NOTW L: The Immortals [Game Thread]

[Frozen In Ice]

I am surprised by the sudden outpouring of suspicion towards me considering I haven't received much more than a hint of it before today. I have no idea how to respond however considering much of the suspicion towards me seems to be over vague "scumminess". Would anyone be so considerate to expand upon their accusations against me? Considering my life is on the line that is certainly the least you could do.

 

[Visorslash]

He claimed that his VC is cartharsis surviving.

 

[Visorslash]

Frozen, top three scum leans, go.

 

[Frozen In Ice]

If there is a rogue vampire, its likely FII/Choxorn/TBK.

What makes you think I am a rogue vampire? I did what you asked me last night, and I already explained that I previously fed on the three Sheaim and why I did so (my personal goal).

 

[Sprig]

The Vampire King was delighted by the sudden surge of interest in finding the evil parties. "I would like to thank the Adventurer in inquiring where my Death Mana Orb has gone. I have had my Servants tear my room apart to look for it but alas it has not been found. I can not say if it has been taken from me or destroyed, I am afraid."

 

[Zack]

Vote: Verarde

Screw you.

 

[Catharsis]

{OOC: just looking back through the thread to get an idea of who should go in Visorslash's list - people should participate in this BTW - and found this post from myself on Day 2:

The adventurer is sitting, hunched over some parchment, quill in hand. He writes with the careful and considered hand of the seasoned mapmaker, albeit with the occasional twitch of one who has in his time had to pen a few ransom letters under extreme duress, sometimes from orcs.

I'M JUST SPENDING A BIT OF TIME TALLYING UP THE ACCUSATIONS FROM THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, BECAUSE AS WELL AS MY BRAWN, MY BRAWN, MY AMAZING HAIR AND OF COURSE MY MIGHTY BRAWN, I ALSO HAVE BRAINS TO SPARE!!!!!

SO FAR THE VOTE THAT STANDS OUT THE MOST AS BEING UNUSUAL IS THIS ONE:

[Backwards Logic vote was here]

THE SITUATION AT THAT POINT WAS: NINTZ 2, CHOXORN 2, A BUNCH OF OTHERS (NOT INCLUDING FROZEN) 1, ROBBIECON 4.

BOTH FROZEN AND CHOXORN VOTED FOR ROBBIECON ON SIMILARLY WEAK REASONING.

BACKWARDS LOGIC COULD HAVE PUT A LOT OF PRESSURE ON CHOXORN, BY PLACING A VOTE AGAINST HIS NAME. INSTEAD, HE WASTED IT ON FROZEN, WHO WAS IN NO DANGER OF BEING LYNCHED.

SO ROBBIE WAS LYNCHED, AS YOU KNOW. THE FOLLOWING DAY, BACKWARDS LOGIC WAS STRAIGHT OUT OF THE BLOCKS - WITH A VOTE FOR CHOXORN, NOW SAFE FROM IMMEDIATE DANGER. (HE REMOVED THAT VOTE SOON AFTERWARDS.)

BACKWARDS'S VOTE WAS ONE WITH NO CONVICTION. WHETHER THIS IS BECAUSE HE IS SOMEHOW 'IN LEAGUE' WITH CHOXORN, OR, MORE LIKELY IN MY EYES, IF HE SIMPLY WANTED TO BE SEEN TO BE AGAINST A LATE-DAY BANDWAGON WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING TO SET IT OFF COURSE, I DON'T KNOW. EITHER WAY, HE DESERVES MY INITIAL VOTE FOR TODAY AND I WOULD QUITE LIKE TO KNOW WHAT HIS REASONING WAS. AND WHAT HE'S CURRENTLY THINKING, TOO. SO FAR HE'S BEEN VOTING THE OCCASIONAL MANA TO HIMSELF AND ARGUING WITH ASKTHEPIZZAGUY, BOTH RATHER EASY THINGS TO DO!!!!

Bolded part is the important bit.

Frozen claims to want war with the Sheaim. He had a golden opportunity on Day 2 to put Nintz, who in hindsight was flinching pretty hard following the bedwetting accusation, ahead in the vote. Nintz is the Sheaim Knight.

Instead he voted - nay, led a bandwagon on - robbiecon, a Glevum (i.e. not Sheaim) thus sabotaging his own secondary goal.

He must've had a pretty good reason for not voting Nintz, but he didn't give it in the thread. FROZEN AND NINTZ ON A SCUM TEAM TOGETHER MAYBE?????????

