Steve Jobs Dies

[innonimatu]

He helped bring out some good stuff at Apple early on, even if he crewed Wozniak and others in his desire for control. And there's that often-forgotten venture into animation also.

But is last years at Apple left a very bad legacy: the "walled garden" model of locking in users to a single company's online services and electronic junk, milking them as much as possible. The model is gaining followers, with other companies seeing the profits to be made and imitating it. I don't like it.
Tied into this, the pathetic patent wars as companies try to monopolize this market for electronic junk. But perhaps some good will come of that, perhaps the idea of patents will lose credibility in the process. Jobs might still be pushing "innovation" at the modern Apple (mostly taking existent ideas and making them mainstream, in design, UI and business models), but he certainly didn't want to share it!
No, I know that people always expect an eulogy to the deceased, but while I appreciate some of what he's done, I can't say he was a good person.

 

[Archbob]

Never was really a fan of apple products but he was a great man.

 

[bombshoo]

And there's that often-forgotten venture into animation also.

Very true. Pixar is where he did his best work IMO.

 

[carmen510]

Though I may not have agreed with everything he has done, the world has still lost a visionary.

Also, the Westboro Baptist Church said they'd picket his funeral. I hope they get stoned to death by iPhones chucked by Apple fans.

 

[bombshoo]

Also, the Westboro Baptist Church said they'd picket his funeral. I hope they get stoned to death by iPhones chucked by Apple fans.

Not that I really should care what they have to say, but just out of morbid curiosity what is there excuse for it this time?

 

[Ajidica]

Not that I really should care what they have to say, but just out of morbid curiosity what is there excuse for it this time?

It looks like they are attention whores:

Yes, God hates fags, and apparently he also hates Steve Jobs, according to WBC, whose many Twitter accounts have announced that Steve is currently burning in Hell for all his sins. And what sins are those, you might ask? Well, in sifting through their inexplicably angry Tweets, it appears that WBC are angry at Steve for making money, which somehow equates to the sin of Pride, as far as I can tell. Now, I’m not one to call a group like the WBC publicity whores, but seriously? Is there anyone more self righteous and proud of themselves than the Westboro Baptist Church, which appears to consist solely of the members of the deranged Phelps family? I would imagine that Steve isn’t the only one in America making more money than the Phelps – odds are you’ve made more money reading this article than the Phelps pull in all year – so their singling Steve out seems a bit of a stretch, even for them. But then again, how could they resist picketing the funeral of someone who’s death can crash Twitter?

http://macenstein.com/default/2011/...ia-iphone-it-will-protest-steve-jobs-funeral/
Apparently the tweets were posted from an iPhone.
What are the chances this is just an Anon hack job? They seem like the type that would find this funny. If the WBC was made up of Scientologists I would say it was a given, but I'm not so sure.

 

[carmen510]

Not that I really should care what they have to say, but just out of morbid curiosity what is there excuse for it this time?

Had to change some of the wording (in brackets) to avoid censor.

"Yo. Steve Jobs abused his platform, pushing proud sin against God. His fame/riches/success can't help him in Hell."

"Steve Jobs was proud of the fact that Apple was known worldwide for pushing proud, [gay] sin."

"Apple is known worldwide for pushing [gay] sin. The blood of all those Steve Jobs lied to is on his hands."

"We're doing what Steve Jobs refused to do: use the resources God gave to publish His standards, the truth of God!"

 

[Bootstoots]

Also, the Westboro Baptist Church said they'd picket his funeral. I hope they get stoned to death by iPhones chucked by Apple fans.

Why does it matter if they picket his funeral? I for one would be honored if the WBC picketed my funeral. If they hate me, surely I've done something right!

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

Not that I really should care what they have to say, but just out of morbid curiosity what is there excuse for it this time?

 

[_random_]

Jobs was Buddhist, so that probably has something to do with it.

 

[Defiant47]

He had a vision that through powerful marketing, he could sell products that had just about the same functionality at 50% higher than the competitors' pricing.

