Sugar is toxic

[NickyJ]

I think this goes in the same category as the 'we're all going to die if we eat too many radioactive bananas' stories.

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

The problem with the entire "too much of anything can kill you" argument is that - while true - it glosses over the details. Yes, the thought is good, but our normal levels of consumption (in this case of fructose) are so jacked up in the last 30 years that even our idea of "moderation" is much higher than it used to be. It's easy to fall back on the "moderation" claim, but the reality is that many people's consumption of certain fats, carbs, sugars, etc., has been totally skewed to where even lowering it a little is still not enough to get the job done.

 

[dirtyparrot]

I caught the 60 minutes show on this last week and one of the things that I found interesting was that certain kind of tumor cells seem to get activated by insulin.

The problem with "everything in moderation" is that many food products contain tons of sugar in relatively small portions. So, it becomes easy to under-estimate the amount of sugar you've ingested even if you're trying to do the right thing.

 

[Ayn Rand]

Sugar is not toxic - stupidity is toxic. And as this is the taberna let's just come out and say it at last - the fatties are powerful dumb and there ain't no cure for that kind of stupidity.

 

[LucyDuke]

I agree with the gist of your point, but there's likely a lot to condemn in the 1%ers involved in sugar. I can understand marketing a product people want, but:
- lobbying for subsidies for your sugars
- lobbying against subsidies for healthier food
- lobbying against mandatory information provision
- obfuscating science regarding the health effects of sugar

These would all be detestable. Taking advantage of people is one thing, something I quite disagree with. Going above-and-beyond to chase the buck, the almighty dollar, is scummy

Yeah, I won't dispute that they're doing some evil business. The evil just isn't the offering of sugary noms.

 

[classical_hero]

Link to video.

As with anything it can be toxic in high doses. But I do agree that there is way too much sugar in our diets and I am glad we don't have high fructose corn syrup here in Australia for most products like they do in America.

 

[Narz]

It's a load of tripe. Tripe designed to manipulate society and force society to bend to the elites' will. They have no right to force dietary changes on the population at large.

The elites are the one's making money off junk food addiction in the first place.

I already eat very minimal processed sugar (occasionally an 80% chocolate bar or something) so this won't affect me. It's not really news that sugar is bad for you. Check out the book called Sugar Blues.

 

[Narz]

Sugar is not toxic - stupidity is toxic. And as this is the taberna let's just come out and say it at last - the fatties are powerful dumb and there ain't no cure for that kind of stupidity.

Fat people or people with food issues are not necessarily dumb. Even high achievers with high levels of self-discipline have food issues. Its far harder to deal with food issues than most other addictions because you can go cold turkey on most things but not food. It's pretty primal & even changes your brain chemistry.

http://www.naturalnews.com/029382_junk_food_rats.html

(kudos to someone on CFC for posting that, forgot who)

 

[Quackers]

Sugar is delicious though

 

[caketastydelish]

If this was a liberal, MSNBC "government takeover of health" thing, then I would ignore this. But when even fox admits that sugar is damaging american lives, you know they must be right.

Spoiler :

note: I am liberal myself.

 

[caketastydelish]

oh, and here is something you guys might find interesting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5IW9wK_HNg

 

[Narz]

Sugar is delicious though

Honey is just as good.

 

[LucyDuke]

And just as bad.

 

[Narz]

Says you.

 

[LucyDuke]

Yeah, that wasn't really true. It's not quite as bad.

 

[Narz]

Not even close to as bad. Processed sugar isn't really a food, it's more like a drug. Honey actually has some health giving properties (though how good or bad it is depends alot of what kind of honey).

http://www.jacn.org/content/27/6/677.short

http://www.buzzaboutbees.net/honey-vs-sugar.html

I suppose a person could induce type-2-diabetes from a diet with no sugar but high amounts of honey but I've never heard of it happening.

I think maple syrup is probably healthier than honey but it's alot more expensive.

 

[Zelig]

This is not news. Sugar is in everything because it's yummy, it's not a massive conspiracy to make ketchup poisonous at the expense of little childrens' health. Every single goddamn one of you knew "too much sugar is bad" before you read a news article today, don't act surprised because you finally bothered to find out what that actually means. This "news" won't change my diet because it's not news.

Yeah.

Not news.

If you didn't know this already, you were willfully ignorant.

Even if you're super-fit, spikes of sugar wear down your pancreas and make adult-onset diabetes more likely.

So.... as I'm super-fit, I should constantly be eating candy to remain at a high level of sugar and avoid any spikes?

Sugar is not toxic - stupidity is toxic. And as this is the taberna let's just come out and say it at last - the fatties are powerful dumb and there ain't no cure for that kind of stupidity.

Telling uninformed people that they should stop being stupid because studies show that stupidity is bad for your health isn't very helpful.

I think maple syrup is probably healthier than honey but it's alot more expensive.

Since I stopped working my day-job a month ago I've been producing my sucrose syrup from dandelions. This sucrose is so healthy, I haven't even been eating any other food. Goddamn I'm healthy.

 

[LucyDuke]

Not even close to as bad. Processed sugar isn't really a food, it's more like a drug. Honey actually has some health giving properties (though how good or bad it is depends alot of what kind of honey).

http://www.jacn.org/content/27/6/677.short

http://www.buzzaboutbees.net/honey-vs-sugar.html

I suppose a person could induce type-2-diabetes from a diet with no sugar but high amounts of honey but I've never heard of it happening.

I think maple syrup is probably healthier than honey but it's alot more expensive.

The only thing I found even possibly significant in those links is that protein makes up a whopping 0.4% of honey. For funsies I worked out that, using the numbers most favorable to honey, a single kidney bean has as much protein as 2½ tablespoons of honey.

So... maybe I'm missing something? Please, point me to the good stuff, something that specifies what honey's health giving properties actually are. 'Cause it's pretty much just sugar with a bean in it.

 

[ParkCungHee]

Americans don't eat sugar. We eat corn syrup.

 

[El_Machinae]

So.... as I'm super-fit, I should constantly be eating candy to remain at a high level of sugar and avoid any spikes?

I mean that even being super-fit won't protect you from the pancreas-injuring effects of high sugar intake.