Election 2024 Part III: Out with the old!

[Core Imposter]

My informal estimate is maybe 50/60% go with whichever party best aligns with their moral values, usually determined by the extent to which they favor traditional beliefs/values or extent they don't,and make little to no consideration of material concerns.

This is exactly me; I admit. What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his own soul?

 

[aelf]

When dealing with middle aged bougeboys?

No, when coming from the number 1 edgelord.

 

[Lexicus]

This is exactly me; I admit. What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his own soul?

It is funny when coddled, fattened imperial citizens whose government is doing a genocide ask this unironically

 

[Farm Boy]

No new taxes on those making $400,000!

It's only a house every year. Poor, downtrodden souls.

We'll make it up with shared public debt and fees.

 

[Core Imposter]

Very strange to me that Harris has charted this course, choosing Walz over Shapiro and now articulating a socialist economic policy. Historically Democrat candidates run to the center after clinching the nomination. I can't imagine the voter she is courting that wouldn't already vote Democrat. Perhaps it is just a strategy designed to maximize turnout of the base. Or alternately, she is so confident that "just not being Trump" is such a cinch that she can actually turn the country fully into the socialist wind and has the luxury of just being "in your face" about it.

Third possibility is that neither she nor her campaign staff knows of the necessity of courting the middle.

At any rate, she has now shut the door to some who might have voted for her. Self-limiting it seems to me but, yeah, I am old, and the younger generations may just not understand the ramifications of that sort of economic policy. Young people do seem to have to make their own mistakes rather than learn from the mistakes of the past. Might as well have Bernie Sanders atop the ticket.

 

[Gorbles]

As usual, conservatives, but especially US conservatives, are unable to articulate "socialism" as anything except the Overton window possibly being moved in a very slight way to the left (from where it sits, solidly on the right).

 

[Farm Boy]

It's not socialism. It's just rank party pleasing. Lots of new high income voters in the Democrat party, can't tax them. But they buy stuff and are super smart enough to elect super smart people, so they should probably just dictate the prices of thier own consumption to those dumb and racist enough to produce the stuff for them.

It's back to my theory that the parties are actually just groups of people that eat together. So we loop in the no taxes on tip income thing

 

[Lexicus]

No new taxes on those making $400,000!

It's only a house every year. Poor, downtrodden souls.

We'll make it up with shared public debt and fees.

Yep, if there's one thing i'm known for it's opposing taxes on high earners.

 

[IglooDame]

Do any pro-military Trumpists need to hear more directly from Trump's mouth about how he not only doesn't have any respect for military service or heroism, but that he doesn't even grasp the concept of sacrifice for a higher purpose?

“I have to say, Miriam. I watched Sheldon sitting so proud in the White House when we gave Miriam the Presidential Medal of Freedom. That’s the highest award you can get as a civilian. It’s the equivalent of the Congressional Medal of Honor, but civilian version. It’s actually much better, because everyone gets the Congressional Medal of Honor. That’s soldiers. They’re either in very bad shape, because they’ve been hit so many times by bullets, or they’re dead. She gets it, and she’s a healthy, beautiful woman. And they’re rated equal.

Miriam Adelson is most notable for being one of Trump's largest pocketbooksdonors, and he apparently was trying to make nice to her Thursday after recently angrily having an aide text her to call the people who run her political action committee RINOs.

 

[Lexicus]

Do any pro-military Trumpists need to hear more directly from Trump's mouth about how he not only doesn't have any respect for military service or heroism, but that he doesn't even grasp the concept of sacrifice for a higher purpose?



Miriam Adelson is most notable for being one of Trump's largest pocketbooksdonors, and he apparently was trying to make nice to her Thursday after recently angrily having an aide text her to call the people who run her political action committee RINOs.

He's also gonna take away most of their BAH which is gonna lead to a lot of "i never thought the leopard would eat my face" moments if he wins

 

[Farm Boy]

Yep, if there's one thing i'm known for it's opposing taxes on high earners.

