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New leader elimination

Discussion in 'Civ - Ideas & Suggestions' started by RFormica, Jul 13, 2017.

  1. RFormica

    RFormica Chieftain

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    VOTING OPEN!
    You can vote once every 24 hours.
    Voting: -3 one leader and +1 another.

    There will be 5 winners .
    ----WINNER LEADER WILL BE CREATED!----
    #'s 2, 3 4, 5 may be created. No guarantees.

    AMERICA
    Thomas Jefferson
    James Monroe
    ARABIA
    Muʿāwiya
    Al-Mansur
    AUSTRALIA
    NOTE: I don't have the Australia DLC... or Poland DLC... or Macedon/Persia DLC, so someone else will have to test it if I make the mod
    Henry Parkes
    Robert Menzies
    AZTEC
    Acamapichtli
    Ahuitzotl
    BRAZIL
    Juscelino Kubitschek
    Pedro I
    CHINA
    King Wu of Zhou
    Yongle
    EGYPT
    Rameses III
    Khufu
    ENGLAND
    Elizabeth I
    Elizabeth II
    FRANCE
    Cardinal Richelieu
    Henry IV
    GERMANY
    Otto IV, Holy Roman Emperor
    Wilhelm II
    GREECE
    Solon
    Epimonidas
    INDIA
    Shah Jahan
    Shivaji
    JAPAN
    Meiji
    Kanmu
    KONGO
    Alvaro I
    Nkumbi a Mpudi
    NORWAY
    Harald V
    Sverre
    Eric Bloodaxe
    POLAND
    Boleslaw I
    Casmir III
    ROME
    Marcus Tullius Cicero
    Constantine
    RUSSIA
    Yaroslav II
    Alexander Nevsky
    SCYTHIA
    Ateas
    Palacus
    SPAIN
    Alfonso II
    Joseph Bonaparte
    SUMERIA
    Ur-Nammu
    Shulgi
    MACEDON
    Philip II
    Caranus
    PERSIA
    Shapur II
    Nader Shah

     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2017 at 2:59 PM
  2. God of Kings

    God of Kings Ruler of all heads of state

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    China could be led by Yongle.

    India can be led by Akbar or Shah Jahan.
     
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  3. Potato Based

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    Well, Like I said in the other thread, I think Constantine I would be a good choice for the third nomination for Rome.
     
  4. RFormica

    RFormica Chieftain

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    Akbar already won on the Never Before Seen Leaders page, so I don't want there to be two versions of the same mod.
     
  5. God of Kings

    God of Kings Ruler of all heads of state

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    Ah.

    Darius could make a return for Persia.
     
  6. RFormica

    RFormica Chieftain

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    Darius has been added.

    Needed:
    Greek, Aztec, Persian, Norwegian, Kongolese, Japanese, Indian, Arabian, Australia, Brazilian, and French leaders.
     
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2017
  7. Morningcalm

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    Greek: Solon
    Russia: Ivan the Terrible (Putin as a suggested leader is surely a joke)
    Japan: Oda Nobunaga (muskets bonus)
    India: Akbar the Great / Chandragupta Maurya
    France: Henri IV "the Good"
    Sumeria: NOT Hammurabi, NOT Sargon of Akkad, but Ur-Nammu or Shulgi
     
  8. RFormica

    RFormica Chieftain

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    You were right about Putin :lol:

    JFD has already done Ivan the Terrible, and Senshi has already done Nobunga.
     
  9. God of Kings

    God of Kings Ruler of all heads of state

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    George W. Bush could be removed as well.

    Thomas Jefferson could take his place.
     
  10. RFormica

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    Agreed, I prefer older leaders.
     