The Mac is nothing special, and it's had troubles through its entire life (except at the very beginning). When you buy a Mac, you buy an Apple product, not a good computer. Mac sales had started going up recently though (the case study I had for Apple was from 2010). If you think about it, the Mac is just like any ordinary computer, but costs 50% more.

The iPod is not too special either. It revolutionized the industry because of a strong marketing force. MP3 players had been around. I remember at the time because I had a Creative Labs MP3 player, and was thoroughly pleased with it. When I got an iPod, I did not see much of a paradigm difference, other than maybe the design. The iPod was just like any other MP3 player, but somewhat better in its functionality (and easier to use because of iTunes), and much nicer-looking - but huge swats more popular.

Steve Jobs taught us that it's not about putting out a good product. It's about making people want that product, and making it look nice. And he was right. In today's modern age, it's more important that you have a strong brand and advertising crew than that you have a good product. Everybody stated that he somehow knew what the market wanted ahead of time and provided it. But I just believe he knew exactly how to make the market want what Apple would provide.

Apple has been riding this wave, and will likely continue to ride it. And it was all driven by a man who knew how to play the market. Guy was a genius.

 

[.Shane.]

@goodenoughforme.... That is awesome!

 

[Zelig]

He had been batting it for years. But, yes, the assumption is he resigned because his health was taking a turn for the worse.

It wasn't really an assumption, in his statement when he left he said it was because of his health.

Microsoft did make an mp3 player, called the Zune, but it failed to rival the iPod at all.

In what way? The hardware of the last-gen Zune was generally better than the ipod at the time, and the current Zune/WP ecosystem is generally better than the iOS/itunes ecosystem for music.

 

[Miles Teg]

Jobs was Buddhist, so that probably has something to do with it.

That just makes it worse. Buddhists are just a few steps removed from gay people. Think about it.

God sends earthquakes to punish gay people.

What areas get lots of earthquakes? Japan and the American west coast.

What do Japan and the west coast have in common?

Buddhists!

 

[katipunero]

I have not much to say except that I have never been a hardcore fan of Apple products. But this guy knew how to run his company. I think I can credit him for making aesthetics and design an essential part of every electronic device. R.I.P.

 

[Camikaze]

Quite an innovator.

Tonight, America lost a genius who will be remembered with Edison and Einstein, and whose ideas will shape the world for generations to come.

I think it's quite true that the innovations we've seen over the last couple of decades have been mammoth. In a consumer society, Jobs seemed to always be at cutting edge of consumer technology. That's a massive influence. RIP.

(Posted from an iMac)

 

[Skwink]

In what way? The hardware of the last-gen Zune was generally better than the ipod at the time, and the current Zune/WP ecosystem is generally better than the iOS/itunes ecosystem for music.

Zune market share decreased to 2% in the first half of 2009, according to the NPD Group

From Wikipedia. Article

 

[Ajidica]

In what way? The hardware of the last-gen Zune was generally better than the ipod at the time, and the current Zune/WP ecosystem is generally better than the iOS/itunes ecosystem for music.

The Zune didn't have COMPLETE MARKET DOMINATION. (And here I am, soldiering on with my ancient and crappy 2gig Sansa.)

 

[Theige]

I didn't realize Apple was making Jobs cuts.

 

[mangxema]

Wow, this is tragic. Sad he did not spent his retirement to the fullest .

Men like this don't retire.

I dislike Apple but the man was a great businessman and innovator. Sleep well, Steve.

I disagree with a lot of Apple's general philosophy (closedness, form over function) but as an engineer, I gotta respect the guy. I didn't buy an ipod for ages because I highly valued certain functions of my old disc-based mp3 player, but when it finally died, I found the ipod touch kicked the crap out of anything else out there.

Also, the Westboro Baptist Church said they'd picket his funeral. I hope they get stoned to death by iPhones chucked by Apple fans.

Don't be ridiculous; Apple fans would never chuck their iphones!