What is going on in the UK?

Ah...the typical nothing to see here response.
Any word about the victim?
Yeah I am scared.
An official report by a understaffed migration agency cobbled up after a Socialist government destroyed a migration police says at least 1.5 million migrants reside here.
I assume the real number is at least the double. My country has only 10 million natives...interesting times will get more interesting.
You keep posting articles on individual crimes, instead of studies to determine an overall trend.
 
WTK is happening in the UK, and especially with Labour ? They are rushing full speed ahead toward straight-up dystopian cyberpunk dictatorship, what exactly went through their head ?

They followed your advice to do something about immigration!
 
If there is one positive here it’s that many MPs (the ones who have not been corrupted by the people behind the push for digital IDs) are getting cold feet. One after another, politicians from all parties stood up in parliament to pick holes in Kendall’s plan, presumably because they are realising they would be under surveillance too.

Uk Guv to sweeten up MPs in Digital I.D. Card charm offensive -


Odeon Cinema is now demanding digital ID

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You keep posting articles on individual crimes, instead of studies to determine an overall trend.

Most UK published statistics breakdown crime by victims, not by perpetuators, ethnic or
racial grouping; so it is difficult to ascertain overall trends by various perpetuating groups.

In my opinion this results in people using well publicised incidents and anecdotal reports
from people they know in informing themselves.
 
UKs a more conservative society than rest of Anglosphere.

Not MAGA type levels but overall might be worse than America in a different way.

Conservative, the UK? What are they trying to conserve? The people of the UK are busy destroying the country.
The politicians are totally incompetent. All of them. In different ways but there's not a single group that isn't either failing to stop or actively pushing the country towards collapse.
"Multiculturalism" made worse by a complete abdication of all social in exchange for an egitistical and transactional society (Thatcher started it but no one reversed it since), has transformed the county into a no-trust society. Where there are any communities left inside the country they are no longer seeing themselves as part of one imagined national community but as grups out for their own thing and often specifically against others.
The UK as a county is defunct. It cannot be salvaged. The divisions are too many, the people with some degree still of control no longer care about having a country, there is nothing to start a salvage operation with. It's also obviously going bankrupt.
 
Most UK published statistics breakdown crime by victims, not by perpetuators, ethnic or
racial grouping; so it is difficult to ascertain overall trends by various perpetuating groups.

In my opinion this results in people using well publicised incidents and anecdotal reports
from people they know in informing themselves.
I've noticed that as well when looking things up whenever these sorts of arguments about immigration in the UK happen, though it doesn't make the alternatives any less questionable.

Not to mention the article is textbook ragebait.
 
I've noticed that as well when looking things up whenever these sorts of arguments about immigration in the UK happen, though it doesn't make the alternatives any less questionable.

Not to mention the article is textbook ragebait.
It is only rage bait for those who are already primed for immigrant rage.
 
Crime victimisation stats in England, like basically eveywhere in the developed world and often beyond, are also just trending down and have been for decades, which is not what the outrage merchants want to talk about and not what drives clicks. Crime continues to drop but media and social media coverage of specific anecodes drive peoople to believe that it is not. The phenomenon of universal crime drop is a whole topic of study and research while a number of bad actors continue to convince people of the exact opposite.

These are the English numbers but victim surveys look the same in most countries anyone here lives in:
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Sometimes people (dumb media) try to cite recorded crime for things like domestic and sexual violence, but that's administrative data, only what is reported to and recorded by police. And with only a small fraction of domestic and sexual violence ever reported, recorded crime stats in these areas don't show prevalence but rather reporting, and increased recording of those things almost always indicate improved reporting rate. And of course, it is societies characterised by relatively high trust in institutions, lower levels of social stigma against victims, relatively independent and empowered women, where people are comfortable enough to report and seek support more readily, so those are the ones tend to show the highest reporting rates.

People continually making themselves mad or fearful about crime based on individual incident news reports are basically doing a form of self radicalisation.
 
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Conservative, the UK? What are they trying to conserve? The people of the UK are busy destroying the country.
The politicians are totally incompetent. All of them. In different ways but there's not a single group that isn't either failing to stop or actively pushing the country towards collapse.
"Multiculturalism" made worse by a complete abdication of all social in exchange for an egitistical and transactional society (Thatcher started it but no one reversed it since), has transformed the county into a no-trust society. Where there are any communities left inside the country they are no longer seeing themselves as part of one imagined national community but as grups out for their own thing and often specifically against others.
The UK as a county is defunct. It cannot be salvaged. The divisions are too many, the people with some degree still of control no longer care about having a country, there is nothing to start a salvage operation with. It's also obviously going bankrupt.