  11. RFormica

    RFormica Chieftain

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    Voting Open!!!!
    Here's your voting template:
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    Thomas Jefferson 20
    James Monroe 20
    Martin Van Buren 20
    Muʿāwiya 20
    Al-Mansur 20
    Emir Faisal 20
    Malcolm Turnbull 20
    Henry Parkes 20
    Robert Menzies 20
    Cuauhtemoc 20
    Acamapichtli 20
    Ahuitzotl 20
    Prudente de Morais 20
    Juscelino Kubitschek
    Pedro I 20
    King Wu of Zhou 20
    Cao Cao 20
    Yongle 20
    Rameses III 20
    Narmer 20
    Khufu 20
    Elizabeth I 20
    Elizabeth II 20
    George III 20
    Louis XVI 20
    Cardinal Richelieu 20
    Henry IV 20
    Otto IV 20
    Maxmilian I 20
    Wilhelm II 20
    Solon 20
    Draco 20
    Epimodinas 20
    Shah Jahan 20
    Chandragputa Mourya 20
    Shivaji 20
    Minamoto no Yoritomo 20
    Meji 20
    Kanmu 20
    João I Nzinga a Nkuwu 20
    Nzinga Mbande 20
    Nkumbi a Mpudi 20
    Harald V 20
    Sverre 20
    Eric Bloodaxe 20
    Boleslaw I 20
    Hedwig Jagiellon 20
    Casmir III 20
    Caesar Augustus 20
    Marcus Tullius Cicero 20
    Constantine 20
    Yaroslav II 20
    Alexander Nevsky 20
    Nicholas I 20
    Ateus 20
    Palacus 20
    Skilurus 20
    Alfonso II 20
    Eleanor I 20
    Joseph Bonaparte 20
    Ur-Nammu 20
    Shulgi 20
    Dumuzid the Shepherd 20
    Philip II 20
    Caranus 20
    Seleucus I Nictador 20
    Darius 20
    Shapur II 20
    Nader Shah 20
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  12. Potato Based

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    Thomas Jefferson 20
    James Monroe 20
    Martin Van Buren 20
    Muʿāwiya 20
    Al-Mansur 20
    Emir Faisal 20
    Malcolm Turnbull 20
    Henry Parkes 20
    Robert Menzies 20
    Cuauhtemoc 20
    Acamapichtli 20
    Ahuitzotl 20
    Prudente de Morais 20
    Juscelino Kubitschek
    Pedro I 20
    King Wu of Zhou 20
    Cao Cao 20
    Yongle 20
    Rameses III 20
    Narmer 20
    Khufu 20
    Elizabeth I 20
    Elizabeth II 20
    George III 20
    Louis XVI 20
    Cardinal Richelieu 20
    Henry IV 20
    Otto IV 20
    Maxmilian I 20
    Wilhelm II 20
    Solon 20
    Draco 20
    Epimodinas 20
    Shah Jahan 20
    Chandragputa Mourya 20
    Shivaji 20
    Minamoto no Yoritomo 20
    Meji 20
    Kanmu 20
    João I Nzinga a Nkuwu 20
    Nzinga Mbande 20
    Nkumbi a Mpudi 20
    Harald V 20
    Sverre 20
    Eric Bloodaxe 20
    Boleslaw I 20
    Hedwig Jagiellon 20
    Casmir III 20
    Caesar Augustus 20
    Marcus Tullius Cicero 20
    Constantine 21 (20 + 1) A Roman Empire with religious bonuses seems pretty interesting to me.
    Yaroslav II 20
    Alexander Nevsky 20
    Nicholas I 20
    Ateus 20
    Palacus 20
    Skilurus 20
    Alfonso II 20
    Eleanor I 20
    Joseph Bonaparte 20
    Ur-Nammu 20
    Shulgi 20
    Dumuzid the Shepherd 20
    Philip II 17 (20 - 3) Would be confusing since we already have Philip II of Spain, also I feel he is too similar to his son.
    Caranus 20
    Seleucus I Nictador 20
    Darius 20
    Shapur II 20
    Nader Shah 20
     
