Iron and Blood 2 - Game Thread

Excerpts from the diary of Ecebay Çelik said:
18 June, 1813
Last month the Kings received a message from the Kingdom of Bosnia. This message included a map that marked several regions. The purpose of this map was to prevent future conflicts over territory. The Kings decided, after some deliberation, te send me, Ecebay Çelik, to the Kingdom of Bosnia in order to negotiate this proposal and reach an agreement.
My own thoughts on this. The world is in turmoil and if we are to become a powerfull state ones more we have to seek allies, even in nations that used to be part of our empire.


30 July, 1813
The negotiations have been a succes. An understanding has been reached on the matter of territory.

4 August, 1813
I have breached the matter of the State of Istanbul today. King Nedim seemed receptive to our cause but it is to soon to tell if he will support us

7 September, 1813
Alah be praised, King Nedim has agreed to support our cause. We have also agreed to send emmissiaries to the Grand Duchy of Moscow in order to gain their support.

26 Februari, 1814
A strange situation has appeared. The Duke of Moscow has sent a message to me saying he won’t support our cause but at the same time he sent a message to King Nedim that he will support us. We need to clarify this as soon as possible. Therefor I myself will travele to the court of the Duke.

14 April, 1814
I have met the Duke of Moscow today. The situation was quickly clarified and he will indeed support our cause. All that is left are the preperations of military nature. I can go back to court in the knowledge I have done my part.[/U]

25 March, 1815
The Kings have trusted me with great news. Next week I will see my travels, to Bosnia and Moscow, come to fruitition.

32 March, 1815
It has happened! Soon Istanbul is ours again.


From the representatives of the Sublime State of the Turks, the Kingdom of Bosnia and the Grand Duchy of Moscow.

We hereby formally declare war on the false state of Istanbul.
 
Not sure what I did here..... :confused:
 
ooc: *Insert Evil Ottoman Laugh here*,

also kudos to the one who predicted it, you know who you are. So typical, the balkans :rolleyes:
 
Spoiler :

In the year 1815, the glorious Confederate States of America, with the Golden Circle at the helm, is making big changes in our nation forged from the flames of the global conflagration and of a national schism that ripped the continent asunder. Regardless, these proud states are making our intentions for Texas, Florida, and Cuba known this year.

Furthermore, Confederate patent and copyright law is being improved upon to increase the incentive for innovators and inventors to get their new idea or designs into a marketable situation while at the same time not making the laws too strong as to stifle the very creative juices we are attempting to satisfy.

Confederate States of America (5 IC)
2 IC into Science
3 IC into Culture


To contact us, please take up the diplomatic inquiries or issues you may have in our embassy or simply send the government a private communique.
 
The Empire of Vijayanagara


Color: The color of the night sky (a nice dark black-blue)
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Capital: Vijayanagar (City of Victory), (in Hyderabad map province)
Governances: Rajya of Hyderabad, Rajya of Andhra (all in map province Hyderabad), Rajya of Travanacore, Rajya of Bijapur, Rajya of Mysore (all in map province Mysore), Rajya of Goa, Rajya of Pune, Rajya of Bombay (all in map province Bombay)
Leader: Emperor Jairaj Anand II Despande (1776-1815); The Despande dynasty has been in power since 1646.

History: The turning point (from OTL) in Vijayanagra's history is their turning back of the Bahmani Sultanate of the Deccan in 1532. From this point onwards, the Empire capitalized on the Sultanate's collapse to expand northwards, into Maharashtra. The pinnacle of Imperial expansion and power was reached in 1647, shortly after the crowning of Harihara III, the first Despande emperor, when the Imperial Army captured Goa from the Portuguese with minimal casualties. The Despandes mainly focused on internal affairs, starting India's first wave of industrialization in the 1770s especially after Jairaj Anand II was crowned in 1776.

