2020 US Election (Part 3)

[hobbsyoyo]

I think that from election day up to today, not just CFC but the US in general has been mostly pretty damn civil, considering all we've been through these last 4 years.

It's like we looked over the precipice, blinked and took a step back.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Its not. I think that from election day up to today, not just CFC but the US in general has been mostly pretty damn civil, considering all we've been through these last 4 years. I think it may be about time to start patting ourselves on the back

When you imagine the opposition, you can imagine devils.

When you're standing next to the opposition in a line to vote, you see they are regular Americans like you.

 

[JPetroski]

I do not characterize most of the last 80 pages as hostile and openly belittling but maybe I am misreading.

No, most of you have been very gracious winners. It's actually been really nice and I appreciate it.

 

[GenMarshall]

You make me laugh, you're barely one step away from claiming that the radical homocommunist, radisexual transdemocratic left are going to go around lynching poor, innocent white straight males, you're almost indistinguishable from a parody of a conservative

Excuse me, are you kidding me? This is exactly why people have a problem with your rhetoric since you're quick to the trigger to dismiss someone instead of breaking down the person's argument and opinions to debunk them and cast them aside as a "parody of a conservative". This is not how you win people to your side. At worst, you're pushing people away because you don't have the will to engage in a conversation with a person and find out why they feel that way and offer up to potentially debunk the person's argument and/or opinion. You had your chance, an opportunity to debunk the argument and opinion, but instead you decided to resort to Ad Hominem attacks rather than the argument itself.

You claim that I'm some sort of MAGA hat and MAGA flag waving alt-right nutjob, when in reality I lean center-left that has ennui and war wearyness from the culture war and identity politics that's seeping into my hobbies and entertainment. You don't win the hearts and minds of people by insulting them. Infact, you're only hurting your cause by discounting people and calling them "a parody of a conservative".

You first?

I'm not the one being condescending. Just offering up my fears based on what I see from the radical left. I am open to have them challenged. But so far, I just see nothing but ridicule.

 

[Patine]

Indeed, I've been wondering about these references to FPTP in this election, thinking it Does Not Mean What I Think It Means.

Here in Canada, we take FPTP to mean what we have, where our PM is almost NEVER representing a party with a majority of the popular vote, and indeed an elected PM's party may not even have the largest plurality of the popular vote.

Ironically, in 2015 we elected a government that promised we'd never have a FPTP election again. Yeah right.

Anyway, what part of the US elections is FPTP? (Besides House of Reps) I see the senators cannot get elected on pluralities alone as they are calling 2 runoff elections in GA.

I would describe the Electoral College as a "Winner takes all" situation. Except Nebraska and Maine.

I'm from Canada myself. Another outsider looking in from the north at this mess.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Reflecting on the current state of the map. I think I can admit that 538 was not as wrong as I initially felt. They were still off, sometimes way off, but not as widespread or as badly as I was feeling a couple days ago.

So...Sorry everyone for yelling.

 

[Patine]

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[Patine]

Bannon has called for beheadings and Eric Jr has called for total war.

That is pretty crazy.

Reminds me of the 2005 Election - in Iraq!

 

[Kyriakos]

Would Trump have to pay the recount out of his pocket? (I mean I suppose he can set up some public fund for it?).
I am not really seeing him throw his own money on this - unless he really believes it could change something.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

So...Sorry everyone for yelling.

Oh that's so typically left wing. Taking the high road and apologizing! You think you're better than us? Do you?

edit: Oh crap, I'm left wing myself.

Sorry about that.

 

[Zelig]

Reflecting on the current state of the map. I think I can admit that 538 was not as wrong as I initially felt. They were still off, sometimes way off, but not as widespread or as badly as I was feeling a couple days ago.

So...Sorry everyone for yelling.

They had a comment along these lines in one of their written pieces within the last few weeks - i.e. people care a lot more about pollsters being off by amount x if that amount flips the result than if it doesn't.