  13. altayrneto

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    Thomas Jefferson 20
    James Monroe 20
    Martin Van Buren 20
    Muʿāwiya 20
    Al-Mansur 20
    Emir Faisal 20
    Malcolm Turnbull 20
    Henry Parkes 20
    Robert Menzies 20
    Cuauhtemoc 20
    Acamapichtli 20
    Ahuitzotl 20
    Prudente de Morais 20
    Juscelino Kubitschek 20
    Pedro I 17 (20-3)Just no, he was a terrible leader, and when he got tired of the rulership, he abandoned the Brazilian throne to his 5 yrs old son (Pedro II).
    King Wu of Zhou 20
    Cao Cao 20
    Yongle 20
    Rameses III 20
    Narmer 20
    Khufu 20
    Elizabeth I 20
    Elizabeth II 20
    George III 20
    Louis XVI 20
    Cardinal Richelieu 20
    Henry IV 20
    Otto IV 20
    Maxmilian I 20
    Wilhelm II 20
    Solon 20
    Draco 20
    Epimodinas 20
    Shah Jahan 21 (20+1) Would be nice to see a Mughal India!
    Chandragputa Mourya 20
    Shivaji 20
    Minamoto no Yoritomo 20
    Meiji 20
    Kanmu 20
    João I Nzinga a Nkuwu 20
    Nzinga Mbande 20
    Nkumbi a Mpudi 20
    Harald V 20
    Sverre 20
    Eric Bloodaxe 20
    Boleslaw I 20
    Hedwig Jagiellon 20
    Casmir III 20
    Caesar Augustus 20
    Marcus Tullius Cicero 20
    Constantine 21
    Yaroslav II 20
    Alexander Nevsky 20
    Nicholas I 20
    Ateus 20
    Palacus 20
    Skilurus 20
    Alfonso II 20
    Eleanor I 20
    Joseph Bonaparte 20
    Ur-Nammu 20
    Shulgi 20
    Dumuzid the Shepherd 20
    Philip II 17
    Caranus 20
    Seleucus I Nictador 20
    Darius 20
    Shapur II 20
    Nader Shah 20
     
  14. Lord of War N02

    Lord of War N02 Lord of Southeast Asia

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    Thomas Jefferson 20
    James Monroe 20
    Martin Van Buren 20
    Muʿāwiya 20
    Al-Mansur 20
    Emir Faisal 20
    Malcolm Turnbull 20
    Henry Parkes 20
    Robert Menzies 20
    Cuauhtemoc 20
    Acamapichtli 20
    Ahuitzotl 20
    Prudente de Morais 20
    Juscelino Kubitschek 20
    Pedro I 17
    King Wu of Zhou 20
    Cao Cao 20
    Yongle 20
    Rameses III 20
    Narmer 20
    Khufu 20
    Elizabeth I 20
    Elizabeth II 20
    George III 20
    Louis XVI 20
    Cardinal Richelieu 20
    Henry IV 20
    Otto IV 20
    Maxmilian I 20
    Wilhelm II 20
    Solon 20
    Draco 20
    Epimodinas 20
    Shah Jahan 21
    Chandragputa Mourya 20
    Shivaji 20
    Minamoto no Yoritomo 20
    Meiji 20
    Kanmu 20
    João I Nzinga a Nkuwu 20
    Nzinga Mbande 20
    Nkumbi a Mpudi 20
    Harald V 20
    Sverre 20
    Eric Bloodaxe 20
    Boleslaw I 20
    Hedwig Jagiellon 20
    Casmir III 20
    Caesar Augustus 20
    Marcus Tullius Cicero 20
    Constantine 21
    Yaroslav II 20
    Alexander Nevsky 20
    Nicholas I 20
    Ateus 20
    Palacus 20
    Skilurus 20
    Alfonso II 20
    Eleanor I 20
    Joseph Bonaparte 20
    Ur-Nammu 20
    Shulgi 20
    Dumuzid the Shepherd 20
    Philip II 17 - 3 = 14, I agree what Potato Based said, its will confuse with Philip II of Spain
    Caranus 20
    Seleucus I Nictador 20
    Darius 20
    Shapur II 20
    Nader Shah 20 + 1 = 21, Good Choice for Islamic Persia
     
