nomination herself.

Yeah she won't run, if she is VP nominee she becomes an instant front runner in 2020/2024 (depending on who wins in 2016). If Clinton runs the nomination is definitely her's, I am sure if the presidency is (it's rare to have 12 years of same party control in the presidency, but not unprecedented -- Reagan and bush 41)

Well Schweitzer's officially bowed out of the Montana Senate race. The general consensus seems to be that the polls that made him look like a shoo-in really were too good to be true, and he decided not to contest it.

On the one hand, it's hard to fault his political calculus. On the other, I get the impression that Baucus retired mostly because Schweitzer was privately threatening to primary him, and I'm guessing that a select group of people are going to blame him for losing a Senate seat (and frankly, I'd agree).

I like Schweitzer so if that's true he instantly drops off my like list. Holding Montana (among other states) is essential to a democratic majority.

 

[Cutlass]

"Religious freedom does not mean freedom from religion," Perry declared at the State Capitol building in Austin before signing HB 308, which allows public schools to display scenes and symbols of "traditional winter holidays."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/14/rick-perry-freedom-from-religion_n_3441187.html

 

[Ajidica]

display scenes and symbols of "traditional winter holidays."

I, for one, want to see a school celebrate a traditional Roman Solstice, complete with orgies and feasting.

 

[Antilogic]

(In my best Justice League narrator voice)

Meanwhile, in the Hall of Democrats!

...

“I am not running for president in 2016,” Patrick told reporters at UMass Boston, according to a transcript of his comments provided by his office.

“I’m going to finish this second term, I’m going to go back into the private sector. And as Diane, my wife says, pay some attention to our family and friends while they are still willing have us pay some attention,” he said.

Patrick said that Walsh, a close political adviser, indicated that he wanted the governor to make a bid for the White House. But, Patrick said, “he doesn’t get to make that decision.”

 

[downtown]

I know nobody is paying attention, but stuff like this probably won't help Rand Paul politically

http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/...rate-staffer-talks-about-the-southern-avenger

 

[Azale]

I sincerely hope he does not run. Right now the Democrat field is mostly devoid of clowns and frauds, I would like to keep it that way.

EDIT: Talking about Patrick obv.

 

[Antilogic]

I know nobody is paying attention, but stuff like this probably won't help Rand Paul politically

http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/...rate-staffer-talks-about-the-southern-avenger

Looks like that backfired on Hunter pretty badly. The "not rasist but #1 amongst rasists" mantle is a hard thing to work with in the modern political atmosphere, and it's not like the South has a lot of caucus states where Paul could benefit from this association (although it has been disturbingly hard to track down a nice map showing this).

I sincerely hope he does not run. Right now the Democrat field is mostly devoid of clowns and frauds, I would like to keep it that way.

EDIT: Talking about Patrick obv.

Well, the Democratic field is basically Hillary Clinton. Then there's a massive void, then a bunch of ankle biters who are banking on Clinton not running.



EDIT: Here's some more of Biden pining for the White House, interesting part is in the quote:

...
But about 2016: "The judgment I'll make is, first of all, am I still as full of as much energy as I have now—do I feel this?" he said. "Number two, do I think I'm the best person in the position to move the ball? And, you know, we'll see where the hell I am.

"And by the way, if you come in the office, I have two portraits hanging—one of Jefferson, one of Adams. Both vice presidents who became presidents." He said he likes to look at their very satisfied expressions. "I joke to myself, I wonder what their portraits looked like when they were vice presidents."
...

 

[Cryptic_Snow]

Recent PPP polling out of Virginia

Jeb Bush 16% (+2%)
Chris Christie 16% (+1%)
Rand Paul 15% (+5%)
Marco Rubio 12% (-5%)
Paul Ryan 11% (+3%)
Ted Cruz 9% (+1%)
Bob McDonnell 8% (-4%)
Bobby Jindal 4% (+1%)
Rick Santorum 2%

 

[Antilogic]

Bush and Christie in a tie for first? That's actually a really strong showing for Bush, especially given his lower profile recently. The naive guess would be that Rubio's fall is correlated to the uncertain status of the immigration bill and the Republican base's rejection of it, but that doesn't square well with Bush's performance since he was also in favor of reform before he was against it.

I'm shocked they even included Bobbert MacDonnelly. He's done.

 

[madviking]

Uh Antilogic he's at 8%.

 

[Antilogic]

Uh Antilogic he's at 8%.

The runner-up from last year is at 2%, and he's arguably in the second tier (first tier being the 15%+ group, second tier 8-12%).

 

[madviking]

Whoops I accidentally misread your comment. Disregard my comment.

Yea, and it's Virginia; homestate advantage.

 

[JollyRoger]

Isn't Virginia where the clown car campaigns prove they do not have the skills needed to get on the ballot?