Plan for Mosque III...

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why is no-on complaining about the mosque in the Pentagon?

Interesting to follow how comments about that Pentagon prayer room seem to be totally invisible to those who oppose this ground 000 mozkue.

This is because some people can only hold one idea in their head at a time, and can't make room for reasoning either.

 

[ParkCungHee]

I suppose he does say some smart things from time to time, but overall he is kinda crazy..

No one denies he's crazy. But in politics, the crazy ones are the only ones you can trust.

 

[Theige]

It's because it's a business model that doesn't work.
Buy a large plot of unused land, build a large, box shaped building on it, place everything someone could need within the box, offer cheap prices from low overhead, and save shoppers the long traveling distance between things otherwise.
You will note that New York City is not big on: Unusued Land, Low Overhead, Long Traveling Distances between things you need. It's like wondering where there are so few Gyro Carts and News Stands in Rural Pennsylvania.

The Ikea in Brooklyn does pretty well

Target now has 3 locations in NYC; its Atlantic Ave store is one of its busiest in America

There are several Home Depots

Costco opened a store recently in East Harlem

BestBuy has many locations

If Wal-Mart wanted to build somewhere in New York City, they could, and it would probably be a success

Edit: And it was announced in April 2010 that Wal-Mart is actively looking to open its first store in NYC

 

[Traitorfish]

No one denies he's crazy. But in politics, the crazy ones are the only ones you can trust.

"Guy Fawkes was the only man ever to enter parliament with honest intentions" sort of thing?

 

[ParkCungHee]

"Guy Fawkes was the only man ever to enter parliament with honest intentions" sort of thing?

I suppose. The same rule applies in literature.

 

[imperialman]

It says a great deal about American society (some parts) that this is even an Issue.

 

[warpus]

relevant:

 

[ParadigmShifter]

So this is just about the election?
I thought the Republicans already had the xenophobes and simpleton vote tied up.

 

[Theige]

So this is just about the election?
I thought the Republicans already had the xenophobes and simpleton vote tied up.

Probably falls under "seeking to energize their party's base," as well as "distract from the more important issues where Republicans are perceived as weaker"

 

[dwaxe]

No, my dear Watson. Everything is about the election.

 

[Ajidica]

Once again, I would like to point out there all already Muslims worshipping at the building where the Mosque will be, in fact, they have been there for the past year.

 

[MobBoss]

Once again, I would like to point out there all already Muslims worshipping at the building where the Mosque will be, in fact, they have been there for the past year.

Now wait a minute. In the previous threads it was mentioned that worship would only be conducted inside the mosque, and not in the 'community center' et al.

Apparently that wasnt an entirely factual statement, eh?

So, is it listed as a mosque already?

 

[Theige]

Now wait a minute. In the previous threads it was mentioned that worship would only be conducted inside the mosque, and not in the 'community center' et al.

Apparently that wasnt an entirely factual statement, eh?

So, is it listed as a mosque already?

It is not a mosque, nor is it ever going to be.

It is a Community Center. The community center will have a "prayer room"

The entire center is modeled after the "92nd Street Young Men's and Young Women's Hebrew Association" which is itself modeled after the YMCA

 

[Leonel]

Now wait a minute. In the previous threads it was mentioned that worship would only be conducted inside the mosque, and not in the 'community center' et al.

Apparently that wasnt an entirely factual statement, eh?

So, is it listed as a mosque already?

Yes it's all a Muslim conspiracy.

 

[Ajidica]

Now wait a minute. In the previous threads it was mentioned that worship would only be conducted inside the mosque, and not in the 'community center' et al.

Apparently that wasnt an entirely factual statement, eh?

So, is it listed as a mosque already?

Quit nitpicking. I typed mosque because it was faster than community center.
If that is the best argument you can make against a high school senior, I think we know who won this argument.

EDIT: In the Jesus and the politcal compass thread you kept spelling Pilate as Pilot. Does that make the rest of your post invalid as it was referring to an airplane pilot rather than the Roman Governor of Palestine?

 

[Mise]

No Muslim is allowed to pray at a site damaged by the 9/11 terrorist attacks?

Who said this?

No-one did

Thanks for clearing that up.

MobBoss, is it okay for people to worship Allah in a building that was damaged by the 9/11 terrorist attacks or not?

 

[MobBoss]

It is not a mosque, nor is it ever going to be.

It is a Community Center. The community center will have a "prayer room"

Hmmm. The planners have referred to it as a mosque, the major media all refer to it as a mosque. Of course its a mosque. A really nice mosque, but still a mosque.

MobBoss, is it okay for people to worship Allah in a building that was damaged by the 9/11 terrorist attacks or not?

They can pray wherever they want to just like anyone else can.

Thats not the issue here. Nor has it ever been.

 

[Ajidica]

Even if it is a mosque, why should it matter? It is promoting interfaith tolerance and understanding in an area where Muslims are already praying, and have been for the past year.

 

[Mise]

Hmmm. The planners have referred to it as a mosque, the major media all refer to it as a mosque. Of course its a mosque. A really nice mosque, but still a mosque.



They can pray wherever they want to just like anyone else can.

Thats not the issue here. Nor has it ever been.

The issue appears to be referring to it as a "mosque", rather than "a building in which Muslims can worship Allah". You're perfectly okay with them worshipping in a building damaged by the 9/11 terrorist attacks, just as long as they don't refer to that building as a mosque. Seems pretty dumb to me.

 

[MobBoss]

Quit nitpicking. I typed mosque because it was faster than community center.

Does that mean you think in this case mosque = community center then? Its not 'nitpicking' since one side, namely the one your on, has desparately tried to say the two arent the same thing. But then you type in mosque as code for community center simply because its shorter?

/boggle.

If that is the best argument you can make against a high school senior, I think we know who won this argument.

I didnt realize it was a contest and I certainly have no need to keep score wtih a high school senior. But if it makes you feel better to do it, go right ahead.

EDIT: In the Jesus and the politcal compass thread you kept spelling Pilate as Pilot. Does that make the rest of your post invalid as it was referring to an airplane pilot rather than the Roman Governor of Palestine?

Rofl, mine was a simple typo, nor were we trying to define a difference in Pilate and a pilot either.

Its a mosque. Thats how its being argued against, and labeled by all the major media to include the very own planners. Like I said, follow the tax exemption paperwork, if the whole building is under a single number - its a mosque, just like any church organization would be under a single number regardless of how many buildings it owned or ministries it sponsored or events held at their own community centers.

Let it go already. The semantics game isnt one your going to win in this particular case.

The issue appears to be referring to it as a "mosque", rather than "a building in which Muslims can worship Allah". You're perfectly okay with them worshipping in a building damaged by the 9/11 terrorist attacks, just as long as they don't refer to that building as a mosque. Seems pretty dumb to me.

No, I object to the planners building a mosque that close in proximity to ground zero.

The reason sounds dumb to you because you have been arguing its a freedom of religion thing when it simply hasnt been. Ever.