  15. conorbebe

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    Thomas Jefferson 20
    James Monroe 20
    Martin Van Buren 20
    Muʿāwiya 20
    Al-Mansur 20
    Emir Faisal 20
    Malcolm Turnbull 20
    Henry Parkes 20
    Robert Menzies 20
    Cuauhtemoc 20
    Acamapichtli 20
    Ahuitzotl 20
    Prudente de Morais 20
    Juscelino Kubitschek 20
    Pedro I 17
    King Wu of Zhou 20
    Cao Cao 20
    Yongle 20
    Rameses III 20
    Narmer 20
    Khufu 20
    Elizabeth I 20
    Elizabeth II 21 (20 + 1) It would be interesting to see how you implement my country's current reigning monarch into Civ VI, so Liz II gets my vote. We've seen enough of Elizabeth I anyway :p
    George III 20
    Louis XVI 20
    Cardinal Richelieu 20
    Henry IV 20
    Otto IV 20
    Maxmilian I 20
    Wilhelm II 20
    Solon 20
    Draco 20
    Epimodinas 20
    Shah Jahan 21
    Chandragputa Mourya 20
    Shivaji 20
    Minamoto no Yoritomo 20
    Meiji 20
    Kanmu 20
    João I Nzinga a Nkuwu 20
    Nzinga Mbande 20
    Nkumbi a Mpudi 20
    Harald V 20
    Sverre 20
    Eric Bloodaxe 20
    Boleslaw I 20
    Hedwig Jagiellon 20
    Casmir III 20
    Caesar Augustus 20
    Marcus Tullius Cicero 20
    Constantine 21
    Yaroslav II 20
    Alexander Nevsky 20
    Nicholas I 20
    Ateus 20
    Palacus 20
    Skilurus 20
    Alfonso II 20
    Eleanor I 20
    Joseph Bonaparte 20
    Ur-Nammu 20
    Shulgi 20
    Dumuzid the Shepherd 20
    Philip II 14
    Caranus 17 (20 - 3) From what I can tell, he seems to be significant only for being the first king of Macedon. I don't place Macedon very high on my list of civs I'd like to see an alt leader for either.
    Seleucus I Nictador 20
    Darius 20
    Shapur II 20
    Nader Shah 21
     
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  16. Potato Based

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    Thomas Jefferson 20
    James Monroe 20
    Martin Van Buren 20
    Muʿāwiya 20
    Al-Mansur 20
    Emir Faisal 20
    Malcolm Turnbull 20
    Henry Parkes 20
    Robert Menzies 20
    Cuauhtemoc 20
    Acamapichtli 20
    Ahuitzotl 20
    Prudente de Morais 20
    Juscelino Kubitschek 20
    Pedro I 17
    King Wu of Zhou 20
    Cao Cao 20
    Yongle 20
    Rameses III 20
    Narmer 20
    Khufu 20
    Elizabeth I 20
    Elizabeth II 21
    George III 20
    Louis XVI 20
    Cardinal Richelieu 20
    Henry IV 20
    Otto IV 20
    Maxmilian I 20
    Wilhelm II 20
    Solon 20
    Draco 20
    Epimodinas 20
    Shah Jahan 21
    Chandragputa Mourya 20
    Shivaji 20
    Minamoto no Yoritomo 20
    Meiji 20
    Kanmu 20
    João I Nzinga a Nkuwu 20
    Nzinga Mbande 20
    Nkumbi a Mpudi 20
    Harald V 20
    Sverre 20
    Eric Bloodaxe 20
    Boleslaw I 20
    Hedwig Jagiellon 20
    Casmir III 20
    Caesar Augustus 20
    Marcus Tullius Cicero 20
    Constantine 22 (21 + 1) Same reasoning as before.
    Yaroslav II 20
    Alexander Nevsky 20
    Nicholas I 20
    Ateus 20
    Palacus 20
    Skilurus 20
    Alfonso II 20
    Eleanor I 20
    Joseph Bonaparte 20
    Ur-Nammu 20
    Shulgi 20
    Dumuzid the Shepherd 20
    Philip II 11 (14-3) Might as well get him out of the way, this thread is going take a while if it gets anywhere.
    Caranus 17
    Seleucus I Nictador 20
    Darius 20
    Shapur II 20
    Nader Shah 21
     