The Empire experienced rapid social change and turmoil between the years 1750 and 1800, with the introduction of Enlightenment ideas from Europe revolutionized society. Jairaj Anand II was a forward-thinking believer in French Enlightenment ideas. A new school of thought emerged, combining traditional Indian thinking with the new ideas. This school advocated the presence of a benevolent king who loved and cared for his people, allowing them to make their own decisions and allowing great personal freedom. The caste system had fallen into disregard in many parts of the Empire as early as the late 17th century, and it was finally abolished. The Imperial Articles of Governance of 1790 was the final card that ensured liberal reforms.

Now as India enters a new age, a bright future awaits, especially as trade with Port Hadley in the southeast and on Lanka blossoms and the Empire opens itself to the world.

Factions: Although the caste system, long obsolete even by 1750, was finally officially abolished in 1794, the divisions still remain; the three major factions are three of the four varnas, (the fourth being the low-caste Shudras, now mostly laborers, sharecropping farm workers, poor independent or subsidence farmers, and urban workers. In 1815, the Shudras have little to no influence) Each "faction" is traditionally represented by a group of elders, although with societal change this is now becoming simply the most qualified and most respected members of a group.
-The Brahmins: The priest-intellectual caste, these are now the learned and "enlightened" people. The more liberal elements brought about the rapid social reform of the late 18th century, especially due to their presence in the Despande court. In 1815, most Brahmins in positions of influence are the liberal type, who advocate social reform and a push towards a more democratic and enlightened society. Economically, they favor protectionism and interventionist, even state capitalist, policy.
-The Kshatriyas: The warrior-ruling caste, these are now the more militant, even jingoist to a point. The Despande ruling house, understandably, has its roots here. Most of the Imperial Army officer corps are also represented here. They are somewhat conservative and (pan-)nationalist, favoring militarist policy and with the ultimate goal of uniting the Indian subcontinent under one banner.
-The Vaishyas: The merchant-farmer caste, some developed into rich merchant families even in the 17th and 18th centuries. Now, they represent the richer farmers (the ones who have sharecropping client farmers) and urban industrial capitalists and entrepreneurs. They are slighly socially conservative, but not significantly. However, they are heavily in support of free trade and laissez-faire economic policies.

Elections: Governors are elected by the people of a Rajya every 4 years. The Emperor title is hereditary and its holder is not elected unless there is no suitable inheritor, in which case the governors convene to elect a new dynasty to power. Below the rajya level, each administrative unit has its own system. Ministers and justices are handpicked, and there is near-universal use of civil service testing for lower positions.
Currency: The Rupee. Minted in Vijayanagar, Goa, Mysore, and Cochin as of 1815.
Measuring: The French metric system was officially adopted in 1795-1796. Older systems are still in use but are fading from existence.
Major products: Sorghum, spices, fruits and vegetables, rice, millet, fish, textiles, dairy, gems, iron, other metals and metal ores, fossil fuels
 
The Grand Duchy confirms its declaration of war against Istanbul.
 
Now we await Bosnia's official declaration...
 
UPCA (5IC)

4 IC into Factories in Honduras
1 IC into Science

Colonize El Salvador and Guatemala


RP to come.
 


1816

Incident at Copenhagen Gates

The Pope seized on the fact that Scandinavia is a secular nation and people are free to worship as they want, decided to send some Jesuits to Scandinavia.
New Wave of Evangelical missions

Concern from the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith and the Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith at the increase in paganism in Africa and Scandinavia has led to an increase in evangelical activity in Africa and in Scandinavia for the good of souls.

Jesuit missionaries have been sent to both countries to spread the faith, to supplement local missions, and the jesuit institutions of Kongola have likewise, and at the behest of the Holy See, increased their evangelical activities to respond to the increasing influence of the occult, voodoo sects.
They were initially sent via ship, but the Scandinavian Navy fired a warning shot over the bow as the Papal States flag they were flying was not one of the authorised trading partners and was instructed to turn around. The ship then later docked at the free port of Hamburg and unloaded the Jesuits there. The Jesuits then made the short journey from there to Copenhagen on foot and hopefully onwards to the rest of Scandinavia.

They approached the gates of Copenhagen and were met by the Town Watch, and asked what their business was. They said they are here to worship with fellow Catholics in Scandinavia. The Town Watch informed him that there are no Catholics here as following the events of 1814, most Catholics (who were mainly Poles, Croats and Spanish) left after the backlash against foreigners started.

