Since I've been invited to participate in NES several times over the past few years, I'm going to toss in my two cents.
Why not post a poll in both of the relevant subforums? Here any random person can vote in it.
I don't think that would be as much a concern in Site Feedback as it would be in OT, where some people enjoy polls so much that many of them include a "downtown" or joke option as a matter of course.
I won't be voting, since I am not familiar enough with all the issues to have an informed opinion. I sincerely hope the poll accomplishes something useful and contributes to a more amicable kind of interaction between the groups on this forum and between CFC and The Frontier.
So the people who helped build this community over the past decade, who left because administration was mistreating them, and who continue to actively participate in the hobby and community (some of which still remains on CFC) has no right to input on the future of the hobby on this forum? We are effectively segregated from the thing we built because you say so?
There's no reason someone here couldn't post a link at The Frontier, is there?
I don't think that there will be any vote rigging. If I vote, I certainly hope that my vote will not be counted. If Perfection, one of my favorite posters, votes, I hope his vote will not be counted also. Now if formerly active folks who have left the community for the Frontier come back to vote, I hope their votes will be considered or at least given half or three quarter vote status. I think they are part of the situation. Having already voted with their feet logins, I would give their votes less weight, but their long history of support for NESing should be valued.
1. If you hope your vote wouldn't be counted, why bother to vote at all? You're a supermod, Birdjaguar. That in itself already gives you a lot more say over this situation than any one vote by a regular member. Is there a plan to carefully go through all the names of the voters and then search both forums to see if the voter has posted in one or both?
2. I have no idea if Perfection has ever been part of IOT or NES. If he has, why on earth would you want to deny him his right to vote? Of course, if he has never been part of either of these subforums, then he should abstain from voting since the decision wouldn't affect him either way.
3. Okay, this is ridiculous. First of all, you should realize that some activities that people discuss or do on this site also happen on other sites. If someone participates on another site
in addition to CFC, why would that make their vote any less valid than someone who only participates on CFC? The only thing that should matter in counting the validity of these votes is whether or not the voter is a. A member of CivFanatics (which should be obvious, since non-members can't vote); and b. A participant in either IOT, NES, or both
on this forum. Whether they also do so elsewhere is not the point and should not be used as an excuse to deny someone their right to vote on this or use some convoluted formula to make their votes count less. That's like saying that if a vote should ever come up that affects the SMAC forum, my vote wouldn't count because I also belong to the Alpha Centauri 2 forum.
Did some people vote with their fingers to leave CFC permanently? I suppose so; I have no idea. But I do know that some left temporarily then came back. And I daresay there are probably a fair number who actively participate in both places. You shouldn't be trying to find excuses to deny the validity of votes of people who dare take NES offsite; you should just count the votes of people who are CFC members who have participated in either or both IOT and NES.
That's what impartial, unbiased, and
fair moderators/admins should do.
How exactly do you plan on deciding who isn't a "real" NES forum member?