  17. Shalvan

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    Emir Faisal 20
    Malcolm Turnbull 20
    Henry Parkes 20
    Robert Menzies 20
    Cuauhtemoc 20
    Acamapichtli 20
    Ahuitzotl 20
    Prudente de Morais 20
    Juscelino Kubitschek 20
    Pedro I 17
    King Wu of Zhou 20
    Cao Cao 20
    Yongle 20
    Rameses III 20
    Narmer 20
    Khufu 20
    Elizabeth I 20
    Elizabeth II 21
    George III 20
    Louis XVI 20
    Cardinal Richelieu 20
    Henry IV 20
    Otto IV 20
    Maxmilian I 20
    Wilhelm II 20
    Solon 20
    Draco 20
    Epimodinas 20
    Shah Jahan 21
    Chandragputa Mourya 20
    Shivaji 20
    Minamoto no Yoritomo 20
    Meiji 20
    Kanmu 20
    João I Nzinga a Nkuwu 20
    Nzinga Mbande 20
    Nkumbi a Mpudi 20
    Harald V 20
    Sverre 20
    Eric Bloodaxe 20
    Boleslaw I 20
    Hedwig Jagiellon 20-3=17 Jadwiga is a polish version of Hedwig. Doesn't make sense to have two leaders with the same name for the same country.
    Casmir III 20
    Caesar Augustus 20
    Marcus Tullius Cicero 20
    Constantine 22
    Yaroslav II 20
    Alexander Nevsky 20
    Nicholas I 20
    Ateus 20
    Palacus 20
    Skilurus 20
    Alfonso II 20
    Eleanor I 20
    Joseph Bonaparte 20
    Ur-Nammu 20
    Shulgi 20
    Dumuzid the Shepherd 20
    Philip II 11
    Caranus 17
    Seleucus I Nictador 20
    Darius 20
    Shapur II 20+1=21 I like Sassanids.
    Nader Shah 21
     
  18. RFormica

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    Emir Faisal 20
    Malcolm Turnbull 20
    Henry Parkes 20
    Robert Menzies 20
    Cuauhtemoc 20
    Acamapichtli 20
    Ahuitzotl 20
    Prudente de Morais 20
    Juscelino Kubitschek 20
    Pedro I 17 - 3 = 14 I agree with @altayrneto
    King Wu of Zhou 20
    Cao Cao 20
    Yongle 20 + 1 = 21 A Naval China would be neat.
    Rameses III 20
    Narmer 20
    Khufu 20
    Elizabeth I 20
    Elizabeth II 21
    George III 20
    Louis XVI 20
    Cardinal Richelieu 20
    Henry IV 20
    Otto IV 20
    Maxmilian I 20
    Wilhelm II 20
    Solon 20
    Draco 20
    Epimodinas 20
    Shah Jahan 21
    Chandragputa Mourya 20
    Shivaji 20
    Minamoto no Yoritomo 20
    Meiji 20
    Kanmu 20
    João I Nzinga a Nkuwu 20
    Nzinga Mbande 20
    Nkumbi a Mpudi 20
    Harald V 20
    Sverre 20
    Eric Bloodaxe 20
    Boleslaw I 20
    Hedwig Jagiellon 17
    Casmir III 20
    Caesar Augustus 20
    Marcus Tullius Cicero 20
    Constantine 22
    Yaroslav II 20
    Alexander Nevsky 20
    Nicholas I 20
    Ateus 20
    Palacus 20
    Skilurus 20
    Alfonso II 20
    Eleanor I 20
    Joseph Bonaparte 20
    Ur-Nammu 20
    Shulgi 20
    Dumuzid the Shepherd 20
    Philip II 11
    Caranus 17
    Seleucus I Nictador 20
    Darius 20
    Shapur II 21
    Nader Shah 21
     
