2020 US Election (Part One)

[Takhisis]

I consider all robocalls spam, too, but if some are let through and others aren't then it's obvious there's a bias.

 

[stinkubus]

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A little late since my last paycheck was short due to a clerical error by my employer.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I consider all robocalls spam, too, but if some are let through and others aren't then it's obvious there's a bias.

Agreed, but there's no reliable indication that the bias is anything other than "this clever robocaller gets through while this less clever robocaller gets blocked." It is distinctly possible that one candidate has hired people who know how to write an e-mail that will not get parsed as spam where another candidate has not.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Meanwhile an ABC reporter (If I remember the station correctly) got suspended for saying he supported Sanders. And Tim and company will still laugh at any suggestion of this obvious bias

https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...4efc06-5849-11ea-9b35-def5a027d470_story.html

OK so I read the article you linked where you accused @Timsup2nothin of being poised to start "laughing" etc at your claims... and the article doesn't actually contain the word "Sanders" or "Bernie" at all. Nowhere in the article does it mention the reporter saying he supported Sanders, let alone him getting fired for it. TBH the article doesn't seem to be about the subject you mentioned at all. From the article:

ABC News suspended one of its veteran correspondents late Tuesday for unguarded remarks he made in a video by operatives of Project Veritas, the conservative group that records “undercover” footage of mainstream journalists to bolster its accusations of media bias.The network disciplined David Wright, who reports for ABC’s signature news programs, including “World News Tonight,” “Good Morning America” and “Nightline,” several people confirmed late Tuesday. The choppy, poorly shot video, released Wednesday morning by Project Veritas, captured Wright on what appeared to be a hidden camera, seeming to complain in general terms about political coverage. “I don’t think we’re terribly interested in voters,” he said, echoing gripes about the superficiality of some aspects of White House and campaign coverage that have been raised by journalists for decades. Also: “Commercial imperative is incompatible with news.”

So it does not seem like he got suspended for what you are claiming he did. The only thing in the article I could find that even remotely connects to what you are saying is this:

In the video, which the group said was taken while Wright covered the New Hampshire primary, a voice asks the reporter if he considers himself “a Democratic socialist,” and Wright seems to reply, “more than that, I consider myself a socialist.”

But even then, that's a pretty big stretch, since that's not even why they suspended him.

My point isn't that there is not or hasn't ever been anti-Bernie bias... Heck I've pointed some of it out myself... My point is that this particular bias that you're claiming and goading Tim about doesn't seem to be accurate... so ironically, I wouldn't be too suprised for Tim to be delivering you some well deserved "laughing" over it.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

In my mind all political email is spam.

I get email responses from my Congresscritters about the letters I have sent them via resistbot. They also periodically update me on what is going on in DC. So not all spam!

 

[Estebonrober]

OK so I read the article you linked where you accused @Timsup2nothin of being poised to start "laughing" etc at your claims... and the article doesn't actually contain the word "Sanders" or "Bernie" at all. Nowhere in the article does it mention the reporter saying he supported Sanders, let alone him getting fired for it. TBH the article doesn't seem to be about the subject you mentioned at all. From the article: So it does not seem like he got suspended for what you are claiming he did. The only thing in the article I could find that even remotely connects to what you are saying is this: But even then, that's a pretty big stretch, since that's not even why they suspended him.

My point isn't that there is not or hasn't ever been anti-Bernie bias... Heck I've pointed some of it out myself... My point is that this particular bias that you're claiming and goading Tim about doesn't seem to be accurate... so ironically, I wouldn't be too suprised for Tim to be delivering you some well deserved "laughing" over it.

what was the given reason for his suspension again? I can't read the article and if its not for slamming ABC and other venues for being bad a t news these days then what was the reason? He's pointing out the obvious problem we have these days of corporate run media. HE should have been promoted. WTH.

 

[cardgame]

Pointing out that commercialization of news makes for bad journalism is like arguing for a union on the jobsite. Doesn't matter how true it is, management does not approve and will be a dick about it.

 

[Estebonrober]

Pointing out that commercialization of news makes for bad journalism is like arguing for a union on the jobsite. Doesn't matter how true it is, management does not approve and will be a dick about it.

Yea you are not wrong, I'm just saying we don't have to continue accepting "norms" like this, frankly the best journalism seems to be coming from "The Intercept" and "ProPublica" both of which do not follow normal funding sources right?

 

[Berzerker]

Link? I'm not doubting what you say, as a matter of fact I actually heard his long and detailed apology live on the radio either yesterday or the day before. I actually rewound it to make sure I heard correctly that he was actually apologizing to Bernie for what he said... I figured that he called Bernie's win a "Blitzkrieg" based on the context. Is that what it was?

