Nazis in Ukraine

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Yes it is. American invasion is a bit worst because Sadam Hussein was a cool guy.

narrator: Saddam Hussein was not a cool guy

Same question. Are you sure that the United States is guaranteed to pursue all illegal terrorist cells on its territory? Or they "turn a blind eye" to their existence as long as it is beneficial for them.

Perhaps ironically, the US does to some degree turn a blind eye to neo-Nazi and other white supremacist terror cells on its territory. It is much more harsh toward extremist ideologies derived from fundamentalist interpretations of Islam.
 
I saw so many images of Nazi simbology in Ukranian uniform than is hard to believe it is just 900 man.
In the womens day the oficial perfil of Ukraine on internet share this picture:
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Is she from Azov Batallion or a regular soldier of Ukraine? Because if she was a regular soldier with a Nazi symbol in the breast it should mean it isn't just Azov who is Nazi in Ukraine. What is very sad.

Another issue, I was discussing about Nazis in Ukraine in my Instagram and a dude said there is Nazis also in Russia, do you know about that too?
We have talked about this before. What Nazi symbol?
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Looks somewhat suspicious but inconclusive at that level of detail.
What do you think it looks like? To my eyes it is clearly not a black sun. It looks like a ships steering wheel.
 
Also, of note, that seems to be the only photo that is being circulated r.e. Nazi symbology in the Ukranian forces. I'm not here to debate Azov, but if people want to start claiming numbers, providing more than the same photo on repeat would probably be more convincing.

Even moreso would be being able to disprove that Russia also benefits from Neo-Nazi (or similarly-extremist) regiments and armed forces. Because the point here isn't "Neo-Nazis on the side of Ukraine", it's the fact that it is being used as pretext. Which means the invading country must absolutely not be falling foul of the same standard. And the rub is Neo-Nazis exist in a bunch of countries.
 
We have talked about this before. What Nazi symbol?
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Sorry if we talked that before, but still a issue need to be talked about.
If this Black Sun isn't a Black sun, what it is? Why there is this symbol in Ukraine uniform?
There is others pictures of that:
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searching on the internet, it is saying it is a Nazi symbol.
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What do you think it looks like? To my eyes it is clearly not a black sun. It looks like a ships steering wheel.

Yes, it doesn't look like the Black Sun, but I am not well-versed enough in Nazi/white supremacist symbols to rule out that it is some other more obscure rune. At any event I would not consider that photo to be evidence of...well, anything really.

Also, of note, that seems to be the only photo that is being circulated r.e. Nazi symbology in the Ukranian forces. I'm not here to debate Azov, but if people want to start claiming numbers, providing more than the same photo on repeat would probably be more convincing.

Even moreso would be being able to disprove that Russia also benefits from Neo-Nazi (or similarly-extremist) regiments and armed forces. Because the point here isn't "Neo-Nazis on the side of Ukraine", it's the fact that it is being used as pretext. Which means the invading country must absolutely not be falling foul of the same standard. And the rub is Neo-Nazis exist in a bunch of countries.

Additionally, this invasion will not denazify Ukraine: it will nazify it.
 
Sorry if we talked that before, but still a issue need to be talked about.
If this Black Sun isn't a Black sun, what it is? Why there is this symbol in Ukraine uniform?
Who knows what it could be, go and have a look (if it exists on the linked site - I just tried to find a database of these kinds of things).

The second image you've provided is definitely the Black Sun. However it would be nice to have a source. It looks like it was sourced from Shutterstock, and as you can see from this photo of Zelensky, there's context that makes it clear where the image is from.
 
What do you think it looks like? To my eyes it is clearly not a black sun. It looks like a ships steering wheel.
Even if it were a SS sign with "I love Hitler" below, it would just remind us that some amount of military in Ukraine include nazis, which has been known from the start anyway.
It's just (again, because this very picture has already been used in the past few weeks for exactly the same reasons) an attempt to claim that because some guys in the army are nazis, then Ukraine is controled by nazis, which is as dumb as it sounds.
 
Yes, it doesn't look like the Black Sun, but I am not well-versed enough in Nazi/white supremacist symbols to rule out that it is some other more obscure rune. At any event I would not consider that photo to be evidence of...well, anything really.