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    Robert Menzies 20
    Cuauhtemoc 20
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    Prudente de Morais 20
    Juscelino Kubitschek 20
    Pedro I 14
    King Wu of Zhou 20
    Cao Cao 20
    Yongle 21
    Rameses III 20
    Narmer 20
    Khufu 20+1=21 Why hasn't he appeared in civ before?
    Elizabeth I 20
    Elizabeth II 21
    George III 20
    Louis XVI 20
    Cardinal Richelieu 20
    Henry IV 20
    Otto IV 20
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    Epimodinas 20
    Shah Jahan 21
    Chandragputa Mourya 20
    Shivaji 20
    Minamoto no Yoritomo 20
    Meiji 20
    Kanmu 20
    João I Nzinga a Nkuwu 20
    Nzinga Mbande 20
    Nkumbi a Mpudi 20
    Harald V 20
    Sverre 20
    Eric Bloodaxe 20
    Boleslaw I 20
    Hedwig Jagiellon 17
    Casmir III 20
    Caesar Augustus 20
    Marcus Tullius Cicero 20
    Constantine 22
    Yaroslav II 20
    Alexander Nevsky 20
    Nicholas I 20
    Ateus 20
    Palacus 20
    Skilurus 20
    Alfonso II 20
    Eleanor I 20
    Joseph Bonaparte 20-3=17 He seems like a very weak choice, he only became ruler of Spain because his younger brother handed him the thrown. He was not well liked nor was he seen as anymore than a shadow of his younger brother.
    Ur-Nammu 20
    Shulgi 20
    Dumuzid the Shepherd 20
    Philip II 11
    Caranus 17
    Seleucus I Nictador 20
    Darius 20
    Shapur II 21
    Nader Shah 21
     
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    Malcolm Turnbull 20
    Henry Parkes 20
    Robert Menzies 20
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    Ahuitzotl 20
    Prudente de Morais 20
    Juscelino Kubitschek 20
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    King Wu of Zhou 20
    Cao Cao 20
    Yongle 21
    Rameses III 20
    Narmer 20
    Khufu 21
    Elizabeth I 20
    Elizabeth II 21
    George III 20
    Louis XVI 20
    Cardinal Richelieu 20
    Henry IV 20
    Otto IV 20
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    Epimodinas 20
    Shah Jahan 21
    Chandragupta Maurya 20
    Shivaji (20+1)=21 Maratha's best ruler seems suitable for an alternate Indian leader.
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    Meiji 20
    Kanmu 20
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    Nzinga Mbande 20
    Nkumbi a Mpudi 20
    Harald V 20
    Sverre 20
    Eric Bloodaxe 20
    Boleslaw I 20
    Hedwig Jagiellon 17
    Casmir III 20
    Caesar Augustus 20
    Marcus Tullius Cicero 20
    Constantine 22
    Yaroslav II 20
    Alexander Nevsky 20
    Nicholas I 20
    Ateas 20
    Palacus 20-3=17 Insignificant Scythian ruler
    Skilurus 20
    Alfonso II 20
    Eleanor I 20
    Joseph Bonaparte 17
    Ur-Nammu 20
    Shulgi 20
    Dumuzid the Shepherd 20
    Philip II 11
    Caranus 17
    Seleucus I Nicator 20
    Darius 20
    Shapur II 21
    Nader Shah 21
     

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