China Attacks Scenarios

[Takhisis]

But there were OVER NINE THOUSAND casualties.

 

[Borachio]

A lot of those injuries were self-inflicted. And most of the others are accounted for by British people getting lost, and blindly stumbling about (it was France, after all) as soon as they got off the ferry at Calais. Such casualties are high even today.

 

[bugwar]

The world really is a different place now than it was in the early 1900s. If China became openly hostile to its neighbors or the US somehow saw fit to pre-emptively strike China, the war would be short and not all that destructive. One reason for this would be most nations (including the potential belligerants in this conflict) have a pretty healthy anti-war movement that would spring to life if a major war was about to start. I think the protests would be significant enough in both the US and China to pressure both governments to find a diplomatic solution to the situation.

I also think most nations that are not directly involved in the fighting would flat out condemn the war. Some of the more powerful and influential ones might even threaten one or both sides with severe economic sanctions and trade embargos if a peaceful resolution to the conflict is not found. I think post-Cold War humanity has come to value wealth and economic stability more than national pride; and a war between China and the US really threatens that stability for the entire world. In fact, state-on-state warfare in general is a threat to the global economy which is why modern governments try so hard to avoid open warfare. Back in 1914 nations still had a lot to gain by attempting to conquer their neighbors militarily. In 2014 however, military conquest is actually detrimental to any nation's interests because of the backlash from the international community.

Ya know, didn't they say the same things back in 1901?
Just substitute European power blocks for the Red Chinese/U.S. alliances.

 

[Takhisis]

What allies does China really have?

 

[Gucumatz]

North Korea. Sort of... If you want to call that an ally

 

[FriendlyFire]

It's not just on this forum though. Americans in general seem extremely fascinated with the idea of going to war with China. So much so in fact, that it is quite disturbing. Instead of having all these ridiculous war fantasies, we should be trying to find ways to de-escalate the tensions in the region so war becomes less likely.

War President Palin has a nice ring to it.
Maybe the USA will find a way to goto war with China and Russia at the same time. (and the middle east again)

 

[cav scout]

So your contention is that the Chinese fighter deliberately struck the P3 Orion, and which the pilot unsurprisingly died as a direct result?

That is not my contention. I suspect the Chinese pilot was trying a bit too hard and accidently rammed into the Orion. His recklessness cost him his life while also endangering the American air crew.

Ramming can be a deliberate tactic though.

What allies does China really have?

Pakistan

 

[Formaldehyde]

What allies does China really have?

You mean like the US, Walmart, Apple, and hundreds of other Fortune 500 companies? Did you know that China holds by far more US Treasury securities than any other country? That it is now up to $1.3 Trillion?

That is not my contention. I suspect the Chinese pilot was trying a bit too hard and accidently rammed into the Orion. His recklessness cost him his life while also endangering the American air crew.

Then perhaps you should have used at least a half dozen verbs instead that don't insinuate that it was intentional.

And at least you apparently admit that you are just speculating here with no actual evidence.

 

[Commodore]

Ya know, didn't they say the same things back in 1901?
Just substitute European power blocks for the Red Chinese/U.S. alliances.

Yeah, but this time it is actually more true than it was a century ago. I'm not so naïve to think a large scale state-on-state war is impossible, but I do think it is a lot more unlikely than a century ago. Since the end of the Cold War, major powers have been using their businessmen a lot more than they use their armies to achieve long-term strategic goals.

 

[Traitorfish]

Honest first thought on reading the thread title: "Wait, where are the Scenarios again? Are they near the Phillipines?"

I don't do much of my best thinking before noon.

 

[Glassfan]

You mean like the US, Walmart, Apple, and hundreds of other Fortune 500 companies? Did you know that China holds by far more US Treasury securities than any other country? That it is now up to $1.3 Trillion?

Numerous Formaldehydes had predicted the Great War unlikely because it would be unafordable. And many US firms were deeply invested in NAZI Germany until December, 1941. It seems to me however, that economics are not a primary consideration. Leaders decide first to go to war (or don't have a choice), then they figure out the trivial details like justifying it, paying for it, etc.

Honest first thought on reading the thread title: "Wait, where are the Scenarios again? Are they near the Phillipines?"

Just so. Foreigners have such funny names. But I just read a newsblip about how the Virginia House will change the geography school-maps from Sea of Japan to the "Eastern Sea". We Yanks can dumb-down anything.

 

[Takhisis]

North Korea. Sort of... If you want to call that an ally

I assume they can just throw themselves in the path of 'Murican bullets at the command of the Glorious Leader.

War President Palin has a nice ring to it.

Better than President Quayle…

You mean like the US, Walmart, Apple, and hundreds of other Fortune 500 companies? Did you know that China holds by far more US Treasury securities than any other country? That it is now up to $1.3 Trillion?

Given that money is a fiction and to the winner go the spoils…

Numerous Formaldehydes had predicted the Great War unlikely because it would be unafordable. And many US firms were deeply invested in NAZI Germany until December, 1941. It seems to me however, that economics are not a primary consideration. Leaders decide first to go to war (or don't have a choice), then they figure out the trivial details like justifying it, paying for it, etc.

Just look at the unnecessary wars in Iraq or Afghanistan…

Honest first thought on reading the thread title: "Wait, where are the Scenarios again? Are they near the Phillipines?"

I don't do much of my best thinking before noon.

Just so. Foreigners have such funny names. But I just read a newsblip about how the Virginia House will change the geography school-maps from Sea of Japan to the "Eastern Sea". We Yanks can dumb-down anything.

You don't just try, you really do.

 

[cav scout]

Then perhaps you should have used at least a half dozen verbs instead that don't insinuate that it was intentional.

And at least you apparently admit that you are just speculating here with no actual evidence.

Slow your roll there, highspeed.

I wasn't insinuating or trying to prove anything, just saying this was an incident which increased tensions. Did you not get that in the context of my post? Seems you are just spoiling for a fight.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Like I said, there are far better verbs. Using "ram" instead of "collide" is an excellent example of how to "increase tensions", much less speculating that it was the fault of the Chinese pilot.

 

[Cryopyre]

China would have no reason or gain to attack the USA in the modern political climate.

In 20-30 years who can say?

I would make this prediction:

America "recession" deepens
Socialist power rises in the USA
Government cedes power to the military to crush populists
Fascist elements rise to power within the USA as a political opposition to socialists
Government ultimately sides with fascist elements

Meanwhile

Chinese economy strengthens
Tries to tighten claim over Taiwan
Begins to gain air and naval strength in the region

Who can really say though? We can see political trends, but the ultimate spark will be resources.

 

[Light Cleric]

Like I said, there are far better verbs. Using "ram" instead of "collide" is an excellent example of how to "increase tensions", much less speculating that it was the fault of the Chinese pilot.

Nitpicking a single word in someone's post is an excellent example of how to avoid replying to responses to you aimed at challenging your assertions What's your point?

 

[Traitorfish]

Yeah, thinking about stuff is for communists, also gays.