I'm not referencing you, though I think you did object at progressive taxes starting as low as 200,000, I'm just getting the number from Harris's campaign.

 

[Narz]

Do any pro-military Trumpists need to hear more directly from Trump's mouth about how he not only doesn't have any respect for military service or heroism, but that he doesn't even grasp the concept of sacrifice for a higher purpose?

To play devils advocate most war is bs and dying for a stupid cause is far from heroic, mostly just tragic.

 

[Farm Boy]

Cancer cells happen in superorganisms, too.

 

[Core Imposter]

We should raise the limit on social security tax and super wealthy people shouldn't even draw benefits. Those are common sense positions. Likewise, we should guarantee some benefits to encourage people to overcome. For example, disability, people should be able to earn up additional income without the risk of losing the base benefit. Just phase out the benefits at some level of earning and guarantee the benefit as a safety net. We have tons of people who have a disincentive to overcome their disability. And the unconscionable shame of having the social security administration of failing to keep up with people working and suddenly sending them a bill for all they have drawn over months or years. That is unbelievable.

Price controls, no, that's just pure communist/socialist stuff that doesn't work.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Very strange to me that Harris has charted this course, choosing Walz over Shapiro and now articulating a socialist economic policy. Historically Democrat candidates run to the center after clinching the nomination. I can't imagine the voter she is courting that wouldn't already vote Democrat. Perhaps it is just a strategy designed to maximize turnout of the base. Or alternately, she is so confident that "just not being Trump" is such a cinch that she can actually turn the country fully into the socialist wind and has the luxury of just being "in your face" about it.

Third possibility is that neither she nor her campaign staff knows of the necessity of courting the middle.

At any rate, she has now shut the door to some who might have voted for her. Self-limiting it seems to me but, yeah, I am old, and the younger generations may just not understand the ramifications of that sort of economic policy. Young people do seem to have to make their own mistakes rather than learn from the mistakes of the past. Might as well have Bernie Sanders atop the ticket.

So, wadda think of JD Vance?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Do any pro-military Trumpists need to hear more directly from Trump's mouth about how he not only doesn't have any respect for military service or heroism, but that he doesn't even grasp the concept of sacrifice for a higher purpose?

It's unfortunate you wrote "higher purpose".

It's tragic they lose their lives because it's their job. It's tragic because in humanity there's a job that means sacrificing yourself while sacrificing other people because of tribalism. The tragidy is the inability of humanity to co-exist.

edit: The tragedity is misspelling tragedy.

Tragedity

 

[EnglishEdward]

Very strange to me that Harris has charted this course, choosing Walz over Shapiro and now articulating a socialist economic policy. Historically Democrat candidates run to the center after clinching the nomination. I can't imagine the voter she is courting that wouldn't already vote Democrat. Perhaps it is just a strategy designed to maximize turnout of the base. Or alternately, she is so confident that "just not being Trump" is such a cinch that she can actually turn the country fully into the socialist wind and has the luxury of just being "in your face" about it.

Third possibility is that neither she nor her campaign staff knows of the necessity of courting the middle.

At any rate, she has now shut the door to some who might have voted for her. Self-limiting it seems to me but, yeah, I am old, and the younger generations may just not understand the ramifications of that sort of economic policy. Young people do seem to have to make their own mistakes rather than learn from the mistakes of the past. Might as well have Bernie Sanders atop the ticket.

Fourth possibility is that she is not a socialist at all and is mainly making noises about addressing issues
impacting people without having any real intention of challenging the billionaire and corporate classes.

 

[Core Imposter]

Fourth possibility is that she is not a socialist at all and is mainly making noises about addressing issues
impacting people without having any real intention of challenging the billionaire and corporate classes.

Novel concept.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Might as well have Bernie Sanders atop the ticket.

From your lips to the ears of my my most progressive, reluctant to vote countrymen

 

[danjuno]

"Here's how Bernie can still win! Kamala is actually Bernie is a costume! [SOCIAL EXPERIMENT] [GONE WRONG] [GONE SEXUAL] [ALMOST DIED] [COPS CALLED]"