2020 US Election (Part 3)

[BCheek]

Even Hillary was more popular than Trump.

Trump received millions more votes in 2020 than Hillary received in 2016.

 

[Samson]

Joe Biden didn't receive 80 million votes and anyone who believes it is a fool.

Maybe not, but he did get more than the 1st 30 presidents added together.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Trump received millions more votes in 2020 than Hillary received in 2016.

Yes, but Hillary ran in 2016 remember?

And got more votes than Trump, so according to your "logic" is more popular than Trump. As is Biden in 2020. Did you know he almost got 80 million votes? A whopping 6 million more than Trump.

 

[Akka]

The plan was to rig the election with all the fake polling in the run up to it. The mail in ballot fraud, excused by COVID-19. The MSM priming everyone to expect delayed election results (which is typically a giant red flag for election fraud). Then say, "Look, Trump has been completely repudiated. What a reversal."

Problem is they didn't expect Trump to receive millions more votes than Obama did because everyone knows Biden isn't more popular than Obama.

The MSM even called states Trump was leading and guaranteed to win like Alaska days later, while calling states barley leaning Biden early, like AZ. Then froze the voting for several days in extremely tight races in multiple key swing states. All to give the impression on election night that Biden had won a clear victory when really that couldn't be further from the truth.

I'm not sure if you're making a parody or if you're serious here.

 

[BCheek]

A whopping 6 million more than Trump.

I know. Trump had such a high turnout MSM had to broadcast the results while they kept counting and accepting ballots after the polls had closed. Predictably they kept "finding" mail in ballots for Biden once they knew how big his deficit was. He's still barely in the lead in many of these swing states. Often only by a few 1000 votes.

There's a reason voting stops after the polls close. The Democrats didn't want to do that this election for some reason. They arbitrarily and unilaterally changed the rules below the state level and without input from the legislatures. There's going to be some really interesting court battles.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I know. Trump had such a high turnout MSM had to broadcast the results while they kept counting after the polls had closed. Predictably they kept "finding" mail in ballots for Biden once they knew how big his deficit was. He's still barely in the lead in many of these swing states. Often only by a few 1000 votes.

I know right? After they were told to count the mail in ballots after the other votes were counted, they counted the mail in ballots after the other votes were counted. And they kept on counting the mail in ballots, even when Trump cried: "Hey! I'm in front, stop counting! Except for Arizona, keep counting there!" But they didn't! They just went on and counted all the votes. We all know that you don't count all the votes and then decide who wins the election. Trump decides who wins the election, and he decided that 3 months before the election. If the flipping president says he won the election, he bloody well won the election. Where do these vote counters think they live? In a democracy?

So unfair. So sad. Must be rigged

But, back to the point. Both Biden and Hillary are more popular than Trump, because both won the popular vote count in the elections. We already established that Obama was more popular than Biden, so Obama is waaaaaay more popular than Trump..

Way more. I think it was because Obama was a decent human being, and Trump is a corrupt grifting sleazeball.

 

[BCheek]

they were told to count the mail in ballots after the other votes were counted

How awfully convenient. I wonder why they were told to do that?

Interesting how MSM just happened to announce the freezing of the counts in many of these swing states at that exact same time too.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

How awfully convenient. I wonder why they were told to do that?

They were told by the Repulbicans, so he could have his "I won this!" moment on election day. After he derailed the mail in ballot processing of course. Everyone saw this coming, everyone knew he was going to pull that off. Everyone expected the mail in ballot to favour Biden, since Trump has been saying to his supporters not to vote by mail.

It was such a transparent simple set up, it only fooled simpletons.

Interesting how MSM just happened to announce the freezing of the counts in many of these swing states at that exact same time too.

Again, that is a load of unsupported bollocks


https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/04/...tes-like-pennsylvania-and-michigan/index.html

Early vote totals on Tuesday night in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin appeared to give President Donald Trump a comfortable edge over former Vice President Joe Biden.

But those numbers were never complete, and those tallies were changing overnight and into Wednesday as mail-in ballots from heavily Democratic areas in those states were counted.
A big reason for the delay: Laws in each state barred election officials from getting a head start on processing and counting the record number of mail-in ballots voters used amid the Covid-19 pandemic.
Take Pennsylvania. The Republican-controlled legislature refused to change state law to allow county election officials to start processing mail-in ballots until 7 a.m. on Election Day. That left local election officials with mountains of absentee ballots to process and count on top of the in-person vote cast on Tuesday.

