What is going on in the UK?

If it was conclusively demonstrated that the political system set up by the colonial power was the principal determining factor in the quality of life of individuals today would you consider that colonial power to have any responsibility for that situation?

No, because those countries have had the opportunity to change the political system they inherited on decolonisation day.

One could even look at the countries and determine which have changed their system and which have not, and which have done well
and which have done worse since independence, and what correlation there is between changing their system and doing better or not.

It is not the countries but the dutch nobel laureates.

My comment was addressed more at another poster.
 
Statistically, it would be interesting to see which crimes are committed more by 23% of the population (the non White British/Irish part), but then we'd also have in cold numbers which crimes are committed more by your average Brit down the pub, and that would never do for the likes of the Fail and the Express, so it would be safer for everyone involved to continue what we're doing and not publish demographic data for the accused.
Like the official statistics ?
You might end up not getting the results you would like, though.
 
Like the official statistics ?
You might end up not getting the results you would like, though.
These are some nice statistics you've pointed at, but not actually said anything.

You make a big deal about how smart you are. Are you able to say something smart about what they show?

Go on. Exorcise some of the loneliness that comes with being at the pinnacle and share some wisdom.
 
Reports and statistics on crime have little bearing on my perception against real atrocities.
We are numbers, it's all about numbers, until it happens to you or someone close to you.
Is it too much to ask for an iron fist against violent crime? 0 tolerance against illegal migrants that already have a rap sheet? Deportations for immigrants that rape?
Why must Europe deal with their own bred criminals plus others from abroad? Why must the natives be subjected to violent crime and murder from people that come from abroad?
Why?
Policy made solely based on emotion never ends well.
 
Policy made solely based on emotion never ends well.
Like the policies of "let them come because we pity them"?
Do we have enough infrastructure in place?
Is the infrastructure resilient enough?
Is it fair for the natives to support welfare for migrants that don't contribute and don't intend to ever do it?
(and yes I know there I migrants that do contribute and I would like to keep them ofc...but it seems now you can't express an idea/concept/opinion without fully disclosing your thought beyond the scope of your intervention lest you want to risk left ire :yeah:)
The policies that allowed this massive influx of migrants in very few years that are degrading natives life was all made on emotion...and the ongoing search for people who will work for a plate of rice.
 
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Like the policies of "let them come because we pity them"?
Remind me when I said that? Oh, that's right, I didn't. Once again, you were the one who said emotions trump statistics:
Reports and statistics on crime have little bearing on my perception against real atrocities.
We are numbers, it's all about numbers, until it happens to you or someone close to you.

and the ongoing search for people who will work for a plate of rice.
Capital will find a way to avoid paying workers as little as possible, if it's not underpaying immigrants, it'll be automation, or simply putting the screws on labor laws in general. The common denominator here is capital, not immigrants.
 
Uk Guv to experiment on veterans to test Digital ID, The Veteran Card for 1.8 million -


More Uk Digital ID on the way before the big fish itself is voted, passed and stamped in to law and made mandatory -

The proof of service, which in its current physical version gives access to charities, retail discounts and certain public services, will be the first of a series of official credentials the government wants to let people carry in a government app.

Digital driving licences
will be in development by the end of this year and by the end of 2027, digital versions of every government-issued credential – including disclosure and barring checks – will be offered for voluntary use, officials said. Keir Starmer wants to make carrying a digital ID mandatory for anyone wanting or needing to prove their right to work in the UK by the end of this parliament.

That plan sparked cross-party opposition and a 2.9 million-signature petition calling for it to be dropped. But the technology secretary, Liz Kendall, this week complained of “scaremongering” and said digital IDs would not be used to track citizens and “there will be no pooling of people’s private information into a single, central dataset”.
 

Government loses bid to block appeal against Palestine Action ban​

The government has failed in its attempt to block a challenge against its decision to ban Palestine Action under terrorism laws.

In a highly significant ruling, the Court of Appeal paved the way for the review of the ban before a High Court judge next month.

The co-founder of Palestine Action, Huda Ammori, had won permission earlier this year for that judicial review of the home secretary's ban.

The Home Office said it would consider the implications of the ruling, but said Palestine Action remained a proscribed group and those who support them will "face the full force of the law".

The ban, which started on 5 July, makes membership of, or support for, the direct action group a criminal offence.

More than 2,100 people have been arrested in demonstrations since it came into effect.

During those protests, they have held up signs reading "I oppose genocide, I support Palestine Action".

Some 170 of the protesters have been charged with allegedly showing support for the group, which can lead to six months in jail.

Ministers tried to stop the judicial hearing from going ahead, arguing that Parliament had set out a specific and alternative process for appealing against banning orders.

Under terrorism laws, any group that is banned by ministers can ask to be "deproscribed" through a complicated internal review by the Home Office. That process that can take months to complete.

If ministers decide the ban should still remain in force, the order can be reconsidered by judges in a special semi-secret court, the Proscribed Organisations Appeal Commission (POAC).

In practice, this means that any group that is banned, but believes it can show it is not involved in terrorism, would spend potentially one year or more fighting its case.

Lawyers for Ms Ammori argued that the unusual circumstances of the group's ban - and the level of public support for the direct action group - meant that process was not fair and the ban should be immediately reviewed by the High Court.

They said Parliament had not explicitly ruled out a faster process to immediately challenge a ban, even though it had created the alternative slower appeal process.

Baroness Sue Carr, the Lady Chief Justice, said Ms Ammori could lawfully bring her challenge to the initial decision to proscribe Palestine Action, rather than have to wait for the outcome of the longer POAC process.

