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GhostWriter16
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I'll probably join to vote for Rand, but am not an ideological Republican and I haven't joined yet so I can respond to this.
Cruz strikes me as wishy-washy. He already voted to give medical data to the Feds, and to my understanding, he's a bit of a hawk as well. Definitely not a John Mccain or Lindsey Graham, but I don't really trust him. I'd probably root for him over the Democrat but I'd probably still vote for the LP or CP candidate.
Ted Cruz isn't really libertarian enough. Rand Paul is at least close enough. But then, my standards are pretty high. I'd say RPF is about 50/50 on him....
GhostWriter16
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If Cruz is really on team liberty, even with a few idiosyncracies, he will endorse Rand Paul. Rand is clearly the better, purer candidate. And he's already made quite clear that he intends to run. If he's not a wolf in sheep's clothing, he'll back Rand.
Ted Cruz is a nut who will further make a mockery of the Republican primary process if he attempts a run for Pres. Republicans should learn from their primary process mistake from last time around and streamline. No more endless debates with fringe candidates forcing the one or two guys who have a shot into a crazy-off with everyone else. "I want a fence!" "No, I want a fence, but it will be higher and with razor wire!" "Well I want a fence with sharks with laser beams on their heads! Laser beams!"
The first part isn't true, since his mom was a US citizen. The second part is.
Good thing he isn't going for the Libertarian Party nomination!
Yeah, I think this is pretty fair. Ted Cruz isn't stupid like say, Santorum was, but he's a similar kind of candidate. He's also apparently a HUUUUGE a-hole that has alienated lots of Republicans in the Senate. He's somebody that would have virtually no appeal outside of the hardcore activist/loony bin type.
I hope Ted "Carnival" Cruz runs and gets some early traction.
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Damn it, now I just want him to run for the puns. CARNIVAL CRUZ SINKS IN POLLS, STAFFERS JUMP SHIP.
Don't forget that the last two Democratic Presidents were basically unknown on the national stage when they threw their hats into the ring. IT may well be someone nobody would think of until the 3rd or 4th primary and then it''s "who is this guy??"
And they were both southern governors...
That said, don't forget that Biden flat out said it's not the last time his name will be on a ballot when he was asked on election day.
Ajidica
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Yet in the end Republican voters will have to content themselves with something nobody wants. In this case, particularly evil flesh-eating sea bass.
GhostWriter16
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No, I know, I was just giving my opinion. Granted, if it was someone like, say, Rick Santorum I wouldn't have answered at all (Or if at all, maybe with a one word answer like "Yuck"). However, when it comes to Cruz... some people in the liberty movement actually do like him. I don't. Keep in mind that plenty of libertarians and other conservative liberty movement people work in the GOP even though their values are very different from the GOP establishment. Rand Paul has little in common with the rest of the GOP, or the current values of the GOP, but there are plenty of Republicans who are going to vote for him.
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I think that's generally outside the purview of this thread. We're focused more on who's likely to run and how they're likely to perform. Your personal views are well outside the American mainstream, and thus shouldn't be a focus here.
RobAnybody
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Yes, that means that anyone you've never heard of right now is an automatic shoo-in for the Presidency. Because it happened before means it will always happen again.
Apparently 548,256,674 people you've never heard of are locks to win.
Have we seen her long form birth certificate yet for verification?
GhostWriter16
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Obama was indeed born in the US... that's about the only true thing that he told us...
Seriously, why are you still mocking the birther crap? That was so two years ago
Seriously, why are you still mocking the birther crap? That was so two years ago
Obama was indeed born in the US... that's about the only true thing that he told us...
Seriously, why are you still mocking the birther crap? That was so two years ago
Last time I checked the docket, there were still birthers losing lawsuits. Those leading the investigation for Sheriff Joe are still promising to prove that the long form birth certificate was a forgery.
Color me skeptical as to Walker's chances in the general, even in Wisconsin. He was able to hold on in Wisconsin not by running on his policies, but by running against the idea of the recall itself. And I think if a Democratic candidate was to put a Midwesterner or Westerner on the ticket, they might be able to hold his gains in that area. We'd have to look at a bunch of crosstabs polling to see how that plays out, not sure we have enough data to do so at the moment.
But say he does put Wisconsin in serious play. I don't think his popularity would carry to the Atlantic coast, and maybe not even as far as Pennsylvania. Walker might still be going for Bush + Wisconsin.
... what does this even mean? What are voters supposed to take away from this?
I'm not too impressed with him. As far as electoral politics goes, I think he would struggle to carry the Midwestern and Northeastern swing states, but his style would probably rev up donors and volunteers in the South. Would stand a fair or even good chance of carrying Florida and North Carolina, and losing the other swing states and the election.
There was a good 538 article comparing the trends in the Republican and Democrat nomination process. Usually, the Democratic candidate is someone who isn't doing well in the polls 2-3 years ahead of the election, or is otherwise a virtual unknown. The Republican candidate is usually the person who averages out to being in first or second place in the years leading up to the election. I spoilered the chart below in case people don't want to read the article (I highly recommend reading it, though):
Spoiler :
I am more bullish on Biden running than Clinton just based on those public statements. He's been involved in a lot of negotiations with Congress, so I think if the current administration pulls out some legislative victories and the economy is decent enough, Biden will run as a "4 more years!"-type candidate.
"The left wants: The government to explode; to pay everyone; to hire everyone; they believe that money grows on trees; the earth is flat; the industrial age, factory-style government is a cool new thing; debts don't have to be repaid; people of faith are ignorant and uneducated; unborn babies don't matter; pornography is fine; traditional marriage is discriminatory; 32 oz. sodas are evil; red meat should be rationed..."
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Gov. Bobby Jindal
Seems Jindal has given in to being a leader of the Party of Stupid.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/06/18/bobby_jindal_and_money.html
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Gov. Bobby Jindal
Seems Jindal has given in to being a leader of the Party of Stupid.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/06/18/bobby_jindal_and_money.html
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