Luckymoose
The World is Mine
Everytime I see OOC orders the first thing that comes to mind is that the player is playing OOC. If you play OOC the mod has to be sure of what you know IC and what you say OOC.
Show me your orders/battle plans!
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Abaddon
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FëuroNES: Let's Get Medieval
Any comments?
Spoiler Constanbul I :
Spoiler Constanbul II :
Spoiler Constanbul III :
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flyingchicken
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<"somewhat perfected" *beep* does not compute.>
Anyway, (@Abaddon:) IMHO, there are too many dashes where formatting could have done. But that's just me and my personal biases. You should start worrying less about orders and more about stories, because it's highly unfair that Fëanor has to do most of the work in that field.
Anyway, (@Abaddon:) IMHO, there are too many dashes where formatting could have done. But that's just me and my personal biases. You should start worrying less about orders and more about stories, because it's highly unfair that Fëanor has to do most of the work in that field.
Abaddon
Deity
True, I am shocking at writing stories.. only BirdNes had got more than a handful from me.
Angst
Rambling and inconsistent
From first turn in N3S
Hu’ut - lord_joakim
Economy: Strong
Military: 60,000 men, 10 ships
Culture: Hu’ut, Strong
Description: A powerful nation, if not a rich one, Hu’ut went through a vicious civil war between the Magio and Dha cults, with the former and the god Hu’atbka finally triumphing. While they are not as mistrustful of their neighbors as the Sesh River Valley is, there is still some resentment between these people and the Salgaron. Trade, even within the nation, is dominated by foreigners.
Spending
- Spend heavily in military. Spears should be produced en masse so that my nation is ready to conscript and train peasants. Also, four new barracks should be founded along the Hu'ut coast to the Kainoan Sea. This should help the path of warfare greatly.
- Spend partly in city building. New houses should be replacing the old ones for my nobles. City walls should be fortified with stone instead of wood in the villages. This should strengthen my defenses and infrastructure.
- Spend very little in fishing industry. The Hu'ut have just recently incorporated fishing in their economical model. Build more fishing boats for the people to buy. This should strengthen my domestic economy slightly.
- Revoke some of the rights of the Dha. They will not be allowed to enter public merchant houses or larger marketplaces. They are allowed to sell property to the king for lesser than normal - it should give me a minor trade economy increase, as I can get some wares cheaper. The Dha are not powerful or numerous enough to revolt, so there would not be a larger stability decrease because of this. Only 6% of the populacy follow the Dha way while 83% follow the Magio way.
Diplomacy
- I have begun cooperating with the Serat (Abaddon).
- I am invading my old enemies, the Salgaron, with support from the Serat (Abaddon).
Other stuff
The invasion of Salgaron is meant to end the ancient blood feud between the two people. The cause of the war was a minor caravan raid by Salgaron bandits in the Senet desert. This led to a row of diplomatic problems, and ended with the declaration of war by Hu'ut against Salgaron.
Strategy and goal of the war is to secure the Salgaron capital, and to make sure the Salgaron does not capture any of my own cities (Especially not Jahip). The tactics are as such:
Skirmish of the Had river
Sending out the powerful navy of Hu'ut (the "Hu'ut Ke'yhipolsto" - Hu'ut Barbed Fishermen), I will reach Salgaron city very fast. Travelling quick by sea, they should be unable to create a powerful navy before it is too late. Warlord Ge'e'lopotu will lead the ships. This will blockade their capital and disable the Salgaron building ships, transporting troops to my capital. Green line is ship route, brown area is where the ships should do the blockade.
Defending Hiuttubupulosolamanos
A priority of this war is to protect my capital from danger. A minor garrison should be placed at the purple area, making invasions on the northern side of the Had river impossible. This garrison is lead by captain Ettiupusalo, and if Salgaron city is captured, he should move his troops towards it.
Siege of Salgaron
Shipped by the fast boats of Hu'ut Ke'yhipolsto, the main army of Hu'ut is to be unloaded on a near beach, beach Eykotto'lu'lu in Hu'ut. They will march towards the capital and lay siege to the city. Supported by the blockading Hu'ut Ke'yhipolsto they will wait until the city garrison is starved when they attack. They follow the pink line on the map. Warlord Uubve and Hiappopli'e will lead the battle together.