The politicians are a reflection of the electorate.
 
@ Arwon

By far the largest category in the charts you posted is fraud.

Well if you want to, use upside down arithmetic and, regard a 31% increase on the previous year as a decline that is up to you.
 
Reports and statistics on crime have little bearing on my perception against real atrocities.
We are numbers, it's all about numbers, until it happens to you or someone close to you.
Is it too much to ask for an iron fist against violent crime? 0 tolerance against illegal migrants that already have a rap sheet? Deportations for immigrants that rape?
Why must Europe deal with their own bred criminals plus others from abroad? Why must the natives be subjected to violent crime and murder from people that come from abroad?
Why?
 
Is it too much to ask for an iron fist against violent crime? 0 tolerance against illegal migrants that already have a rap sheet?
I think it is too much to ask for to have two different law enforcement regimes for different classes of human beings, yes. That is what the blindfold on lady justice is all about.
 
WTK is happening in the UK, and especially with Labour ? They are rushing full speed ahead toward straight-up dystopian cyberpunk dictatorship, what exactly went through their head ?
From the Telegraph he other day

Britain and France are at the end stage of ‘centrist dad’ collapse
Starmer and Macron have become brothers in arms committed to destroying all that is great about their countries


Sir Keir Starmer and Emmanuel Macron are the Don Quixote and Sancho Panza of international politics, the Yin and Yang of European declinism, the clownish poster boys of Western decadence.

The French President is flamboyant, theatrical, Jupiterian and chases after windmills; the British Prime Minister is soporific, plodding, technocratic and more comfortable erecting windfarms. Macron the narcissist offers up faux-macho handshakes and bear hugs; Starmer the backroom apparatchik is more reserved.

Yet both are failing in strikingly similar ways, and appear to be guided by the same perverse playbook. As avatars of their countries’ decline, mocked at home and abroad, wedded to discredited “centrist dad” nostrums, they are the last defenders of an order that will soon be swept away by a tide of populist rage. If they are competing on anything, other than humiliating photo-opps with Donald Trump at Egyptian peace summits they had no role in convening, it is about who will complete the ruination of their country the fastest.

Wrong on almost everything, hated by voters, incapable of truth-telling, driven by a messianic belief in environmentalism and global technocracy, unable to confront reality, gripped by suicidal empathy and addicted to virtue-signalling, Starmer and Macron have ended up as unlikely brothers in arms, despite their seemingly incompatible styles.

Both were elected on a promise of change, yet ended up defending the status quo. Both capitulated to bad actors abroad - Hamas, Algeria in Macron’s case and China in Starmer’s – to collect votes at home. Both are in global retreat – France from Africa, Britain from Chagos – and are failing to bolster their armed forces quickly enough. Both are overseeing an explosion in anti-Semitism, often fuelled by Islamists, and are doing scandalously little about it. Both have lost control of immigration, with eerily similar numbers. Net immigration in the UK was 431,000 in the year to December 2024; France’s Insee reported net immigration of 433,000, taking the total to 7.7 million, or 11.3 per cent of the population, a record, albeit still lower than in the UK.

Starmer and Macron find their countries essentially ungovernable, and refuse to take responsibility. They claimed to be fiscally orthodox, yet put their countries on a path to bankruptcy, with terrifyingly large budget deficits.

Rachel Reeves seems determined to outdo Macron’s calamitous record: France’s national debt has shot up from 11 points above the Eurozone average when the president took office to 25 points today, hitting 116 per cent of GDP. The public sector gobbled up 57 per cent of France’s GDP in 2024; Britain still has a way to go, even if Labour is rapidly socialising the economy and waging war on the private sector with the Employment Rights Bill.

Such mutually assured economic destruction is working: Britain and France are neck-and-neck in the stagnation leagues, with the IMF predicting identically useless per capita growth of 0.4 per cent this year and France edging it slightly at 0.5 to 0.6 per cent next year. It remains to be seen who ends up wearing the dunce’s cap, but Starmer and Macron would be equally deserving recipients.

The idiocy travels both ways. France used to be better than Britain when it comes to housebuilding, and yet Macron has ruined that too. As Luis and Peter Garicano point out in the Silicon Continent Substack, Macron has embraced net zero land development by 2050 (and a fifty per cent cut by 2030) as well as cracking down on second homes and the rental market.