 

[BCheek]

Everyone saw this coming, everyone knew he was going to pull that off. Everyone expected the mail in ballot to favour Biden, since Trump has been saying to his supporters not to vote by mail.

Oh, so the MSM colluded with the Democrats against Trump to present a desire impression to the public? Of course this wouldn't be election interference? We already know it's collusion. That's self evident.

 

[Samson]

How awfully convenient. I wonder why they were told to do that?

That is asked here, and none of the reasons sound good to me. I really wonder what the real reason is.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Oh, so the MSM colluded with the Democrats against Trump to present a desire impression to the public? Of course this wouldn't be election interference and collusion would it?

No, because you're talking bollocks again

 

[BCheek]

The Republican-controlled legislature refused to change state law to allow county election officials to start processing mail-in ballots until 7 a.m.

The votes are always counted on election day (except for early voting and absentee ballots). Why should mail in ballots be any different?

The count is done on election day and ballots stop coming once the polls close. It's done this way to prevent fraud. The Democrats ran this election like a Banana Republic.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

That is asked here, and none of the reasons sound good to me. I really wonder what the real reason is.

You're a better person than I am Samson.

The votes are always counted on election day (except for early voting and absentee ballots). Why should mail in ballots be any different?

The count is done on election day and ballots stop coming once the polls close. It's done this way to prevent fraud.

You wanted to know why they were counted later, there's your answer. And if it was that way to prevent fraude, well, fraude prevented.

Then all is well. No fraude occurred. Biden is president. You can move on. You lot get to be Americans again, and try to cooperate the next 4 years.

Good luck Americans!

 

[Birdjaguar]

All the votes are always counted on election day (except for early voting and absentee ballots). Why should mail in ballots be any different?

Except that isn't true and Mail in ballots are the same as absentee ballots

 

[BCheek]

Except that isn't true and Mail in ballots are the same as absentee ballots

They're not the same. The mail in ballots cast this election were not absentee ballots, or they would have called them that, and then treated them accordingly.

 

[cardgame]

absolutely seething lol

 

[El_Machinae]

The votes are always counted on election day (except for early voting and absentee ballots). Why should mail in ballots be any different?

Each jurisdiction will have laws, and it's up to those jurisdictions to decide.

Why did Trump show zero leadership on supporting the USPS starting in January, when we should have known that mail in ballots would be important? Other than Trump misunderstanding his January 23rd briefing, I mean? So, why not in February, other than his administration was claiming that covid was contained? Okay, in March, when everyone knew that we'd need mail-in ballots and that the USPS had been degraded as a priority until then?

Democrats Presidential candidates have won most popular votes lately, but you're doubting that it happened this time, despite higher voter engagement and deliberate policy to improve turnout?

If this fraud is so important (and it would be, if true) why are you backing the guy who lied about sending investigators to Hawaii to handle it? The guy who puts fine print to line his own pockets with the donations?

He sharpied Utah after misunderstanding spaghetti maps. He thought that viruses spread in lung mucus after months of briefings. He called for QE after a tax cut. BUT, on this issue, he has insight? He literally lied about the size of his EC victory months after the last election

 

[BCheek]

Why did Trump show zero leadership on supporting the USPS starting in January, when we should have known that mail in ballots would be important? Other than Trump misunderstanding his January 23rd briefing, I mean? So, why not in February, other than his administration was claiming that covid was contained? Okay, in March, when everyone knew that we'd need mail-in ballots and that the USPS had been degraded as a priority until then?

It's the legislatures job to make practical decisions regarding the election process. It's not the president's role to become engaged at such a low level and even if he did libs would be crying about election interference instead.

The rest of your post is partisan rhetoric which I'm not going to get into. Frankly, it's irrelevant to the discussion.

 

[Zardnaar]

Why wouldn't nail down n ballots be valid? They are.

Perhaps if GoP hadn't made it harder to vote, ran down UPS and let a pandemic get out if control then drawn attention to the fact you can do mail in votes......

 

[Bamspeedy]

They're not the same. The mail in ballots cast this election were not absentee ballots, or they would have called them that, and then treated them accordingly.

They often mean the same thing, depends on the jurisdiction.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/18/whats-difference-between-absentee-mail-in-voting/

As to why they count in person votes first, before the absentee ballots, that varies by state too. Some states will verify the absentee ballots first, then put those who voted early on a list who cant be allowed to vote in person. Others do the opposite and see if a person voted in person, their mail in ballot will be rejected.