Fall From Heaven NES
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We understand that the golden-tongued Kuriotates led you to believe them. At first we too thought that Cardith Lorca was a reasonable leader and not a spoiled brat.
As we announced earlier, general Caius Thorne had to report to the Senate because his actions seemed excessively harsh. Had you asked us, we would have repeated what we said:
We gladly accept your payment and retreat from our country and hope we will be able to further our trade agreements without any more fight between us.
As we announced earlier, general Caius Thorne had to report to the Senate because his actions seemed excessively harsh. Had you asked us, we would have repeated what we said:
We gladly accept your payment and retreat from our country and hope we will be able to further our trade agreements without any more fight between us.
I didn't mean to let them stay in my lands. I just stated the facts as they are right now.
However, Kuriotates can get out of this peacefully if they will:
To Cardith Lorca from Kandros Fir
You unjustly attacked us and caused bloodshed when you claim you want to avoid it.
Shoudl you act the way you talk, I understand that you will therefore leave our plains to ourselves and remove your armies to where your people need them.
By the same token, you understand that I cannot deliver general Thorne to someone who's ready to kill hundreds of people just to "trial" one person. Particularly when it had been made public this person would be in Khazak.
We also expectyou to pay us for the damage you caused, and then we will let you leave. Pay us 100 gold and leave this country, quit funding orcs who, as you should know, will use these funds for war, and the Khazad will not march into your lands.
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to: the lanun et al
From: the calabim internal affairs office
The lanun are a sea based people, and have more then enough food. The calabim however are starving. Any lanun claim to the wheat province will be met with force. I hope it doesn't have to come to that.
Sincerely, lord Agron
From: the calabim internal affairs office
The lanun are a sea based people, and have more then enough food. The calabim however are starving. Any lanun claim to the wheat province will be met with force. I hope it doesn't have to come to that.
Sincerely, lord Agron
Just to clarify, it is not true that they have more than enough food. In fact they lack farm-able areas.
The Khazad Republic is led by the First Consul, currently Kandros of the Fir clan, who is elected by the Senate. Candidates have to be backed by one of the other assemblies.
The Senate is the main representative body of the Republic. Censors decide who gets to be Senator based on their wealth (census). The Senate issues instructions to all magistrates except the Consul, who has the power to veto any act of the Senate or assembly, at a political cost.
There are also two "lesser" assemblies:
The Century Assembly and the Clanic Assembly. The former is an assembly of soldiers and former soldiers (citizens), who are assigned to a century based off how much property they own. The wealthiest are grouped into a majority of centuries, which means the richest have more power than the poorest. In addition to its legislative role, it acts as the highest court of appeal.
The Clanic Assembly is organised per clan. Each clan gets one vote. It's role is mostly to elect executive leaders and some magistrates.
The Assemblies elect the various magistrates. Higher magistrates (censirsn praetors, lesser consuls) are elected by the Century Assembly, and lesser magistrates (tribunes, quaestors) by the Clanic Assembly.
In theory, the Senate passes decrees which are less binding than laws voted by the Century Assembly. In practice, it's the most important institution and magistrates always obey the decrees. even though they are theoretically only advices. It's also the only body with the First Consul able to decide of military expeditions.
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Shamelessly adapted from the Roman Republic institutions thanks to wikipedia.
The Senate is the main representative body of the Republic. Censors decide who gets to be Senator based on their wealth (census). The Senate issues instructions to all magistrates except the Consul, who has the power to veto any act of the Senate or assembly, at a political cost.
There are also two "lesser" assemblies:
The Century Assembly and the Clanic Assembly. The former is an assembly of soldiers and former soldiers (citizens), who are assigned to a century based off how much property they own. The wealthiest are grouped into a majority of centuries, which means the richest have more power than the poorest. In addition to its legislative role, it acts as the highest court of appeal.
The Clanic Assembly is organised per clan. Each clan gets one vote. It's role is mostly to elect executive leaders and some magistrates.
The Assemblies elect the various magistrates. Higher magistrates (censirsn praetors, lesser consuls) are elected by the Century Assembly, and lesser magistrates (tribunes, quaestors) by the Clanic Assembly.
In theory, the Senate passes decrees which are less binding than laws voted by the Century Assembly. In practice, it's the most important institution and magistrates always obey the decrees. even though they are theoretically only advices. It's also the only body with the First Consul able to decide of military expeditions.
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Shamelessly adapted from the Roman Republic institutions thanks to wikipedia.
A brave decision. Vote by wealth was keeping power away from extremist masses. This will pacify em, but will it be enough?