While the Town Watch was discussing with the Jesuits about the exodus of Catholics from Scandinavia, Nikolaj Grundtvig, a Lutheran Chaplin demanded the Jesuits not be allowed to enter saying, "We do not want that sort of people coming here, we are all Lutherans." The Town Watch not wanting to cause offence to the esteemed visitors, told them that they will need to stay at the watch house, just outside the city, until a decision could be reached allowing entry. A message was then sent to the the local bishop requesting advice on what to do. The bishop decided he would meet with the Jesuits at noon and discuss the Jesuits plans within Scandinavia.

Meanwhile Nikolaj Grundtvig had managed to gather a crowd of supporters who held a vigil outside the watch house, to ensure that the Jesuits could not enter. The growing commotion eventually got to the attention of the Mayor of Copenhagen and he also showed in interest in this affair. He decided he would also meet with the Jesuits at noon with the Bishop. So, who is Nikolaj Grundtvig, and why was he able to gain so much support. Well he gave regular sermons saying the reason Denmark lost Norway was because of the weakness of the Danish faith and he managed to gain many enthusiastic supporters to his cause.

Around noon the crowd outside the watch house had grown to many hundreds chanting "GO HOME!!! ... GO HOME!!!". The Bishop and the Mayor arrived and attempted to pass through the crowd to enter the watch house, but could not get in. The Town Watch then instructed the guarding soldiers to clear a path to let them through to the door. They eventually entered the watch house and then began the meeting. The meeting then commenced, whereby the Jesuits again asked if they could enter Scandinavia and worship with fellow Catholics. The Bishop explained that Scandinavia is Lutheran and all remnants of the Catholic faith have long since gone many centuries ago and the cathedrals and churches have been converted to Lutheran. The few Catholics they had here were Poles, Croat and Spanish and they generally worshipped in private houses. The Mayor then explained that the events of 1814 and the grand conspiracy orchestrated by foreigners, had made the situation for them untenable and most had decided to return to their homelands.

The Jesuits listened to the distinguished people's explanations and reasoned that entering Scandinavia would be a fruitless mission and decided to return to Rome explaining their failure to complete the mission. On consideration that the crowd outside were becoming even more hostile, the safety of the Jesuits could not be assured, the Mayor instructed the Town Watch to escort the Jesuits to the Danish border, so they could then continue their journey home.

While the Jesuits were being escorted back to the Danish border they met a Jewish Rabbi and his entourage who had wanted to do a similar mission to them. They paused along the road and discussed what had happened to them in the previous days and the Rabbi concluded he might as well also return as the time is not right to be entering Scandinavia so soon after the events of 1814. They will need to wait a few years or possibly decades before attempting a similar mission in the future.

These events were then passed on in a report to the Archbishop of Denmark, who will then need to seek advice on what further action to take and may need to respond to the Pope.
 
Following a long, painful process, Congress has passed the 13th and 14th Amendments. The former is to prevent slavery, and is a bit redundant; the latter is for protecting the rights of former citizens who wish to move north.
13th Amendment
"Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
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14th Amendment (The "Former Citizens Amendment")
"Section 1. All men who formerly lived in what is now known as the Confederate States of America and moved north afterwards, or who wish to move north from there, are full citizens of the United States of North America and will be granted those rights upon entry to the nation after 1 year of living in the nation.
Section 2. Only those citizens who were from the border states of Virginia and Kentucky are permitted to be nominated for any federal government positions after 1 year of citizenship.
Secion 3. All people in the Confederated States of America who move north are permitted to run for any state office after 1 year of citizenship.
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In other news, here are the candidates for the upcoming election in 1816:
Democratic-Republican Party (Republicans)
Presidential Candidate- Daniel D. Tompkins
Vice Presidential Candidate- Jonas Platt
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Federalist Party
Presidential Candidate- Rufus King
Vice Presidential Candidate- Richard Rush
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Papal Encyclical: Libertas Praestantissimum.