Yes, I suppose the dominating way he won would fit the comparison to the blitzkrieg but it aint like he snuck attack or surprised his opponents. Chuck Todd called Sanders' supporters 'brownshirts' so the Nazi hyperbole was flying at MSNBC.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Yes, I suppose the dominating way he won would fit the comparison to the blitzkrieg but it aint like he snuck attack or surprised his opponents. Chuck Todd called Sanders' supporters 'brownshirts' so the Nazi hyperbole was flying at MSNBC.

Thanks

what was the given reason for his suspension again? I can't read the article and if its not for slamming ABC and other venues for being bad a t news these days then what was the reason? He's pointing out the obvious problem we have these days of corporate run media. HE should have been promoted. WTH.

Correct.

Pointing out that commercialization of news makes for bad journalism is like arguing for a union on the jobsite. Doesn't matter how true it is, management does not approve and will be a dick about it.

Also correct.

 

[ThERat]

So, what do you all think will happen in SC? Biden clear winner, Biden narrow winner or Bernie winning it? I am hoping it will be a close race, good enough for Super Tuesday.

 

[amadeus]

Biden polls high in SC but will he get the turnout given that his performance has been so lackluster in other states? I see him winning within a 8-10 pt margin over Sanders but hardly seems like it will give the momentum to carry him through Super Tuesday.

The real question to me is where do Buttigieg and Warren go from here if Steyer places a reasonable 3rd?

 

[Hrothbern]

How will Corona influence the vote ?

Re Trump:
Trump denies so far that there is a real problem. Which is kind of weird since he is a known germophobe.


But more important taking effect on Trump and competitors of Sanders:
the current healthcare with many uninsured or junk insured will not help infected poor people to get tested on being infected, which will result in out of control infection points badly traceable and therefore bad containment.
The minimum needed now to contain is making tests free of charge.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

How will Corona influence the vote ?

Unknown. Certainly won't help.

Word on the street* is that Biden needs to get a victory margin 12-14% to stay competitive. If he gets anything less than a ~5% victory margin, it will be seen as a borderline loss. There is also an argument that even if Biden does get his 12-14% victory margin, this still helps Sanders because it likely means that Biden is crowding out Bloomberg. Is Bloomberg even on this ballot?

*PBS - speaking of, they pointed out that Bloomberg has spent $100m on ads in Super Tuesday states, Biden less than a million. Biden has only one office in all of California and when a reporter went to visit it and check it out, it was padlocked

 

[amadeus]

There is also an argument that even if Biden does get his 12-14% victory margin, this still helps Sanders because it likely means that Biden is crowding out Bloomberg. Is Bloomberg even on this ballot?

Bloomberg is not on the South Carolina primary ballots; his first appearance will be on Super Tuesday.

Rather than crowding out Bloomberg, I thought a Biden victory would do more to hurt Buttigieg than Sanders. Like Sanders, Buttigieg has placed in the top 3 in IA, NH, and NV.

Warren, Combsalad, and Biden have only finished in the top 3 once.

 

[uppi]

A viable Biden campaign is bad for both Buttigieg and Bloomberg, because their best path to victory would be the other right-leaning candidates dropping out. It's probably worse for Buttigieg, because he cannot buy as many ads.

But it also increases the chances of a contested convention, so it also hurts Sanders a little.

 

[Kyriakos]

There's no such thing as a viable Biden campaign. To put things into perspective, a few weeks ago Biden was supposedly to win SC by 40 points. Look at him now - he will do ok to just win.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

There's no such thing as a viable Biden campaign. To put things into perspective, a few weeks ago Biden was supposedly to win SC by 40 points. Look at him now - he will do ok to just win.

A Biden win today indicates a very good chance that he wins a bunch of states on Tuesday that have similar demographics and wakes up Wednesday Morning running a strong second place. That probably knocks out at least one of the not really contenders from the main lane. Go ahead and hope, but don't let hope turn into pretending.

 

[Birdjaguar]

How will Corona influence the vote ?

Re Trump:
Trump denies so far that there is a real problem. Which is kind of weird since he is a known germophobe.


But more important taking effect on Trump and competitors of Sanders:
the current healthcare with many uninsured or junk insured will not help infected poor people to get tested on being infected, which will result in out of control infection points badly traceable and therefore bad containment.
The minimum needed now to contain is making tests free of charge.

Come on, that's not the American way. The healthcare industry has to make money in this or they will not have the resources to support Republicans in Nov. And if lots of poor people get sick and or die, they won't vote in November. Thanks Obama.

 

[Hrothbern]

Come on, that's not the American way. The healthcare industry has to make money in this or they will not have the resources to support Republicans in Nov. And if lots of poor people get sick and or die, they won't vote in November. Thanks Obama.

smile
yes
And who knows what happens with access to polling stations in November when after a summer decline of Corona (like with the flu) it would double back in late autumn (because more people are infected by then outside current clusters)

But how do you think it will have effect between Sanders and the other Dem candidates ?