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Discussion in 'Civ4 - SDK/Python' started by rkyte, Nov 13, 2005.

  1. WildWeazel

    WildWeazel -- Turns to Completion

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    If it does end up getting expensive, I think there would be enough people willing to donate a few bucks to keep it going.
     
  2. rkyte

    rkyte Chieftain

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    It looks like the dns has propogated so later tonight I'll get everything running off of http://civ4wiki.com/

    I messed up by installing the wiki in a folder called civ4wiki. It's overlapping the folder where the new domain is pointing, which is why http://civ4wiki.com/ doesn't work. I'll probably have to take the site down for a few minutes to get everything right.

    But again, that's later tonight when I get home from work.

    About ads and such, I'll have to wait and see what the bandwidth requirements will be like. So far you guys have used a whopping 21.46 MB. We'll cross that bridge when we get there.

    Also, if anyone with more talent that I have wants to put together some site graphics and whatnot, feel free. That icon in the upper/left corner was the best I could do.
     
  3. Supa

    Supa Out of Cheese Error

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    I posted this in a discussion page on Wiki (Archer) but I think it will be easier to discuss this here.

     
  4. rkyte

    rkyte Chieftain

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    No, it's not. I'll work on that tonight as well.

    I wasn't thinking about this beyond the scope of xml/python documentation, which really don't need anything but text. But if people want to run with this and add the civlopedia and a bunch of other stuff that's fine with me. As long as I'm not hosting screenshots for sucession games or modpack artwork it shouldn't be a problem.

    It probably wouldn't hurt for everyone to discuss the kinds of things that should end up on the wiki. Civlopedia information and xml/python documentation are a good start. Should things like combat odds end up there? I read a great thread here that outlined how the odds are calculated. Is that information more appropriate here, there or both places?

    If information from a thread here makes it up on the wiki it should probably have a reference link to that thread.
     
  5. The Great Apple

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    I think both places would probably be best. I agree with the reference link as well.

    Thinking about it, given the inadiqucies of the Civilopedia (I haven't had first hand experience, but most seem to agree), a sort of online Civilopedia, with stratagy suggestions would be a really cool thing to have.

    BTW - I think Civrules might be quite interested in this, as he seems to be running the Civfanatics Civ 4 info centre.

    EDIT: I've got to get used to this WIKI thing... I should use that damn preview button a bit more often. I seem to be spamming the "recent changes" thing quite alot, with very small changes :blush:
     
  6. Supa

    Supa Out of Cheese Error

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    don't forget to correct my spelling mistakes :D
    someone already corrected the boolean part in unitsinfos; thanks greatapple
     
  8. vbraun

    vbraun Raytracing

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    I suggest a standard to be used for the XML files. Make it so that it is easily readable - ie lists and should leave no area for which someone would have to guess.

    I suggest a total of 4 areas:
    1. Summery
    2. Exampe (from the actuall game)
    3. Description of each tag
    4. Possible values for each.

    I'll show you what I mean with a few of the files I have already mapped out.
     
  9. Mr. Will

    Mr. Will Mister

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    I'm on board. I'll be moving my ridiculously blank guide there tonight.
     
  10. The Great Apple

    The Great Apple Big Cheese

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    Agree with this, at the moment we have several .xml files mapped out, each of them in a slightly different format!

    Hehe, no problem, I was about to list out all the tags when I saw you had done it. I mainly just added links to other parts of the future wiki.

    EDIT: We're getting along quite fast with this! Good job people!
     
  11. vbraun

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  14. vbraun

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    We also have to establish something like: "This is a guide for the modder by the modder"

    Also there needs to be a few rules possibly like: "This is not for advertisment for your mod in anyway, any advertisment will be proptly deleted."

    Mods should get there own site and not cluter up this reference guide. :)
     
  15. jbfballrb

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    what we need is categories, rather than lists. im trying to add in categories, which work better and easier than lists of units and files

    edit: should there be another thing labeled "mods and scenarios" with all of the big (or small ones too) mods there, listing changes, units, new tags, etc?
     
  16. MSTK

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    Some categories are already defined. But yes, Categories are MUCH better than lists in every possible way and aspect.

    And, I don't want to use Imagesack much longer. However, it seems like a must. There still isn't any type of image upload system built into the Wiki. This is a must-have. Why didn't you add thsi in the first place?
     
  17. rkyte

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    I didn't think ahead that far. :blush:

    I'll try to get this implemented tonight when I get everything transfered over to the new domain.
     
  18. The Great Apple

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    You probably know what you are doing better than I do (I've never edited a wiki before). I'll leave it to you to sort out catagories from my list :mischief:

    We've got to try and get a sensible system for naming things. When linking to un-made things I've tried to use quite generic links (America, rather than American for example). If you're going to make a addition, it would be good if you could check to see if there are any links that might be set up ready for that addition - will save us having to repair alot of broken links in the future.

    EDIT: And I'm still amazed at how fast stuff is getting added. Good job people!
     
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    there should be an image uploader....wait, i think its broken. i know they had one...
     
  20. Supa

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