NOTW L: The Immortals [Game Thread]

[Frozen In Ice]

It's good to see that there was no demon killed last night, though the vampire kill is disappointing. In the meantime I think it is a good idea to put more pressure on Seon so that he has an incentive to talk.

 

[Zack]

There is no place for a demon such as Seon in this world! The only plane of existence fit for his kind is death!

I could also make good use of some of these orbs, specifically the FIRE and METAMAGIC orbs. (Zack / Zack)

 

[Kennigit]

I should reiterate that no one should take results from my action as any proof. I misunderstood.

But my reason for even checking Seon was I didn't really like how he brought up the autolycus bit last lynch. As well as suggesting that mana can be used for demon summoners, when I and others have good reason to believe people are demon's themselves.

I.e. their race is "Demon" as opposed to human, elf, vampire, etc.

Also, in the demon backstory, I believe the hooded figure is the demon himself. The demons do the immolation rather than demon cultists doing the immolation, etc.

There are demons that walk among us.

 

[Seon]

Very well then.

Ken told me that he had a vigilante ability that targeted only demons. obviously be used this ability on me yesterday night.

He made a mistake of assuming that such an ability can be used as a detective power. What happened was that ken successfully cast the spell on me, but as I was not a demon, dealt no damage. I got the message saying that I was attacked but received no damage. He got the message that he successfully cast the spell. A message saying "successfully cast the spell" will appear to anytime that ken casts this spell, so this part of the accusation carries no weight.

This is the only basis behind the accusation against me. Thus, the entire accusation bears 0 weight.



I would like to direct your attention instead to Zack, who was extremely quick to jump on the bandwagon despite the fact that ken admitted to being hasty in his decision. In addition he claimed the fire mana nonchalantly despite its dangerous application and the fact that the being has been immolating us in our sleep. Perhaps he needs more power?

 

[Kennigit]

unvote. sorry for the many posts people, but Seon has told me all that there probably is to know about him at face value.

So if other people have any suspicions voice them. If not, I will simply go back to Seon later in the day.

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

"I wish to note that in spite of attempts to clear Seon via an OBVIOUS METHOD OF DOING SO, Kennigit has become EXTREMELY STUBBORN AND BULL-HEADED, and REFUSES TO COMPROMISE.

As such, I wash my hands of this whole affair. And I am very disappointed."

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

*scoffs at Kennigit's latest actions*

"How appropriate. Won't budge a single inch at all, then randomly reverses. Don't I feel like I've wasted my time."

 

[Zack]

I would like to direct your attention instead to Zack, who was extremely quick to jump on the bandwagon despite the fact that ken admitted to being hasty in his decision. In addition he claimed the fire mana nonchalantly despite its dangerous application and the fact that the being has been immolating us in our sleep. Perhaps he needs more power?

Oh My God, U Suck!

 

[Seon]

Look at Zack, getting red faced, just like a demon would.

And this "U." Obviously a mispronunciation driven by being unused to human language in favor of the insidious demonic tongue.

Definitely guilty, I say.

 

[Zack]

And this "U." Obviously a mispronunciation driven by being unused to human language in favor of the insidious demonic tongue.

Humans are such hypocrites. I'd like to see you try your hand at the Elven tongue, you smelly racist.

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

"Just noting for the record, the **obvious** route away from a Seon mislynch was Kennigit using his power on another target, and that target reporting that nothing happened to them in the night.

It was patently obvious to me, this either catches Seon or avoids a mislynch. Nothing is lost by the plan, even in the case I am being overly cautious, because Seon still dies soon if he is guilty. Like, tomorrow soon.

I suppose reason can still win the day. Let us hope I do not have to speak until I am..... well, still red in the face, for it to happen that way."

 

[Kennigit]

I explained that's a dumb plan. "Oh attacking an innocent and doing no damage proves Seon's innocence retroactively"

then combine the fact that what if I just attacked a noninnocent and they just lie. "Oh yeah I took no damage"

that's not unwilling to compromise.

 

[Zack]

I explained that's a dumb plan. "Oh attacking an innocent and doing no damage proves Seon's innocence retroactively"

then combine the fact that what if I just attacked a noninnocent and they just lie. "Oh yeah I took no damage"

that's not unwilling to compromise.

This raises a good point. How do we know Seon didn't take any damage?

Also, (@Kenny) this wasn't the only time you've used your ability, was it?