My initial vote goes to Frozen In Ice. Still reading the thread to get an idea of the best top 3 leads, but my initial choices would be (1) Frozen/Nintz (listed as one suspicion because if one's innocent, I've got nothing on the other so far) (2) Winston (lame metagame reason - inactive scums are often replaced) (3) tempted to put The Black Knigh here because he seems to be claiming some sort of 'mana expert' role but so far has put forward nothing about mana that I (or any other player) could not have discerned by simply having a lot of mana shown to me - does he actually do anything?}

 

[Verarde]

My top three sssssscumssssss:

1. ATPG
2. Choxssssorn
3. Frozen

I have been cooperating with you, Visssssorssssslasssssh, and I cooperated with BSsssssssmith before hisssss untimely death. ATPG isssss losssst, in my opinion, and hissss wordssss reek of evil.

 

[Zack]

Verarde is not nearly as good of a lynch as Askthepizzaguy. I'm not sure if I buy your role, (OOC: especially considering the end result last time you were part of a Lover's team).

 

[Nintz]

OOC: Having difficulties staying up on this. If you are specifically looking for information from me, feel free to PM me to get the info faster.

IC: We are beginning to have serious issues. 3 dead innocents in one night is ridiculous. If Visorslash is not lying to us, and he did in fact orchestrate the whole situation, he ought to be more prudent with his killing orders.

In response to Catharsis' suspicions that I might be working with Frozen in Ice as scum, I am innocent of this accusation. I am not scum, nor have I collaborated with Frozen in Ice during this progression of affairs. I do not know why he lead a robbiecon bandwagon some days ago, unless he is in fact scum with choxorn, who was also at 2 votes at the time.

If asked who my top scum nominations are, it would be (in no particular order):

1. Frozen In Ice/choxorn, for the same basic reasoning as Catharsis had for the Frozen In Ice/Nintz possibility.

2. spaceman98. He is still active, yet seems to be flying far under the radar. I have heard nothing of him, and have not seen serious arguments which he was a part of this far. It makes me suspicious, though I have no hard evidence against him.

3. Visorslash. This one depends on the outcome of the kills he called for tonight. If kill fire and johnhughtom are innocent then he will have arranged the deaths of four innocents. Not sometihng that can be overlooked I think.

I have reason to believe that Winston Hughes is innocent (PM for more), so do not feel he is a good lynch candidate.

 

[Zack]

In response to Catharsis' suspicions that I might be working with Frozen in Ice as scum, I am innocent of this accusation. I am not scum, nor have I collaborated with Frozen in Ice during this progression of affairs. I do not know why he lead a robbiecon bandwagon some days ago, unless he is in fact scum with choxorn, who was also at 2 votes at the time.

Words are coming out of your mouth, but you are saying nothing. Askthepizzaguy Nintz

 

[Frozen In Ice]

OOC: Let me clarify how the Nintz/robbiecon vote came about. My personal goal was to feed on three Sheaim. By day 2 I have not fed on any of them yet as I had spent night one converting a raw mana into a law mana. I didn't want one of the Sheaim to die before I had a chance to start feeding on them as this would make my PG very hard to fulfill. At that point Bsmith, Choxorn, and I were in fairly regular contact as we used our commonality as Durnovarians as an excuse to start working together. Fairly late in the day I went to Bsmith and asked him to make sure Nintz wasn't lynched. He then voted for robbiecon, which made it a three-way tie between robbiecon, Choxorn, and Nintz IIRC. As I was in regular contact with Choxorn I decided to vote for robbiecon. Choxorn probably decided to vote for robbiecon in order to ensure his safety, but you'll have to ask him about that

 

[Nintz]

Words are coming out of your mouth, but you are saying nothing. Askthepizzaguy Nintz

What do you expect me to say?

I cannot prove that I am innocent. No one can prove that they personally are. Yet I am.

I cannot prove that I have not been collaborating with Frozen In Ice. Only he knows for sure, and he could easily say that we were not working together if we were in fact a scum team. Yet I have not been talking with him.

If someone you trust has a scanning ability, tell them to scan me. I will be innocent. Other than that, what can I do? I have few personal leads and fewer pieces of evidence. That does not make me scum, even if it makes me appear so. Of course, it seems to me that everyone is like that. Some simply put more fluff to make their arguments appear more right. Rarely does anyone have actual evidence or solid arguments as to who legitimately could be scum. Even then, these accusations are often wrong. I choose not to do that whenever I can. Thus, I have little to factually contribute.

 

[Frozen In Ice]

Catharsis
King Morgan
Exar

Exar or someone else, can we get a tally?