As I understand, it is pseudo - universal suffrage. Masses have about of one-quarter of seats while wealthy still keep about 3/4. This is very, very, smart.
Also, how is head of state elected? Directly or by the senate?
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Masses also have a vote through their guilds. I know you dont want me to use that term, but i'll just use it at a national level. Ranchers can probably combine to have a vote. So can, for example, weavers. They may have two.
So the average person, the common villager gets a say based on their district and their trade.
The wealthier get more voice because fewer need to combine to form a 'trade' or coalition vote based on wealth.
But having said that, one noble house may control an entire senatorial seat to themselves as may a powerful merchant trading company.
But its more then 1/4 due to dual represenation.
Its meant to more then pacify. Remember that this was voted in meaning that it had the majority consensus of the senate. People honestly believe in it.
There's a spirit of change, of hope running through amurite politics, through the streets and through people's spirits. They have tasted representation and they like what they have. This is an extension of that.
So the average person, the common villager gets a say based on their district and their trade.
The wealthier get more voice because fewer need to combine to form a 'trade' or coalition vote based on wealth.
But having said that, one noble house may control an entire senatorial seat to themselves as may a powerful merchant trading company.
But its more then 1/4 due to dual represenation.
Its meant to more then pacify. Remember that this was voted in meaning that it had the majority consensus of the senate. People honestly believe in it.
There's a spirit of change, of hope running through amurite politics, through the streets and through people's spirits. They have tasted representation and they like what they have. This is an extension of that.
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Is there any upgrade path for militia if you don't research smelting and bronze working?
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Understood. Also, how is Head of State determined? Direct vote or senate vote?
Also, is position of Caswallen abolished? Valledia said something that 'Head of State must be elected, as civilized politician, not be won by trials, like some tribal chieftain'
No, and I dare to say that entire civilization won't be going anywhere without knowing how to work metals.
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ministers and the position of first speaker is decided by senatorial vote. Because each senator typically declares who they will support prior to running their own election, everyone gets to influence who is first speaker when they vote for their representative.
Indeed the position of Caswallen has not been adopted by the republic. The last Caswellen lost their position in the civil war.
orangelex44
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To Queen Alexis of the Calabim;
From the Captain's Assembly:
This discovery of rich farmlands at our border is a boon to us both, not a reason for anger!
Admit, at least, that both sides hold an equal claim to this resource. Even the Lanun, surrounded by our seas, must use the fruit of the lands to survive as much as any other nation. We understand, too, that the cities of the Calabim are hungry, and could well use this wheat.
Here, then, is our proposal: we are willing to relinquish our claim, but must have recompense for our gracious action. A simple gold amount would suffice; a mere 50 Gold.
May the winds guide you.
signed by the Captain's Assembly
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Our historians has written list of main events of this world in book they call "History of this world in cube" ... Our children and generals can learn from it and don't do same mistakes
This is only first edition and any feedback is welcome!
Feedback send on this address:
Midgar National publishing
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(or you can PM me)
Spoiler History of this world in cube :
This is only first edition and any feedback is welcome!
Feedback send on this address:
Midgar National publishing
East route #423
Midgar
Grigori nation
(or you can PM me)
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@Algeroth:
Post something already. We are all curious to hear what you have to say. You are online; please post; we are so curious.
Post something already. We are all curious to hear what you have to say. You are online; please post; we are so curious.
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I just hope, he won't say "NPC me"
OOC Response from summer court in response to Tyrs proposal.
While some may think that his offer is fair, it would be against character to ever accept or even offer it. He offers part of land for summer court.
Imagine this scenario. Year is 1936 and Republic of Spain is fighting civil war against Franco's nationalists. And then republicans offer him peace where he would get a part of lands in some remote colony, somewhere in Africa, where he would be able to rule as he pleases. And to it as a vassal of Republic. Does anyone see something wrong with this?
This is type of rebellion that can only be solved with fundamental reforms on government level. If such peace would ever be accepted, new state would exist only to plot against Svart and to seek to destroy them at first opportunity.
While some may think that his offer is fair, it would be against character to ever accept or even offer it. He offers part of land for summer court.
Imagine this scenario. Year is 1936 and Republic of Spain is fighting civil war against Franco's nationalists. And then republicans offer him peace where he would get a part of lands in some remote colony, somewhere in Africa, where he would be able to rule as he pleases. And to it as a vassal of Republic. Does anyone see something wrong with this?
This is type of rebellion that can only be solved with fundamental reforms on government level. If such peace would ever be accepted, new state would exist only to plot against Svart and to seek to destroy them at first opportunity.
He is very good player, and to it his position is better than it may seem on the glance. I don't believe he would duck out at first trouble.