Additionally, this invasion will not denazify Ukraine: it will nazify it.

Hell, a whole army of them seem to have showed up.
 
That anyone still dares to bring up this nonsensical issue say everything you need to know about these people. It is a completely bonkers claim used by someone who launched a war of aggression. An utterly ridiculous excuse by someone who is far more Nazi-like than anyone currently around.

Yes, Ukraine does have a few few Neo-Nazis in the country, so does basically every country. Yes, those people are also involved in defending their country. That's what nationalists tend to do. When under attack by a powerful enemy, the enemy of your enemy is your friend, regardless of how you think about him. That's how the Allies could work with the Soviet Union, even though it was an evil regime that had launched wars of aggression against Poland and Finland, and annexed smaller neighbours against their will. They deemed the downfall of Nazi Germany to be more important than keeping the moral highground of not allying with another warmonger. Hence Churchill's speech about if Hitler invaded hell. History is full of strange bedfellows working together against a common enemy, be it nations allying with former enemies or opposing ideologies, or a nation making use of its criminal elements against an enemy (e.g. the USA working with the Mafia to prevent German agents from operating on US soil).

Fact is, Ukraine is an actual democracy, unlike Russia. Corruption may be rampant, but not nearly as much as in Russia. There is free press in Ukraine, unlike in Russia. There are free elections and opposing political views that cause changes in who runs the government, unlike in Russia, where the weirdest accidents and criminal trials happen to those who could threaten the small group that runs the country. The Azov battalion was linked to a political party, guess how it fared in the elections, it didn't even got remotely close to entering the parliament. The far-right is utterly irrelevant on the political spectrum in Ukraine. Meanwhile in Russia a president can happily steal foreign territory, launch faux rebellions, and now start a war of aggression, while parliament is happily going along with it. When you have to persecute even those who don't actually say something, your nation is morally bankrupt and broken beyond repair. All that doesn't even include that Russia has far more Neo-Nazis than any other country.

One shouldn't glorify the Azov battalion. Its political views are abhorrent. But they aren't relevant at all, and they aren't the ones who are trying to destroy democracy in Ukraine, nor have they ever launched a war against someone. Pointing to them as some sort of excuse to justify Putin's utterly disgusting behaviour is shameful. A tiny group of Neo-Nazis with next to no influence get blown way out of proportion, while someone who actually runs his governent like a fascist dictatorship, including launching wars of aggression, somehow gets presented as being against that sort of thing. One either needs to be naive beyond belief, or purposefully pushing a narrative to suit the propaganda of the warmonger, to push attention in that direction.
 
Who knows what it could be, go and have a look (if it exists on the linked site - I just tried to find a database of these kinds of things).

The second image you've provided is definitely the Black Sun. However it would be nice to have a source. It looks like it was sourced from Shutterstock, and as you can see from this photo of Zelensky, there's context that makes it clear where the image is from.
I have found that it was published by British newspapers dailymail on Mar 6, 2022. Its about evacuation from Irpin.

There is the good site for reverse searching, https://tineye.com.

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On that I agree, if Russia lose this war Ukraine will be more nazify.
And USA is supporting that, there is a danger of born a new taliban of Europe
Get it straight Henri. Is Ukraine a hotbed of National Socialism or Radical Islamists? They rather different, you know.
 
not particularly worthy of fighting over TODAY but hey , NATO removed the picture from its twitter account , if one believes the reports . Anyone is really entitled to disbelieve a particularly noteworthy aim of the "ambush" in the Ukraine is legitimization of the Nazis , to create a weakening of the Holocaust (which gives too much power to people other people can not directly attack these days) , uhmm , in deference to great Ametican voterbase with Arbeit Macht Frei placards or something . Double bonus of mocking Putin and indeed all Russians when Russia loses (and that's gotta be 500% sure or something) that the Nazis who don't exist were actually in plain sight . Always ... Yeah , it is indeed a wonder why lsrael refuses to allow its weapons transferred to Ukraine .
 
lsrael refuses to allow its weapons transferred to Ukraine
Israel is in a unique position to negotiate the end of this war, being fairly friendly with both sides. I think it is sensible for them to keep out of the arms sales in this particular conflict so as not to jeopardize that.
 
actually they loathe Zelensky already .
 
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