Rypoli plains
The Salgaron are primarily rich because they have a monopoly on trade with the Galasian nations to the south. To destroy the Salgaron economy (which
is based on trade over the Kotthorn mountains), there will be sent the second largest army of Hu'ut to the Rypoli plains which Salgaron uses as the passing area for their caravans. The army is sent to secure the trade of that area, killing any Salgaron merchant and disabling the Galasian nations' trade during the war. This would make the Salgaron economy crumble. It is marked on the map as a cyan line, and the caravan routes to be secured are on the yellow colored area. The Warlord of this army is Oigon'a'epo'epok.
The Serat attack is expected to charge ahead and attack along the yellow and light olive lines. The goal of them would be to secure Minar, and to aid me with their fleet at the ports of Salgaron.
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Current military doctrine:
(*snip* *snip*)
Current king:
Geopopultopu IV
Geopopultopu Dynasty:
Magio Hu'ut
Havan
Geopopultopu I
Uutvebabionus
Yikkilabososamudo
United Hu'ut
Geopopultopu II
Tei'e'semba
Geopopultopu III
Geopopultopu IV
Current cultural situation
The Dha are becoming fewer and fewer, and are almost gone as an actual religion. The Magio are quite numerous, and Pagan religious traces are fading out quickly.
M/D/P: 83%/6%/11%
Battle plans:
Hu’ut - lord_joakim
Economy: Strong
Military: 60,000 men, 10 ships
Culture: Hu’ut, Strong
Description: A powerful nation, if not a rich one, Hu’ut went through a vicious civil war between the Magio and Dha cults, with the former and the god Hu’atbka finally triumphing. While they are not as mistrustful of their neighbors as the Sesh River Valley is, there is still some resentment between these people and the Salgaron. Trade, even within the nation, is dominated by foreigners.
Spending
- Spend heavily in military. Spears should be produced en masse so that my nation is ready to conscript and train peasants. Also, four new barracks should be founded along the Hu'ut coast to the Kainoan Sea. This should help the path of warfare greatly.
- Spend partly in city building. New houses should be replacing the old ones for my nobles. City walls should be fortified with stone instead of wood in the villages. This should strengthen my defenses and infrastructure.
- Spend very little in fishing industry. The Hu'ut have just recently incorporated fishing in their economical model. Build more fishing boats for the people to buy. This should strengthen my domestic economy slightly.
- Revoke some of the rights of the Dha. They will not be allowed to enter public merchant houses or larger marketplaces. They are allowed to sell property to the king for lesser than normal - it should give me a minor trade economy increase, as I can get some wares cheaper. The Dha are not powerful or numerous enough to revolt, so there would not be a larger stability decrease because of this. Only 6% of the populacy follow the Dha way while 83% follow the Magio way.
Diplomacy
- I have begun cooperating with the Serat (Abaddon).
- I am invading my old enemies, the Salgaron, with support from the Serat (Abaddon).
Other stuff
The invasion of Salgaron is meant to end the ancient blood feud between the two people. The cause of the war was a minor caravan raid by Salgaron bandits in the Senet desert. This led to a row of diplomatic problems, and ended with the declaration of war by Hu'ut against Salgaron.
Strategy and goal of the war is to secure the Salgaron capital, and to make sure the Salgaron does not capture any of my own cities (Especially not Jahip). The tactics are as such:
Skirmish of the Had river
Sending out the powerful navy of Hu'ut (the "Hu'ut Ke'yhipolsto" - Hu'ut Barbed Fishermen), I will reach Salgaron city very fast. Travelling quick by sea, they should be unable to create a powerful navy before it is too late. Warlord Ge'e'lopotu will lead the ships. This will blockade their capital and disable the Salgaron building ships, transporting troops to my capital. Green line is ship route, brown area is where the ships should do the blockade.
Defending Hiuttubupulosolamanos
A priority of this war is to protect my capital from danger. A minor garrison should be placed at the purple area, making invasions on the northern side of the Had river impossible. This garrison is lead by captain Ettiupusalo, and if Salgaron city is captured, he should move his troops towards it.
Siege of Salgaron
Shipped by the fast boats of Hu'ut Ke'yhipolsto, the main army of Hu'ut is to be unloaded on a near beach, beach Eykotto'lu'lu in Hu'ut. They will march towards the capital and lay siege to the city. Supported by the blockading Hu'ut Ke'yhipolsto they will wait until the city garrison is starved when they attack. They follow the pink line on the map. Warlord Uubve and Hiappopli'e will lead the battle together.