"An application to deproscribe, with a right of appeal to POAC, was not intended to be a means of challenging the initial decision," she said in her ruling on Friday morning.

She said a judicial review would be a "quicker means of challenging the order proscribing Palestine Action, than applying to deproscribe".

"Judicial review would enable the High Court to give an authoritative judgement on whether or not not it was lawful to proscribe Palestine Action.

"That judgment could then be relied on in criminal courts hearing charges against any person arrested in connection with their support of Palestine Action."

A spokesperson for the Home Office said that it noted the Court of Appeal's decision and would now carefully consider the implications.

"Palestine Action has conducted an escalating campaign. This has involved sustained criminal damage, including to Britain's national security infrastructure, as well as intimidation, alleged violence and serious injuries," they said.

"Palestine Action remain a proscribed group and those who support them will face the full force of the law.

"Everyone should remember: supporting Palestine and supporting a proscribed terrorist group are not the same thing."

But Ms Ammori said an attempt by the government to avoid judicial scrutiny had "backfired spectacularly" because the Court of Appeal had also ruled that she could challenge the ban on more grounds than had initially been the case.

"We now head into the judicial review in November with an even stronger legal footing," she said in a statement.

"Arresting peaceful protesters and those disrupting the arms trade is a dangerous misuse of counter-terror resources."

Ms Ammori also won a second related application to expand her case in November. This means she has permission to present wider grounds to the High Court about why she says the ban is unlawful.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce9dg5v43vmo
 
My view on this is that the UK government should not intervene in the local decision unless
it is prepared to commit sufficient police and military to ensure the safety of the fans.
 
The declaration of Keir today was hilarious (quoting from memory):
"It is our most important state duty to protect the fans gathering inside the stadium to watch their favorite ball-pushers"

For sure bro.
You are in charge of an island with 70 million angry humans.
It has to be your primary office to care about football.
 
Birmingham authorities say Tel Aviv football fans not allowed to the Nov. 6 game. Cannot guarantee their safety, etc. Uh huh.
Even the Prime Minister has stepped in to condemn it!

Politicians defending football hooligans, incredible stuff lol
 
Politicians defending football hooligans, incredible stuff lol
Bread and circus...but we, the clowns, are getting tired!
 
Moderator Action: Colonialism posts moved to a new thread.
 
Back to the UK today

It seems that overpopulation and housing shortages have resulted in a large increase in van dwellers in the UK


but the Labour government have promised to build 1.5 million new homes


which I tend to regard as er.... optimism....
 
Back to the UK today

It seems that overpopulation and housing shortages have resulted in a large increase in van dwellers in the UK


but the Labour government have promised to build 1.5 million new homes


which I tend to regard as er.... optimism....

We had a labour government promise something similar. House prices went up even further 20% one year, 20% following year .

Its a dangerous promise as its specific and cant blame anyone if it fails.
 
Welsh-speaking inmates 'told to speak English' in prison

Welsh-speaking inmates have been told to use English by staff at Wales' biggest prison, according to former inmates.

Speaking to researchers at Cardiff and Liverpool universities, ex-prisoners at HMP Berwyn, in Wrexham,"described outright hostility toward the language from staff".

Prisoners in Wales have a right to speak Welsh and HM Prison and Probation Service is committed to "creating a bilingual environment" and to "promote the rights of Welsh speaking prisoners", according to its Welsh language scheme.

But in their research Dr Robert Jones and Dr Gregory Davies claim that "the Welsh language at Berwyn is evidently not treated on the basis of equality with the English language" and "the policing of Welsh by staff at Berwyn emerged as a consistent theme throughout our interviews".

Several individuals said they had been confronted by prison officers when speaking Welsh with fellow prisoners on prison landings and association spaces.

In some instances, they had been asked to explain what had been said, on other occasions, prisoners were instructed by staff to switch to English.

According to one former prisoner, called Gwilym, incidents like these occurred on a "daily basis", others in the report described "outright hostility toward the language from staff".

One interviewee, called Ieuan, told researchers he had been told not to speak Welsh with his solicitor during a meeting that was supposed to be private and confidential.

"I was on videolink with my solicitor and I was speaking Welsh with him, and the officer come in and told me to stop speaking Welsh, or else I'd get done for it. I'd get a nicking for it."

Dr Jones and Dr Davies also state that Welsh-speaking prisoners experienced significant delays when correspondence was written in Welsh.

One former inmate called Hefin told them that his "pad mate, he sent a letter [in English], and it arrived within two, three days".

"My letter [in Welsh] takes two weeks, three weeks, and if not, [it will] go missing.

"It was pathetic. I stopped writing letters in the end."
 
Sir Keir Starmer makes impassioned defence of Prince Andrew

Sir Keir Starmer is facing pressure from the very worst members of parliament to strip Prince Andrew of his royal titles. As you can imagine, the pressure is coming from lefties: the same people who are screeching that the rules should apply to Israel are now arguing the rules should apply to royals. They seem to think everyone should live by the same rules and they aren’t gonna stop until we have a democracy. Flipping lunatics.

Jeremy Corbyn (the number one baddy) thinks we should not refer to Andrew as “Prince”, just because he happens to be a paedophile. Clearly, this is a hate crime and Corbyn must be arrested. Imagine being so poisonous that you would hate a prince just because he has friends who share his passions…

If I can credit Prince Andrew for one thing above all else, he is loyal to his friends. For example, he maintained his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein for years after he had pretended to end it, and even sent the sex trafficker a letter saying “we’re in this together”. If Prince Andrew can show this kind of loyalty, Sir Keir Starmer can do the same. How else would he earn that knighthood?
 
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