France’s great taboo is retirement at 62, placing an unbearable burden on its working population. Macron tried and failed to reform this, but finally gave up this week. Britain is in a better position on pensions, despite the triple lock and the public sector’s gold-plated deals, but is being dragged down by the obsolete NHS, our own political third rail.

Instead of tackling the underlying malady – the two nations are living beyond their means – Macron and Starmer are considering another destructive gamble this Autumn: a wealth tax. They aren’t acting in concert, but might as well be doing so, such is their apparent desire to chase away their greatest wealth-creators to the US or Middle East.

France won’t impose a full 2 per cent Zucman tax on fortunes worth €100m, as the far-Left advocates, but Sébastien Lecornu, the PM clinging on in Matignon, will reward socialist MPs propping him up with some kind of nasty confiscation.

Reeves will wreak her own destruction in her Budget, perhaps raiding ISAs, capital gains tax, inheritance tax or, worst of all, what passes for expensive property. Here as in so many areas, Starmernomics is becoming indistinguishable from La Macronie.
Britain and France’s destinies have been intertwined since the Norman Conquest, and now, led by historically inadequate leaders, are entering their fin-de-régime together.

Macron hacked the populist moment, creating a party staffed with fresh faces exuding radical vibes but doubled down on nothingness; he is paying the price for having conned the public. He destroyed not just his party but France’s post-1958 constitutional settlement, the Fifth Republic.

A far-Left candidate, fuelled by class war, hate and a belief in open borders, may yet win the presidential election. The most likely outcome, however, is that the Right’s Jordan Bardella will become President (if Marine Le Pen remains disqualified). Would he cope? Would he defeat the Blob? Would his socialist economics overshadow his law and order and immigration reforms, destroying him too? Will France’s mini-revolution, as it transitions to a Sixth Republic, take place peacefully, or will civil war break out?

Britain will take a different path. A Right-wing Government would usher in a restoration, not a revolution, undoing the post-1997 Blairite constitutional atrocities, withdrawing from noxious treaties and reestablishing democratic accountability over civil servants. Nigel Farage and Kemi Badenoch are pro-capitalist; this would be populism with English characteristics (a superior variant). But could a divided Right let in a Labour-led Leftist coalition? I’m still betting on Britain, as I have been for 30 years, but it’s a close call.

 
I think it is too much to ask for to have two different law enforcement regimes for different classes of human beings, yes. That is what the blindfold on lady justice is all about.
Please don't think for once that because I was, in that comment, referring, specifically, to immigration violent crime that I think natives violent crime get a "free pass"!
Please don't cast such a bad faith shadow on what I said because I never intended the twisted meaning you gave my words!
I am very much adamant on justice's iron fist for all forms of violent crime perpetrated by any and all humans!
 
Please don't think for once that because I was, in that comment, referring, specifically, to immigration violent crime that I think natives violent crime get a "free pass"!
Please don't cast such a bad faith shadow on what I said because I never intended the twisted meaning you gave my words!
I am very much adamant on justice's iron fist for all forms of violent crime perpetrated by any and all humans!
You said "0 tolerance against illegal migrants that already have a rap sheet". That indicates that it should be 0 tolerance ONLY against illegal migrants that already have a rap sheet, ie. not zero tolerance if you are not an non-documented migrant or if you gave no prior conviction. That means that lady justice is peaking under her blindfold at the characteristics of the accused.

Feel free to point out the flaw in my reasoning.
 
You said "0 tolerance against illegal migrants that already have a rap sheet". That indicates that it should be 0 tolerance ONLY against illegal migrants that already have a rap sheet, ie. not zero tolerance if you are not an non-documented migrant or if you gave no prior conviction. That means that lady justice is peaking under her blindfold at the characteristics of the accused.

Feel free to point out the flaw in my reasoning.
It's twisting my words. The focus on my comment was immigration crime and as such I never mentioned native crime because I just wasn't thinking about natives crimes when I write about migrants crimes. That will never mean, from me, that natives get a free pass whatsoever regarding criminal activities. Please don't do this!
 
It's twisting my words. The focus on my comment was immigration crime and as such I never mentioned native crime because I just wasn't thinking about natives crimes when I write about migrants crimes. That will never mean, from me, that natives get a free pass whatsoever regarding criminal activities. Please don't do this!
If when you say "0 tolerance against illegal migrants that already have a rap sheet" you actually mean zero tolerance for everyone I think you need to think about your language before telling others how to post.
 
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