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In the year 1816 of our Lord Jesus Christ in reflection of the horrors wrought of the liberalism born of the french revolution, and which to this day threaten true liberty amongst the nations. His Holiness the Pope Pius VII has for the good of the Church and all humanity released an encyclical to illumine the minds of Gods children across the world, and to ensure the errors quashed beneath the heel of the faithful do not again rise unchallenged.

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Libertas

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Liberty, the highest of natural endowments, being the portion only of intellectual or rational natures, confers on man this dignity - that he is "in the hand of his counsel" and has power over his actions. But the manner in which such dignity is exercised is of the greatest moment, inasmuch as on the use that is made of liberty the highest good and the greatest evil alike depend. Man, indeed, is free to obey his reason, to seek moral good, and to strive unswervingly after his last end. Yet he is free also to turn aside to all other things; and, in pursuing the empty semblance of good, to disturb rightful order and to fall headlong into the destruction which he has voluntarily chosen. The Redeemer of mankind, Jesus Christ, having restored and exalted the original dignity of nature, vouchsafed special assistance to the will of man; and by the gifts of His grace here, and the promise of heavenly bliss hereafter, He raised it to a nobler state.

In like manner, this great gift of nature has ever been, and always will be, deservingly cherished by the Catholic Church, for to her alone has been committed the charge of handing down to all ages the benefits purchased for us by Jesus Christ. Yet there are many who imagine that the Church is hostile to human liberty. Having a false and absurd notion as to what liberty is, either they pervert the very idea of freedom, or they extend it at their pleasure to many things in respect of which man cannot rightly be regarded as free.For indeed all prescriptions of human reason can have force of law only inasmuch as they are the voice and the interpreters of some higher power on which our reason and liberty necessarily depend. Thus of the laws enacted by men, some are concerned with what is good or bad by its very nature; and they command men to follow after what is right and to shun what is wrong, adding at the same time a suitable sanction. But such laws by no means derive their origin from civil society, because, just as civil society did not create human nature, so neither can it be said to be the author of the good which befits human nature, or of the evil which is contrary to it.

From this it is manifest that the eternal law of God is the sole standard and rule of human liberty, not only in each individual man, but also in the community and civil society which men constitute when united. Therefore, the true liberty of human society does not consist in every man doing what he pleases, for this would simply end in turmoil and confusion, and bring on the overthrow of the State; but rather in this, that through the injunctions of the civil law all may more easily conform to the prescriptions of the eternal law. Likewise, the liberty of those who are in authority does not consist in the power to lay unreasonable and capricious commands upon their subjects, which would equally be criminal and would lead to the ruin of the commonwealth; but the binding force of human laws is in this, that they are to be regarded as applications of the eternal law, and incapable of sanctioning anything which is not contained in the eternal law, as in the principle of all law. Thus, St. Augustine most wisely says: “I think that you can see, at the same time, that there is nothing just and lawful in that temporal law, unless what men have gathered from this eternal law.” If, then, by anyone in authority, something be sanctioned out of conformity with the principles of right reason, and consequently hurtful to the commonwealth, such an enactment can have no binding force of law, as being no rule of justice, but certain to lead men away from that good which is the very end of civil society.

Indeed, where the power to command is wanting, or where a law is enacted contrary to reason, or to the eternal law, or to some ordinance of God, obedience is unlawful, lest, while obeying man, we become disobedient to God. Thus, an effectual barrier being opposed to tyranny, the authority in the State will not have all its own way, but the interests and rights of all will be safeguarded—the rights of individuals, of domestic society, and of all the members of the commonwealth; all being free to live according to law and right reason; and in this, as We have shown, true liberty really consists. But it has come to pass that another liberty is widely advocated in modern times, namely, liberty of conscience. If by this is meant that everyone may, as he chooses, worship God or not, it is sufficiently refuted by the arguments already adduced, for it is a moral obligation of the eternal law to worship the Lord God. It may also be taken to mean that every man in the State may follow the will of God and, from a consciousness of duty and free from every obstacle, obey His commands.

