That was part of "world revolution" doctrine, Bolsheviks at that time didn't plan to keep Russian state for long.
It's still 4.3% as of 2017.
[RD] Surrender Summit
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It's still 4.3% as of 2017.
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It's still 4.3% as of 2017.
Can you link the source of this graph?
http://sites.uci.edu/energyobserver...-military-budget-with-eu-nato-and-us-budgets/
Number of 4.3% for 2017 is from wiki
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According to SIPRI data, it was rising between 2011-2016, reached max value of 5.4% in 2016 and dropped back after that.
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Kinda like Britain and France and Russia in the 19th century?
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I was thinking about how the US and Russia expanded by conquering and settling "wild territories" (one westward, the other eastward), and then used its gargantuan resources and population to expand influence over the world.
But yes, France and Britain had done it before in the 18th and 19th centuries. So similar in ambition that they felt doomed to fight it out.
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Not to mention the Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, ect.
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Russian military announces they are ready to proceed as agreed at Helsinki, US military requests that Russia inform them of what was agreed to as this is the first they've heard of it.
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The US and Russia asked them, and they hosted these kinds of east-west meetings before. Seems they felt obliged.
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Clearly you have no idea just how much smoked fish can be sold to a hungry press corps on a daily basis.
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Russian military announces they are ready to proceed as agreed at Helsinki, US military requests that Russia inform them of what was agreed to as this is the first they've heard of it.
Trump will hold a Press conference where he will say he didnt agree to what he agreed too
Problem SOLVED !
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And if that doesn't work he'll just say the whole story is fake news and he's never been to Helsinki or met Putin in his life.
I can't tell whether the above is a joke or not. Scary.
Russian military announces they are ready to proceed as agreed at Helsinki, US military requests that Russia inform them of what was agreed to as this is the first they've heard of it.
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I'm still assuming it's a presidential tweet I haven't seen yet...
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Sort of both. Russian media is carrying the "prepared to do as agreed" part. And as far as anyone in the US media has been able to get from sources in the state department and pentagon no one on the US side is aware of any agreement. The part about the US military asking the Russians is a joke, but on second look might actually be the only available option for them. Trump can't explain what he agreed to, though he has made clear that it was the biggest agreement ever.
Didn't see any such announcement in Russian media.
Can any of the Clinton fanboyz here confirm what I just learned that Hillary in her book "Hard choices" (2014) admits to secret meeting with Putin? I wonder what she had to surrender back than...
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Who gives a crud? She wasn't the US president and isn't the US president.
Not only that. Back then "surrendering" to Russia from US presidents was cool and progressive thing to do:
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