 

[Patine]

Okay but are you actually wanting on this bong or not

This cannabis-pushing crap (and the intimation that everyone has to succumb to the weakness of dulling their mental faculties to deal with any problems in life) has really gotten old. In fact, it's gotten downright disgusting and lowly.

 

[Sommerswerd]

They had a comment along these lines in one of their written pieces within the last few weeks - i.e. people care a lot more about pollsters being off by amount x if that amount flips the result than if it doesn't.

I think that is definitely playing into my feelings about it yes. For example, I was displeased with their figures for MI and WI, but not as much as I was about GA, NC and PA, despite the fact that the former were actually more inaccurate than the latter. Same for TX, OH, IA versus FL.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

This cannabis-pushing crap (and the intimation that everyone has to succumb to the weakness of dulling their mental faculties to deal with any problems in life) has really gotten old. In fact, it's gotten downright disgusting and lowly.

So that's a no then?

 

[GenMarshall]

Come on, let's be honest. Trump was such an unbelievable hateful clown that you could NOT throw crap at him if you had even an ounce of dignity or common sense. He is a guy it's literally impossible to caricature FFS. The regressive left is certainly tons of toxic and hateful, but Trump was far worse. I'd say, if you are a Republican, you are the one that should despise him the most, as he's defiling your own party.

For starters, I did not vote for him in 2016 and just lived out my life normally. I did not entertain the idea of attacking Trump because I've been through it before with George W. Bush during his administration (For the record, I voted for Kerry in 2004 and I wasn't old enough to vote in 2000) and saw that it was not worth attacking Trump and lived out my life as normal, until around the time Gamergate came around and became miffed with identity politics being rammed down my throat.

The whole "Let's make fun of Orange Man Bad" did not appeal to me since I've already gone through "Let's make fun of Dubya" when I was younger.

 

[Lexicus]

I'm not the one being condescending. Just offering up my fears based on what I see from the radical left. I am open to have them challenged. But so far, I just see nothing but ridicule.

You're not going to round up people who aren't straight white males and put em in camps are you? And before you ridicule the idea that you would do this, remember I am just offering up my fears based on what I see you post, and am open to have them challenged.

The whole "Let's make fun of Orange Man Bad" did not appeal to me since I've already gone through "Let's make fun of Dubya" when I was younger.

Seems to me making fun of the President is a textbook first amendment right...you don't want to take our first amendment rights away do you?

Keep in mind I am just offering up my fears based on what I see you post, and am open to have them challenged.

This cannabis-pushing crap (and the intimation that everyone has to succumb to the weakness of dulling their mental faculties to deal with any problems in life) has really gotten old. In fact, it's gotten downright disgusting and lowly.

Pick it, pack it, fire it up, come aloooooong, and take a hit from the bong,
put the blunt down just for a second don't get me wrong it's not a new method
Inhale
Exhale
Just got a ounce in the mail
(Don't @me, it's now CONSTITUTIONALLY LEGAL in my state)

 

[Zelig]

https://twitter.com/SCOTUSblog/status/1324737753804918786

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Having the last laugh

https://www.buzzfeed.com/ishabassi/greta-thunberg-comeback-donald-trump-us-election

 

[Sommerswerd]

Pick it, pack it, fire it up, come aloooooong, and take a hit from the bong,
put the blunt down just for a second don't get me wrong it's not a new method
Inhale
Exhale
Just got a ounce in the mail
(Don't @me, it's now CONSTITUTIONALLY LEGAL in my state)

Roll it up
Light it up
Smoke it up
Inhale
Exhale


OR

Smoke two joints in time of peace
and two in time of war
I smoke two joints before I smoke two joints
And then I smoke two more

 

[Cloud_Strife]

This cannabis-pushing crap (and the intimation that everyone has to succumb to the weakness of dulling their mental faculties to deal with any problems in life) has really gotten old. In fact, it's gotten downright disgusting and lowly.

Dude there's other people waiting for a hit on this

Seriously though, for a person in your position you sure are judgemental.

Calling it now; @GenMarshall Is one of those people who think a character being anything other than a white, straight male is "political" and believes identity politics is paying attention to minorities that have been ignored for decades