Who is/was worst Commie? [Poll]

[amadeus]

Look up Enver Hoxha. He managed to take Europe's poorest country and keep it there.

 

[Fanatic Noob]

I don't know Jaruzelski could be up there but Ulbricht, Gottwald, and Hoxha aren't.

*waits for one particular user to leap to the defense of Ulbricht as a great man and Hoxha as misunderstood...*

Some Poles who know Jaruzelski may say he was worst commie here, as he introduced martial law in Poland in 1980, while I also named few Polish commies which were rather mild, but not Boleslaw Bierut who ruled at the same time as Stalin, and did the same things to Poles, as Stalin for Russians.

 

[Lord of Elves]

Hm... You must be kidding, do you not? And he was also much more before communism was invented. And as King of Poland he is Monarch rather than commie.

I like the "before communism was invented". It seems to imply a line of thought in which that if you lit a match to oil before anyone thought of using oil to fuel machinery there would be no fire.

 

[Fanatic Noob]

For sure I know what you mean, but communism ideology was based about proletariat thing and on hard conditions of workers in factories.

 

[W|M]

Look up Enver Hoxha. He managed to take Europe's poorest country and keep it there.

Kim Jong Il got a poor country and made it poorer. Both were/are Stalinist anyway, so they both sucked.

 

[gangleri2001]

No Pol Pot?

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

I don't think anyone failed harder than Pol Pot. Was he just stupid, just evil, or both?

 

[Karalysia]

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

True, people who rebel against Communist regimes are the worst Communists.

 

[Brian Shanahan]

I don't know Jaruzelski could be up there but Ulbricht, Gottwald, and Hoxha aren't.

*waits for one particular user to leap to the defense of Ulbricht as a great man and Hoxha as misunderstood...*

Well Ulbricht was great look at his spiffy goatee, and of course Hoxha would be misunderstood, you would be too if you spoke Albanian.


Yeah, I've got nothing. Both of them were not very good, either as commies or people.

But I'm suprised I'm not on the list. It's a well known fact that I love my private possessions to give them up, despite my beliefs.

 

[Fanatic Noob]

But how it is topic related Karalysia Girl? Also I would not call any ret%%d like this who work for UK as a Pole. So I say sorry, but not in this thread please!

 

[Tani Coyote]

None of them besides Marx were Communists!

Seriously, and not engaging in that ridiculous semantics war that annoys me to all Hell, Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot are the worst, simply because they were all butchers. Stalin does get some kudos for his victory at all costs platform though.

 

[amadeus]

Well, the Nazis ran on a similar platform but couldn't compete with the massive manpower of the USSR and economic power of the United States.

 

[W|M]

Seriously, and not engaging in that ridiculous semantics war that annoys me to all Hell, Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot are the worst, simply because they were all butchers. Stalin does get some kudos for his victory at all costs platform though.

Stalin killed the most.

 

[Ajidica]

Stalin killed the most.

I thought it was Mao, a combination of his 'Great Leap Forward', the Long March, and the Cultural Revolution?

 

[Karalysia]

If we're looking at it in terms of % of population and greatest damage inflicted on a country it would have to be Saloth Sar. Cambdia still hasn't really recovered from the Khmer Rouge and assorted issues. China and Russia are doing pretty well for themselves overall.

 

[civver_764]

Pol Pot was so bad fellow communist Vietnam took him out.

 

[Traitorfish]

I might say Mao. He took a very deformed version of an already deformed version of Marxism and inflicted it unevenly, incompetently and autocratically upon a huge, under-prepared country, killing millions in the process. Whether you consider him a fool or a villain, there's few who have done as much damage as him.

Marx, because he started it, but didn't do a good enough job to give a proper road map to his followers.

Given that most of the problems arose from wilful and concious deviations from the road-maps that he actually drew, I would suggest that it is more complicated than that.

Um, where the hell is Pol Pot.

Poll fail.

Is Pol Pot even a commie, really? He pretty much had his own nutjob scheme which as best tangentially related to anything Marx ever wrote.

Kim Jong Il got a poor country and made it poorer. Both were/are Stalinist anyway, so they both sucked.

Actually, the North Koreans excised any references to Marxism from their constitution in the early '90s. Now they are officially Juche, and Juche alone.

 

[cardgame]

inb4 "none of them were true commies"

Also surprised about the lack of Pol Pot.

I'd have to say Mao was the worst commie, though.

 

[Traitorfish]

inb4 "none of them were true commies"

There's a difference between failing to bring about Socialism and not being a Socialist.