Abaddon
Deity
Are any nations already in a state of war?
staznesX: All Under Heaven
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germanicus12
First Citizen of Rome
To the Netherlands
From Great Britain
Good evening, my dear friends. I am sure we all remember the bloody 2nd Dutch War.... and how deadly it was. I bring this up for one reason, your involovement in the rebellion. Great Britain has the right to declare war on you for this matter, but since we are all gentlemen, I am sure we can come to a compromise that does not support war, for I am sure that you, like me, do not want another bloody war. Therefore Great Britain is willing to let the past be the past if you agree to withdraw all agents and other people supporting the rebels from America.
Should you refuse, our ships will recieve the order, 'All ships bearing the Dutch flag are to be treated as hostile, and all captains are allowed to sink her by all or any means neccessary.' I am sure my friends will follow me in declaring this as well. But I will let them choose whether or not they want to do so.
So let this be your final warning. Cease your actions in America, immediatly!
Signed, Charles III, by the Grace of God King of England and Ireland, protector of the Faith, and ruler of the seas.
OOC: Great Britian, according to the Rise of the Colonies historical narrative, knows about Dutch participant. So I am going by with what I read, if I am wrong please point it out.
From Great Britain
Good evening, my dear friends. I am sure we all remember the bloody 2nd Dutch War.... and how deadly it was. I bring this up for one reason, your involovement in the rebellion. Great Britain has the right to declare war on you for this matter, but since we are all gentlemen, I am sure we can come to a compromise that does not support war, for I am sure that you, like me, do not want another bloody war. Therefore Great Britain is willing to let the past be the past if you agree to withdraw all agents and other people supporting the rebels from America.
Should you refuse, our ships will recieve the order, 'All ships bearing the Dutch flag are to be treated as hostile, and all captains are allowed to sink her by all or any means neccessary.' I am sure my friends will follow me in declaring this as well. But I will let them choose whether or not they want to do so.
So let this be your final warning. Cease your actions in America, immediatly!
Signed, Charles III, by the Grace of God King of England and Ireland, protector of the Faith, and ruler of the seas.
OOC: Great Britian, according to the Rise of the Colonies historical narrative, knows about Dutch participant. So I am going by with what I read, if I am wrong please point it out.
From: The United Provinces of the Netherlands
To: The Kingdom of Great Britain
Amsterdam has no control over what our more enterprising countrymen may do. We will withdraw our fleet from waters deemed "warzones" by you, we suppose, but it was never our intention to engage the British fleet head on nor to assist the rebels.
To: The Kingdom of Great Britain
Amsterdam has no control over what our more enterprising countrymen may do. We will withdraw our fleet from waters deemed "warzones" by you, we suppose, but it was never our intention to engage the British fleet head on nor to assist the rebels.
germanicus12
First Citizen of Rome
To the United Provinces of the Netherlands
From the Kingdom of Great Britain
Thank you, whether it was or was not your intention to help the rebels, they still got the help from the Dutch. Perhaps it is as you said, 'enterprising countrymen'. Therefore to stop such a sneaky maneuver, the coast of America is now undergoing a blockade. All ships will be turned around and sent back to their home countries or nearest safe port to load up on provisions under British eyes.
To Nations of the World
From Great Britain
A blockade of America is in effect, any ships caught running the blockade will be captured and utilized into the British fleet, and all sailors thrown into prison for breaking British territorial law.
From the Kingdom of Great Britain
Thank you, whether it was or was not your intention to help the rebels, they still got the help from the Dutch. Perhaps it is as you said, 'enterprising countrymen'. Therefore to stop such a sneaky maneuver, the coast of America is now undergoing a blockade. All ships will be turned around and sent back to their home countries or nearest safe port to load up on provisions under British eyes.
To Nations of the World
From Great Britain
A blockade of America is in effect, any ships caught running the blockade will be captured and utilized into the British fleet, and all sailors thrown into prison for breaking British territorial law.
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To: Nations of the World
CC: Britain
From: the United States of America
And thus does King Charles exert tyranny not only upon his own people, but upon other nations of the world as well and begins to interdict trade of sovereign nations. And threaten seizure of property and people of of foreign countries no less. I quote "any ships caught running the blockade will be captured and utilized into the British fleet, and all sailors thrown into prison for breaking British territorial law."
Truly has His Most Divinely Splendid and Exalted Majesty, the Ruler of All that He Surveys, King Charles perfected the fine and noble art of oppression. Our most sincere and heartfelt congratulations to him.
CC: Britain
From: the United States of America
And thus does King Charles exert tyranny not only upon his own people, but upon other nations of the world as well and begins to interdict trade of sovereign nations. And threaten seizure of property and people of of foreign countries no less. I quote "any ships caught running the blockade will be captured and utilized into the British fleet, and all sailors thrown into prison for breaking British territorial law."
