Narz
keeping it real
Dunno for sure but I've been exposed to all 3 variants
Coronavirus 12: Don't Abandon Hope
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Thorgalaeg
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In fact there are countless variants:
https://cov-lineages.org/lineage_list.html
WHO has baptized with greek letters only a handful which are specially abundant or concerning.
https://cov-lineages.org/lineage_list.html
WHO has baptized with greek letters only a handful which are specially abundant or concerning.
Neither natural immunity nor the vaccines do sufficiently well against the contagiousness of Omicron. We have evolved a strain that's resistant to the immunity we've already generated, just like the antivaxxed predicted. Of course, the same strain was possible in societies with 'natural immunity' and the vaccinated didn't suffer Delta nearly as bad as the unvaccinated. So, AFAICT, the antivax rhetoric didn't buy any progress against their threat (a future penetrative strain) but did allow people to suffer from Delta more than necessary.
I will point out that we weren't able to handle a simple step-change in contagiousness. If Omicron had been the original strain, the entire globe would be crying under the strain in ways we just cannot imagine.
This is still potentially our last pandemic on 'easy mode'.
I will point out that we weren't able to handle a simple step-change in contagiousness. If Omicron had been the original strain, the entire globe would be crying under the strain in ways we just cannot imagine.
This is still potentially our last pandemic on 'easy mode'.
Thorgalaeg
Deity
Do you think future pandemics are going to be worse?
I think they could be. I want to re-emphasize that regardless of the Wuhan lab, Osama bin Laden could have make covid-19 on purpose if he had his resources today. I think that we've shown that we cannot handle a single step-change in infectivity, virulence, or initial biodistribution without global catastrophe.
This is a quick version of the thesis. There are extended interviews I'd recommend.
Narz
keeping it real
Damn I caught a coronavirus
Thorgalaeg
Deity
It is either a coronavirus or an antiship mine. In any case you are screwed.
90% of this post is a 'bravo' to the above.
10% of this post is to point out (again) how bonkers India is in the data.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/
The Delta wave plus their current 50% at 'fully vaccinated' just makes everything super interesting. Omicron is now hitting, so we'll see if their ~98.5% survival rate continues or if it de-correlates with intensely faster spread.
10% of this post is to point out (again) how bonkers India is in the data.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/
The Delta wave plus their current 50% at 'fully vaccinated' just makes everything super interesting. Omicron is now hitting, so we'll see if their ~98.5% survival rate continues or if it de-correlates with intensely faster spread.
amadeus
Serenity now
Has anything close to a random sample been taken of people and their respective immunities/vaccination status? As much as we’re seeing an increase in positive cases with omicron, we’re also not seeing the people that don’t get sick.
Berzerker
Deity
mortality rates for people in England and Wales
for 0-64 where covid was the cause of death as opposed to a contributing factor only about 3,500 people died, >64 the number was 13,000+ and the average age was over 81
so about 17k people died from covid
Berzerker
Deity
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/tran...foi/covid19deathsandautopsiesfeb2020todec2021
254 people in my age group died from covid as opposed to people dying with covid
254 people in my age group died from covid as opposed to people dying with covid
“A death where covid-19 is the only cause” is not synonymous with “dying from covid as opposed to dying with covid”.
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Berzerker
Deity
it is for people trying to track down their risk
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I think we wants to point out that there are more people who probably died due to a combination of illnesses.
But that was anyways what your post was based on (right), so not sure what Zelig's getting at
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But that was anyways what your post was based on (right), so not sure what Zelig's getting at
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amadeus
Serenity now
Dismissing comorbidities is as misleading as including things like car wrecks in the number of deaths. Besides that, I do not measure coronavirus damage by the numbers of deaths alone: there are also long-term effects on seemingly many, and even if one fully recovers after x time it is still not something I want.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I can always just add more logos until no one notices.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I can always just add more logos until no one notices.
Berzerker
Deity
What if you dont have comorbidities?
Berzerker
Deity
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-01-booster-shots-omicron-cdc.html
well thats great, I'm 5 months out and they recommend the booster for me
but I do have a question
does symptomatic infection do a more thorough job of teaching the immune system to respond to related bugs in the future?
well thats great, I'm 5 months out and they recommend the booster for me
but I do have a question
does symptomatic infection do a more thorough job of teaching the immune system to respond to related bugs in the future?
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