Political Whiplash: From banning to legalizing 6 months

[Leonel]

Update from Dutch marriage: still undestroyed.

Can you check again?

 

[classical_hero]

Update from Dutch marriage: still undestroyed.

Did the 2008 Financial crisis happen overnight? No it didn't. It took decades of bad decisions to come to fruition. We are not saying it will happen overnight but happens to generations.

We have been warning about this for a long time and yet they (the homosexual activists) have been very clear on what they want.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/oct/12/gay-liberation-front-social-revolution

GLF was a glorious, enthusiastic and often chaotic mix of anarchists, hippies, leftwingers, feminists, liberals and counter-culturalists. Despite our differences, we shared a radical idealism – a dream of what the world could and should be – free from not just homophobia but the whole sex-shame culture, which oppressed straights as much as LGBTs. We were sexual liberationists and social revolutionaries, out to turn the world upside down.

GLF espoused a nonviolent revolution in cultural values and attitudes. It questioned marriage, the nuclear family, monogamy and patriarchy – as well as the wars in Vietnam and Ireland. Although against homophobic discrimination, GLF's main aim was never equality within the status quo. We saw society as fundamentally unjust and sought to change it, to end the oppression of LGBTs – and of everyone else.

GLF aligned itself with the movements for women's, black, Irish, working-class and colonial freedom. We marched for troops out of Ireland and against the anti-union Industrial Relations Act. Although critical of the "straight left" and often condemned by them, most of us saw ourselves as part of the broad anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist movement, striving for the emancipation of all humankind.

Our idealistic vision involved creating a new sexual democracy, without homophobia, misogyny, racism and class privilege. Erotic shame and guilt would be banished. There would be sexual freedom and human rights for everyone – gay, bi and straight. Our message was "innovate, don't assimilate".

They talk about "removing shame from sex". Should this go for those who are for bestiality? What about if you are a "minor attracted individual", aka paedophile? In fact this organisation is going down the same route that homosexual activists took in getting it normalised.

 

[peter grimes]

Please point out to us where your Jesus says that gay marriage equals the destruction of marriage.

Since, you know, I haven't read the bible (nor do I plan on it) and you claim to have.

It must be in very plain language since it has such massively dire consequences as you've enumerated above.

Did the 2008 Financial crisis happen overnight? No it didn't. It took decades of bad decisions to come to fruition. We are not saying it will happen overnight but happens to generations.

I took about 1.5 decades. How long to you think western civlization has now that so many places have decided to let people who love eachother get married?

We have been warning about this for a long time and yet they (the homosexual activists) have been very clear on what they want.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/oct/12/gay-liberation-front-social-revolution

They talk about "removing shame from sex". Should this go for those who are for bestiality? What about if you are a "minor attracted individual", aka paedophile? In fact this organisation is going down the same route that homosexual activists took in getting it normalised.

You're forgetting choosing to ignore that whole 'consenting adults' thing. You're not, by any chance, in the Catholic clergy, are you?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

OMG has anyone heard from The Netherlands today?? I'm afraid Gods have washed them into the sea!

Still here.

Can you check again?

Sure, hang on ...

Yep, people are still getting married.

Did the 2008 Financial crisis happen overnight? No it didn't. It took decades of bad decisions to come to fruition. We are not saying it will happen overnight but happens to generations.

God works in slow bureaucratic tedious mysterious ways you say. Hmmm, interesting.

But indeed, you never prophecize with an accountable timeframe in mind, you've been burned too often by making falsifiable prophecies which have all been falsified so far.

We have been warning about this for a long time

See? It's one of those 'prophecies': "It'll happen! You'll see!". When? It's like the rapture innit? Always just around the corner.

I guess God's a busy deity.

They talk about "removing shame from sex".

If you are going to paraphrase, please don't put quotation marks (Link does not have that phrase). If you are quoting from another source please provide the quote so we can judge context.

Then explain to us what is shameful about sex.

 

[useless]

I hope you're not equating homosexuality and the eventual legalisation of gay marriage as being akin to beastiality or allowing pedophilia Classical_Hero, because that's what bigots like Bryan Fischer and those at the AFA do, and you claim to not be a bigot.

 

[Leonel]

Sure, hang on ...

Yep, people are still getting married.

Are you sure it's not like a Starbucks or a car licensing office?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Are you sure it's not like a Starbucks or a car licensing office?

I'm not sure what that means, so no I'm not.

I'm sure the so-called marriages are no longer sacred.

 

[say1988]

God works in slow bureaucratic tedious mysterious ways you say. Hmmm, interesting.

He also apparently gets confused at times, giving major practitioners of polygamy massive quantities of oil to let them get rich.

 

[Terxpahseyton]

Confused? A test of faith, like pretty much anything he does.

 

[Traitorfish]

Did the 2008 Financial crisis happen overnight? No it didn't. It took decades of bad decisions to come to fruition. We are not saying it will happen overnight but happens to generations.

The 2008 crisis was, as the name implies, a crisis. It wasn't spontaneous, but it was sudden. Yet, you've previously described the threat of homosexuality, feminism, etc. as one of "decay" and "decline", suggesting a gradual, observable tendency. Have you changed your opinion on this? And, if so, what do you imagine a "cultural crisis" might look like.

 

[JollyRoger]

Then explain to us what is shameful about sex.

Little Beethoven

And, if so, what do you imagine a "cultural crisis" might look like.

The end of a scene starring Spring Thomas.

 

[peter grimes]

The end of a scene starring Spring Thomas.

I had to google that one.

 

[El_Machinae]

This is how I imagine you at this point:

I'm just sick of the selective interpretations of the Bible.

 

[sophie]

Did the 2008 Financial crisis happen overnight? No it didn't. It took decades of bad decisions to come to fruition. We are not saying it will happen overnight but happens to generations.

Well the Sistine Chapel's been restored, so I'd say we've bought ourselves at least another 4 or 5 decades before teh gayz bring civilization crashing down.

 

[Arwon]

Did the 2008 Financial crisis happen overnight? No it didn't. It took decades of bad decisions to come to fruition. We are not saying it will happen overnight but happens to generations.

We have been warning about this for a long time and yet they (the homosexual activists) have been very clear on what they want.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/oct/12/gay-liberation-front-social-revolution

They talk about "removing shame from sex". Should this go for those who are for bestiality? What about if you are a "minor attracted individual", aka paedophile? In fact this organisation is going down the same route that homosexual activists took in getting it normalised.

I think you're confused. Your nasty little fringe theocratic society is doomed. Not the rest of us. You've been hilariously impotent and irrelevant for a long time and are only going to get moreso.

But you're mistaking the death of your own narrow little slice of human experience for some broader malaise. You are so narrowminded you imagine we must be replacing your own ancient sexual dogma with nothing, rather than with ethics of reciprocity and capacity to consent derived from human experience.

That's empty solipsism and hubris, the rest of us are just fine without your angry hateful straitjacket.

 

[Tahuti]

In heaven, all the interesting people are missing...

 

[Arakhor]

Why does CH not get excited (or answer questions) about divorce? That is forbidden in the Bible under no uncertain terms and in the New Testament, no less.

 

[useless]

Because divorce usually involves straight people, which he approves the existence of.

 

[El_Machinae]

It's not so much divorce as remarriage that's the issue, no?

 

[Arakhor]

Well, what God has joined together, let no man set asunder (and all that). Remarriage is just a knock-on from disobeying God's clear instructions in that regard.