Truly has His Most Divinely Splendid and Exalted Majesty, the Ruler of All that He Surveys, King Charles perfected the fine and noble art of oppression. Our most sincere and heartfelt congratulations to him.
alex994
Hail Divine Emperor!
To: Great Britain, United Provinces of Netherlands
From: The Nan Ming Chinese Empire
Let it be clear, that although hostilities have been avoided by our allies in the United Provinces of the Netherlands, His Imperial Majesty frowns upon the actions of Great Britain. China does not appreciate Great Britain's tone and politely requests that Great Britain choose more courteous words. Should Great Britain ever decide to declare war on the United Provinces of the Netherlands, the Nan Ming Chinese Empire will go to the defense of our ally.
From: The Nan Ming Chinese Empire
Let it be clear, that although hostilities have been avoided by our allies in the United Provinces of the Netherlands, His Imperial Majesty frowns upon the actions of Great Britain. China does not appreciate Great Britain's tone and politely requests that Great Britain choose more courteous words. Should Great Britain ever decide to declare war on the United Provinces of the Netherlands, the Nan Ming Chinese Empire will go to the defense of our ally.
Abaddon
Deity
@ Yui.. you an your pope fetish 
germanicus12
First Citizen of Rome
King Charles: Oh we got a message from China?
Aide: Yes sir.
King Charles: My fire is getting a bit low, throw the message in there.
Aide: Yes sir.
*unopened letter tossed into fireplace*
Aide: Yes sir.
King Charles: My fire is getting a bit low, throw the message in there.
Aide: Yes sir.
*unopened letter tossed into fireplace*
Terrance888
Discord Reigns
I'll let Yui take it since that is what I want unless he didn't want it...
I need to know that nations are Protestant... I have a secret reason...
I need to know that nations are Protestant... I have a secret reason...
alex994
Hail Divine Emperor!
OOC: You should keep in mind that this is NOT the OTL China of 1750 and you will do well to remember that.
IC: *China considers the lack of response*
Considering the rude lack of response, Great Britain may be informed by His Imperial Majesty's Representative in London that British traders will be receiving a very frosty welcome in all the ports of Eastern Asia where the Chinese banner flies and where China possess influence.
Neverwonagame3
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By the way, Azale, what is the status of Catholicism and Protestantism in Saxony?
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
OOC: Does it really matter?
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
Surprisingly enough, it does. Saxony is a strongly Protestant duchy, but Augustus II had to convert to Catholicism in order to rule Poland legally. So, this is probably a controversial topic in Saxony.
Sounds like it probably wouldn't be much changed from OTL, then, considering who was in charge of Saxony and Poland then.
Azale, would it be acceptable for me to form a Métis nation in the interior of North America? I have read through the timeline, and the earlier expulsions from New France, French activity in the interior of North America, and with the current unstable situation in the east of the continent, make a Métis nation seem feasible to me.
Angst
Rambling and inconsistent
The Austrians (Me, that is) did reply that way because it is much easier to degrade an enemy than coming with actual arguments, because thou art my nemesis as a Protestant nation, dear Swede. And I must press you to accept that as, you do know, a) I am stronger than you and b) there is still problems between Protestant and Catholic nations.
So dear Swede, this is a letter to worsen our relationships in this NES.
good day.Neverwonagame3
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EDIT: I meant should not. Oops.
OOC:
Sweden in this TL is not weaker then Austria by any significant degree. We are both major powers. My basis for this is that historically Charles/Karl of Sweden desired after the Poltava disaster to salvage a Sweden that would reach borders at where it actually is in this game. The book, which I believe was called Rise of the Great Powers, claimed it would have kept Sweden a major power.
It is easily acceptable that Austria considers the Protestants a nemesis, but if they are anti-Protestant, how can they call the Protestants mad for being anti-Catholic?
I don't say that as some sort of tit-for-tat thing, but because they would understand the sentiment. More plausibly they might call it one of these, with more or less plausibility:
i- Poor realpolitik
ii- A resurgence of the Protestant threat
iii- A token declaration with no real meaning
iv- Might not respond
OOC:
Sweden in this TL is not weaker then Austria by any significant degree. We are both major powers. My basis for this is that historically Charles/Karl of Sweden desired after the Poltava disaster to salvage a Sweden that would reach borders at where it actually is in this game. The book, which I believe was called Rise of the Great Powers, claimed it would have kept Sweden a major power.
It is easily acceptable that Austria considers the Protestants a nemesis, but if they are anti-Protestant, how can they call the Protestants mad for being anti-Catholic?
I don't say that as some sort of tit-for-tat thing, but because they would understand the sentiment. More plausibly they might call it one of these, with more or less plausibility:
i- Poor realpolitik
ii- A resurgence of the Protestant threat
iii- A token declaration with no real meaning
iv- Might not respond
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