 

[Catharsis]

OOC: Let me clarify how the Nintz/robbiecon vote came about. My personal goal was to feed on three Sheaim. By day 2 I have not fed on any of them yet as I had spent night one converting a raw mana into a law mana. I didn't want one of the Sheaim to die before I had a chance to start feeding on them as this would make my PG very hard to fulfill. At that point Bsmith, Choxorn, and I were in fairly regular contact as we used our commonality as Durnovarians as an excuse to start working together. Fairly late in the day I went to Bsmith and asked him to make sure Nintz wasn't lynched. He then voted for robbiecon, which made it a three-way tie between robbiecon, Choxorn, and Nintz IIRC. As I was in regular contact with Choxorn I decided to vote for robbiecon. Choxorn probably decided to vote for robbiecon in order to ensure his safety, but you'll have to ask him about that

{OOC: That makes an annoying amount of sense. Damn you. I thought I had something

The only thing that still makes me suspish is the reliance on the word of the dead BSmith, rather than the alive choxorn, to verify the story. But I am willing to unvote Frozen in Ice for the moment while I keep reading the thread.}

 

[choxorn]

My top three sssssscumssssss:

1. ATPG
2. Choxssssorn
3. Frozen

I have been cooperating with you, Visssssorssssslasssssh, and I cooperated with BSsssssssmith before hisssss untimely death. ATPG isssss losssst, in my opinion, and hissss wordssss reek of evil.

Your words employ no critical thought, just going along with what everyone else is saying, and you assume that someone that gave you mana and thus a useful ability for nothing in return is likely to be a scum.

I think I know now who the Vampire Usurper is.

OOC: Let me clarify how the Nintz/robbiecon vote came about. My personal goal was to feed on three Sheaim. By day 2 I have not fed on any of them yet as I had spent night one converting a raw mana into a law mana. I didn't want one of the Sheaim to die before I had a chance to start feeding on them as this would make my PG very hard to fulfill. At that point Bsmith, Choxorn, and I were in fairly regular contact as we used our commonality as Durnovarians as an excuse to start working together. Fairly late in the day I went to Bsmith and asked him to make sure Nintz wasn't lynched. He then voted for robbiecon, which made it a three-way tie between robbiecon, Choxorn, and Nintz IIRC. As I was in regular contact with Choxorn I decided to vote for robbiecon. Choxorn probably decided to vote for robbiecon in order to ensure his safety, but you'll have to ask him about that

That is correct.

Also, I think you can feed and use active-ability spells on the same night, but I'm not certain about that. (OOC: sprig, can we?)

Top suspects:
1. ATPG
2. Verarde
3. KingMorgan
4. TheBlackKnigh

 

[Zack]

Why all the suspicion on Verarde? He's been completely honest and transparent in private.

 

[Catharsis]

I have reason to believe that Winston Hughes is innocent (PM for more), so do not feel he is a good lynch candidate.

The adventurer shifts back into his regular persona.

I'VE HEARD THIS REASON FROM NINTZ BY THE WAY!!!! IT DOESN'T HOLD MUCH WATER IN MY OPINION. NINTZ HOWEVER SWINGS A LITTLE MORE INNOCENT IN MY VIEW BECAUSE OF IT - NOT A WHOLE LOT BUT I'LL PROBABLY REMOVE HIM AND FROZEN FROM FIRST PLACE ON MY FINAL 'SUSPECTS LIST'.

(3) tempted to put The Black Knigh here because he seems to be claiming some sort of 'mana expert' role but so far has put forward nothing about mana that I (or any other player) could not have discerned by simply having a lot of mana shown to me - does he actually do anything?}

HMMMM.

OBSESSION WITH MANA... CLAIMS SOME SORT OF SPECIAL ABILITY TO IDENTIFY MANA BUT OFFERS NO EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE OF THIS... WANTS YOU TO SHOW HIM WHAT MANA YOU HAVE?

WOULDN'T HAPPEN TO BE A THIEF WOULD YOU MISTER KNIGH????

 

[Zack]

Nintz Catharsis should die if he doesn't stop using obnoxious fonts/font sizes/colors/all caps.

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

Verarde is not nearly as good of a lynch as Askthepizzaguy. I'm not sure if I buy your role, (OOC: especially considering the end result last time you were part of a Lover's team).

OOC

This role is completely different. Catharsis is completely unaware of me except for my roleplaying.

My VC is his survival.

Want to prove I'm not full of it?

He dies, and flips innocent or guilty, NOT lover.

And of course, I lose the game then. So, great.

Catharsis is my unrequited lover, not a Lover role. It's very creative and a truly awesome neutral role. I've never seen anything like it and it is perhaps my favorite role of all time.

I will enjoy this game immensely even if I am the lynch today or the murder tonight.

I'm not a Demon or Usurper though, and have zero conflicting goals with town.