I think smart candidates will stress improving health care for all as a major campaign effort. I would not focus on one particular plan, but on making sure everybody has some coverage. I think flexibility would be important.
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Sure. And a lot of shameless shills will insist that deepening privatisation is the best way.
I'm not sure that we can blame 'Muricans voting for the people they usually vote on beer.
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I truly worry M4A will become the hill Sanders dies on. I think it's one of the best options, but I also think it's one of the least politically viable. If Sanders does not acknowledge the apprehension of many Americans and show some way to connect with them and assuage those fears, or otherwise show a capacity to compromise on M4A, then this issue will overall hurt rather than help him in the general election.
Sanders has to prove his idea will work and not make things worse for the middle class in order to win over many voters. Trump just has to say he can or already has fixed healthcare and he gets an automatic 30-40% share of the electorate.
One way help would be to declare that keeping people safe an testing for the virus should come at government expense regardless of insurance status. that is the role of effective government.
That's simply not true. Not a single poll in this entire election cycle has shown Biden 40 points ahead. Through mid-2019 (e.g. June, July) there were a number of polls showing him up by between 20 and 30 points. From November to December he was ahead on polling average by 20 points, narrowing to 15 points in January and 5 points in more recent weeks. But the polling average lead has now blown out to 15 points again. If he wins by that sort of margin, it will show that he has come back from a much tighter polling position, despite his apparent lack of momentum. If he wins by 20 points of more, he will likely become the national vote and delegate leader.
The 538 forecast currently has him winning Texas, North Carolina, Virginia, Tennessee, Alabama, Oklahoma, and Arkansas on Super Tuesday. By contrast, Sanders is ahead in 6 contests. The 'narrative' coming out of Super Tuesday will likely focus on how many states a candidate wins.
That forecast takes into account the assumed win by Biden in South Carolina. But if he over-performs the expected percentage, those chances will go up.
Overall, his current chances of securing a plurality of delegates are 16%, compared with 32% for Sanders.
Which is not to say that this will happen; but rather than it is simply false to say his campaign is not viable. He is the chief opponent to Sanders at the moment, and the gap isn't as large as the 3 results so far would suggest.
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North Charleston, South Carolina (CNN)President Donald Trump suggested his supporters in South Carolina cast their primary ballots for Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders during his rally Friday, the second straight Democratic primary in which he's suggested his supporters get involved.
Can we put to rest the absurd notion that Trump fears running against Sanders?
Can we put to rest the absurd notion that Trump fears running against Sanders?
Or... he's setting up a claim that Sanders isn't as strong a candidate as everyone thinks, because he helped Bernie win the Dem nomination.
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Yeah, I'm pretty much totally over the whole three dimensional chess bit. Trump lies about who he would rather face when he's just blathering, but when it comes down to exhorting his lemmings the truth comes out.
On top of it there's actually a Democrat in SC with a well put together and well funded senate campaign ready to run against Lindsey Graham who has better than the usual snowball's chance of winning in November...unless Sanders is at the top of the ticket in which case his campaign is basically DOA. So once again I find myself at "not campaigning in the primaries and will support whoever the nominee turns out to be, but I really hope it isn't Sanders."
I'm honestly curious. We've seen all the polls, apparently at least a few of them respectably accurate, that show Bernie beating Trump head-to-head. Why are we ignoring those?
Why would he push them to intercede on behalf of anyone but the (national) frontrunner, given that "helping" someone that doesn't win is #1 a waste of effort and #2 would belie the effectiveness of his "help"?
Because polls rise and fall with the tide. Some of them have them within 3% to 5% with small numbers of pollees. That is not something to springboard off from, really. It just shows there's a bit more who'll prefer Sanders over Trump, but honestly that's not good enough. Sanders needs to be loved and in the 10+ range.
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If Biden wins SC, which seems likely, his help for Sanders is a failure, which I personally would be glad to throw in his face.
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Tim, Bernie is the only one who repeatedly wins against Trump and you know it. But you are delusional, remember how well it worked for you in 2016? Man, you are so caught in your own world, its crazy
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Because neither Trump nor the RNC has started campaigning against him. There are reasons to believe that his polling is soft and once the clips of him being the self declared socialist are running 24/7 he's dead in a general election. There is very little doubt that Trump believes that, and zero doubt that the RNC is banking on it to hold the senate.
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Really? Repeatedly? How many times did Trump run for senate in Vermont?
Try facts, lest your next post makes you look even sillier.
Ah, I didn't realize you were referring to SC specifically.
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He said it at a rally in South Carolina and was talking about the SC primary. He's nominally campaigning even though running unopposed, but is now two for two in states where GOP voters can vote in the Dem primary on urging them to vote for Sanders.
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I am sure the clips of dementia-ridden Biden, by contrast, will have no effect on the electorate. After all, no one has an issue with voting for someone who is insane.
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