This, indeed, is true liberty, a liberty worthy of the sons of God, which nobly maintains the dignity of man and is stronger than all violence or wrong—a liberty which the Church has always desired and held most dear. This is the kind of liberty the Apostles claimed for themselves with intrepid constancy, which the apologists of Christianity confirmed by their writings, and which the martyrs in vast numbers consecrated by their blood. And deservedly so; for this Christian liberty bears witness to the absolute and most just dominion of God over man, and to the chief and supreme duty of man toward God. It has nothing in common with a seditious and rebellious mind; and in no tittle derogates from obedience to public authority; for the right to command and to require obedience exists only so far as it is in accordance with the authority of God, and is within the measure that He has laid down. But when anything is commanded which is plainly at variance with the will of God, there is a wide departure from this divinely constituted order, and at the same time a direct conflict with divine authority; therefore, it is right not to obey.

However, the patrons of liberalism, those who make the State absolute and omnipotent, and proclaim that man should live altogether independently of God, the liberty of which We speak, which goes hand in hand with virtue and religion, is not admitted; and whatever is done for its preservation is accounted an injury and an offense against the State. Indeed, if what they say were really true, there would be no tyranny, no matter how monstrous, which we should not be bound to endure and submit to. For in divorcing temporal law from the eternal law, they propose that man must submit unflinchingly to the dictates of the state, supressing and destroying the true liberty of which we speak. We saw this dangerous and destructive tendency made manifest in the age of revolutions, with the tyranny of the majority in France leading to the chaos of the reign of terror. We see this error made manifest on this very day in Paraguay, where the states has become the absolute arbiter of law and righteousness.

In light of these modern errors we must therefore urge all the faithful to everywhere and in all places stand steadfast in the faith, and resist with greatest zeal the false freedom proclaimed by liberalism and all subsequent so called "progressive" ideologies. For should these errors gain sway truly the Church will face persecution reminiscent of old, and mankind shall become subjected to a dictatorship of relativism where the will of the ruler or the majority shall impose itself on the individual conscience, and force all who resist to submit to it.

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Pope Pius VII

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Vatican Watchers have widely interpreted the timing of this encyclical as a response to the incident at Copenhagen. Although most observers also think it is a sign of increasing papal concern at the situation in Paraguay. Either way this encyclical is a great blow to liberalism in Catholic Europe, most especially considering the increased dominance of Catholicism in Europe thanks to the rise of the Teutonic Order.

In other news the Holy See has at the same time as this encyclical sent diplomatic letters to Portugal and the United Northern States of America, commending the latter on its measures to combat the dehumanising evil of slavery, an unfortunate state of being that must rightly be transcended in this modern age and inquiring as to measures being taken in Brazil to emulate the North Americans praiseworthy actions towards a similar end.

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~ Jehoshua
 
The Kingdom of Bosnia declares war on the Free City State of Istanbul for several reasons, the main casus belil being the liberation of the slavic Bulgarians the other being Istanbul calls itself a city state but in fact it controls an illegitimate Empire
 
Questions and Answers

Colonizing no longer cost IC, but I can still spend IC to colonize, right? (for a boost?)

Put IC in Culture Points, National Unity, etc if you want a boost.

The Bonus "-50% IC cost, +25% NU cost" is massively OP.

I would assume that putting all in factories would consitute as "industrializing too fast", leading to NU collapse by turn 2 and worsening situation as it drags the inflated IC down? If not I would agree that it is, indeed, OP.

It may be OP yes; though I note that the one country with that bonus, Poland-Lithuania, has two strong anti-industrialism factions. They are going to raise hell if Crezth starts spamming factories.

Further Clarifications

- Armies appear the turn it is ordered (so if you order 5 units this turn you get those units to fight with this turn).

- IC aid appear the turn after it is sent (so if you send Nunavut 5 IC this turn they get it at update time).

Also, please disclose any NAPs, Defence Pacts, and Alliances to me the GM, in the thread if non-secret, via PM if secret. So I know who's backstabbing who. ;)
 
Question: can armies and navies be lent to other countries?
 
The Percentages given by the calculator are for each province you try to colonise or your over all chance?
 
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