 

[Kennigit]

I will no longer hog the thread and will retire until a future case is made. I made a mistake in assuming too much, acknowledge it, and will move on.

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

I explained that's a dumb plan. "Oh attacking an innocent and doing no damage proves Seon's innocence retroactively"

then combine the fact that what if I just attacked a noninnocent and they just lie. "Oh yeah I took no damage"

that's not unwilling to compromise.

The Regent grits his fangs frustratedly and speaks very slowly.

"Attacking an innocent and doing no damage proves that you can attack someone and do no damage, as Seon has claimed, whereas attacking an innocent and doing damage means that Seon is lying about having taken no damage.

And if you attack TWO non-innocents, this is bad for us..... how?"

The Regent is wondering why the patently obvious needs to even be explained in such meticulous detail. Is Kennigit being unreasonable on purpose, or is it some kind of medical condition?

"And if you describe my ideas as dumb one more time, so help me, I will stop caring which team you root for."

 

[Zack]

The Regent grits his fangs frustratedly and speaks very slowly.

"Attacking an innocent and doing no damage proves that you can attack someone and do no damage, as Seon has claimed, whereas attacking an innocent and doing damage means that Seon is lying about having taken no damage.

And if you attack TWO non-innocents, this is bad for us..... how?"

The Regent is wondering why the patently obvious needs to even be explained in such meticulous detail. Is Kennigit being unreasonable on purpose, or is it some kind of medical condition?

You completely failed to address his concern - how do we know whether or not any damage is done? Believe it or not, people lie.

 

[TheLastDays]

Attack me, please, Kenny. To be serious, if he simply attacks enough targets they can't all be demons.

 

[Seon]

Okay, Zack, let me get this straight.

So your preferred method of investigation is basically this.

"Okay, let's have our vigilante attack guy X. If he says he took damage, then he obviously is a demon and needs to be lynched. If he doesn't be could be lying so we should just lynch him just in case."

That makes zero sense.

 

[Zack]

Okay, Zack, let me get this straight.

So your preferred method of investigation is basically this.

"Okay, let's have our vigilante attack guy X. If he says he took damage, then he obviously is a demon and needs to be lynched. If he doesn't be could be lying so we should just lynch him just in case."

That makes zero sense.

Yes, that's exactly what I said. Thank you for not misconstruing my words in a brazen attempt to portray me as a moron.

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

You completely failed to address his concern - how do we know whether or not any damage is done? Believe it or not, people lie.

The Regent stands and his eyes glow deep orange.

"Kind sir Zack, there are those who speak ill of you, and wish you harm. And I have repeatedly silenced those voices, because I believe YOU to be a man of serious intellect and a great asset to this council, if you are indeed innocent, and should you be guilty, I would be most pleased to chase you and hunt you down honorably, because I enjoy that sort of challenge.

I say this not because I want something from you, but to voice my respect, which others can vouch for as being quite real.

Sir, if Kennigit targets someone and it does no damage, this lends a note of credibility to Seon's claim that he took no damage. It does not prove him innocent, but it establishes unequivocally that Kennigit's spell attack can cause zero harm to an innocent.

That means there is no basis for accusing Seon. None.... the entirety of the case against Seon is that Kennigit targeted him and the spell was successful. In his own words, this is the entirety of the case against Seon.

And he has retracted that same accusation because, even he knows, that if he can target an innocent and there will be no damage done, it means he has obtained no actual evidenciary support that Seon is a Demon.

All he's done is target a random person. That is all. That's not a case, that's a random and baseless accusation.

I know you understand this, and are fair-minded. Because I believe you to be honorable and wise enough to admit when logic dictates a certain course of action.

I trust you concur, but if you do not, I trust you to be able to articulate a reason why non-evidence can be used as evidence here. It is not a reasonable course of action.

Now then, there may be other reasons to suspect Seon. And, perhaps, we do not NEED reasons to suspect Seon. If you wish to lynch him anyway, I approve of that action, because if he is guilty, lynching him on no evidence is even stronger than lynching him with false flag evidence. It suggests that you're definitely not in league with Seon.

So, by all means, leave your accusations where they are. But make it clear, you're accusing Seon just because, not because Kennigit is able to target him with a spell that might do nothing to others. That is actually a far more reasonable thing to do, and I have no objections whatsoever to that.

Seon is not at all clear. Voting him is entirely appropriate. But testing Master Kennigit's abilities seems wise to me."