Random Thoughts Sechs: Eeeeehhhh...

[Lexicus]

All it appears to do is change the standard from "reasonable" to "necessary" but without actually specifying what "necessary" means it will collapse into the same standard as "reasonable." If there is no actual standard apart from the cop deemed it necessary/reasonable at the time, then the status quo will remain unchanged.

 

[rah]

Maybe juries will differentiate. Millions and millions of dollars paid out in jury awards can sometimes catch peoples attention.
But I'm being a tad optimistic while I think reality wise, you're probably right.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

I'm still not sure if California Uber Alles is pro or anti Jerry Brown.

 

[cardgame]

Maybe juries will differentiate. Millions and millions of dollars paid out in jury awards can sometimes catch peoples attention.
But I'm being a tad optimistic while I think reality wise, you're probably right.

If it were another scenario besides the police, it might matter, but no.

 

[Takhisis]

Don't worry. Most of the sub genres of metal aren't worth disliking because you're old.

They're worth disliking because they suck! >.> <.< >.>

Not event the fact that I hear Nathan Fillion's voice reading out your every post to me can make me think of this post as acceptable, sir.

 

[Gori the Grey]

The car in front of me had a trailer hitch. The brand name was emblazoned right on the hitch itself: Hidden Hitch.

 

[Cutlass]

I just realized that metal music is called that because it's harder than rock music. And metal is harder than rock.

I'm a little slow sometimes.

Metal music is a subset of rock music. It isn't really all that different, and there's a lot of overlap. The term 'heavy metal' for music came from the band Black Sabbath, and the reason that that band had a notably different sound was that their lead guitarist, Tony Iommi, had lost part of 2 fingers in an industrial accident. And so when he fingered the cords on the guitar, he was fingering them in a different place, and so had a different sound.

But beyond having a somewhat different sound and style, it isn't different in any meaningful way from other rock music.

 

[yung.carl.jung]

a really interesting topic. I'm still not quite sure how to best define "rock", what approach to take. imho there's fundamentally 2 different kinds of rock music:

rock, as in a composition: guitar, bass, drums as the focus, possibly but not necessarily a singer and any amount of other instruments. the rockband. this can musically be just about anything, and has great variation. from velvet underground to tortoise the rockband encompasses a huge array of western music from the 1950s onwards.

rock, as in rock music, the historical genre. rock is based in blues string instruments and rhythm section, and many of those principles were later altered and integrated into punk, metal, and many other spawns of rock music. this music is relatively similiar from a composition pov, but still has quite a variety of styles if you really think about it. black metal and progressive rock, but also psychedelic rock really push the boundaries of rock, so even then it's a pretty fluent genre.

is this rock music? it's certainly a rock formation, but has little/none of the blues roots in it. kind of difficult to tell, even for myself. genres only work insofar that music remains generic/formulaic

 

[Hygro]

Drawing distinctions between genres is tricky for sure. Metal is a subsection of rock, perhaps, or its own thing perhaps. Where do you draw the lines among disco, house, and techno? Is drum & bass part of reggae? Or let's stretch those bookends: Is dubstep part of ska?

It seems each subgenre's macro changes are smaller but lead to great (sized) things. The global dance scene may have less buzz than disco in its heyday, but is definitely a larger phenomenon. The metal tradition that sprung out of rock is now greater than the rock that gave birth to it by every metric but cultural dominance.

 

[The_J]

Dubstep part of Ska o_O? That's stretching it.

 

[Traitorfish]

Drawing distinctions between genres is tricky for sure. Metal is a subsection of rock, perhaps, or its own thing perhaps. Where do you draw the lines among disco, house, and techno? Is drum & bass part of reggae? Or let's stretch those bookends: Is dubstep part of ska?

I think the problem is when we try to impose genres as a set of fixed taxonomies, as if we were categorising exotic insects. Genres are I think more than anything else practical things, they describe the ways in which different artists cluster around centre styles or devices, and the way that audiences cluster around them, and this is something that changes over time. (So do the insects, I suppose, but not at a rate which worries anyone except paleontologists.) "Metal" use to describe a stylistic trend within rock music, and then a type of rock music, and now it's functionally a distinct genre, with a distinct set of references and a distinct audience.

 

[Commodore]

People say kink-shaming is bad, but what if kink-shaming people is my kink? Would that mean society is kink-shaming me by telling me it's wrong to kink-shame people?

 

[hobbsyoyo]

I feel like you've posted that before...dunno

 

[Lohrenswald]

I've tried something drastic and installed a browser extension to block youtube in a hope to spend my time in more meaningful ways
I'm probably gonna get like withdrawal issues though

 

[Gori the Grey]

in a hope to spend my time in more meaningful ways

Like coming back to post here on CFCOT?

 

[The_J]

People say kink-shaming is bad, but what if kink-shaming people is my kink? Would that mean society is kink-shaming me by telling me it's wrong to kink-shame people?

Do intolerant people deserve being tolerated?
That's not supposed to be some kind of snark. It's kinda the same issue.

I've tried something drastic and installed a browser extension to block youtube in a hope to spend my time in more meaningful ways
I'm probably gonna get like withdrawal issues though

I have no idea how this works for people. I'd uninstall this at the first occasion I'd need to.

 

[Lohrenswald]

Like coming back to post here on CFCOT?

I mean potentially, although it's not like high on the list lol

I've got like at least 200 books I'd like to read, for example

And even things like playing video games is at this point more meaningful than youtube

Other, less banal, stuff too, but like it's been a huge time sink I really ought to get away from

I have no idea how this works for people. I'd uninstall this at the first occasion I'd need to.

I mean potentially there could be a time I'd "need" to go on youtube (or possibly really want to, for example to listen to music), but like, it's somewhat easy to unblock, and I can just look in another browser
I hope not to, though

 

[yung.carl.jung]

I've tried something drastic and installed a browser extension to block youtube in a hope to spend my time in more meaningful ways
I'm probably gonna get like withdrawal issues though

wow man I've done the exact same 20 times now. feels good to know I ain't the only one.

I have no idea how this works for people. I'd uninstall this at the first occasion I'd need to.

it don't

Do intolerant people deserve being tolerated?

People say kink-shaming is bad, but what if kink-shaming people is my kink? Would that mean society is kink-shaming me by telling me it's wrong to kink-shame people?

 

[Commodore]

I feel like you've posted that before...dunno

I don't think I have, but who knows?

 

[Takhisis]

People say kink-shaming is bad, but what if kink-shaming people is my kink? Would that mean society is kink-shaming me by telling me it's wrong to kink-shame people?

Are Cretans involved?