Rypoli plains
The Salgaron are primarily rich because they have a monopoly on trade with the Galasian nations to the south. To destroy the Salgaron economy (which
is based on trade over the Kotthorn mountains), there will be sent the second largest army of Hu'ut to the Rypoli plains which Salgaron uses as the passing area for their caravans. The army is sent to secure the trade of that area, killing any Salgaron merchant and disabling the Galasian nations' trade during the war. This would make the Salgaron economy crumble. It is marked on the map as a cyan line, and the caravan routes to be secured are on the yellow colored area. The Warlord of this army is Oigon'a'epo'epok.
The Serat attack is expected to charge ahead and attack along the yellow and light olive lines. The goal of them would be to secure Minar, and to aid me with their fleet at the ports of Salgaron.
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Current military doctrine:
(*snip*
*snip*)Current king:
Geopopultopu IV
Geopopultopu Dynasty:
Magio Hu'ut
Havan
Geopopultopu I
Uutvebabionus
Yikkilabososamudo
United Hu'ut
Geopopultopu II
Tei'e'semba
Geopopultopu III
Geopopultopu IV
Current cultural situation
The Dha are becoming fewer and fewer, and are almost gone as an actual religion. The Magio are quite numerous, and Pagan religious traces are fading out quickly.
M/D/P: 83%/6%/11%
Battle plans:
Abaddon
Deity
sp, its called diplomacy.. you might want to try it.
Also, that was a NPC nation we crushed, one I had created only a turn before.. it had it coming
Also, that was a NPC nation we crushed, one I had created only a turn before.. it had it coming
Angst
Rambling and inconsistent
Actually, my best orders was the ones from good ol' ABNES 2... The golden age of Odenes...
Here is another order set from that time:
Nation Name: Odenes // lord_joakim
Capital : Charybh
Leader : Avil Myrihb
Government Type: Avilsdom
Economy (A/I/T) 10(3/3/4)
Army : 23 Proffessionals, 2 Cavalry
Navy : 0
Infrastructure : Barely Acceptable
Culture : Influential
Religion Jiiahmayism 20%
Advances : Alphabet (DONE) Crop Rotation (DONE)
Wonders : Terrace of Jiiahmaya (DONE)
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Nation details:
Simple name: Odenes
Official name: Odene Empire, Empire of Odenes
Leader title: Avil
Other terms:
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Royal Bloodline:
Gepo*
Riamt*
Jakol*
Ievt Melok (of Iria)*
Utseppe
Uhuva
Utihvt
Sephis
Gepo II
Myrihb
(*=Dead)
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City List:
Charyhb
Iria
Skyli
(*=Razed)
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Wonders:
The Terrace of Jiiahmaya
+1 Trade
[COLOR=”blue”]Jiiahmayism[/color] is founded
Trade Cap is raised by 2
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Simple orders: Research Basic Archery and Basic Tactics for 5 Ep in total (Right? The tech tree isn't up..) to get them both, spend the remaining 5 to create 20 infantry units and 2 mounted horsemen with spears. I haven't developed tactics for the mounted units, so the infantry is technically the most effecient. IF you are going to punish me for having a barely acceptable infrastructure, I will not train the horses but instead spend 1 ep, not to increase infrastructure, but to prevent my nation to collapse from lack of same.
invade and secure defensive position in east Bactriania, invade and destroy infrastructure in western Bactriania to make the nation collapse. Make Bactriania lose 1 Agriculture, 1 Industry and 1 Trade from the loss of land.
[From 250 to 255
Myrihb invested heavily in the art of war. Due to the offends from the Bactrianian merchants, Myrihb wanted to end the harassment of the Odene inhabitants. The Empire of Odenes was yet to see her rise as a true Empire. Myrihb had a simple way of improving his armies; seeing the native Odene hunters using bows, he converted the hunters to be more effecient in the army. Using a bow to shoot enemies from a distance, the Odene army suddently had a tactical superiority against potential enemies, in this situation the vicious Bactrianian hordes.
Avil Myrihb developed a simple military system with the addition of the new weapon – arranging his units in groups, his warlords would have an easier way to command his soldiers. The axe-wearing troopers stood in groups while the ranged units stood a little ahead of them; after having shot their bows, they would reload and do it again. When the enemy came too close, the captain of the group would yell 'taka', which would make his soldiers storm forwards and protect the archers. Simple tactic, but deadly. With that, Avil Myrihb managed to create a very advanced army of the time, and trained new military units to destroy the Bactrianian threat.
The invasion of Bactriana was going to happen. Their barbarian lord wouldn't be allowed to conquer great Odenes. Myrihb decided to take an advantage of their broken infrastructure. He decided that two warlords should lead these attacks: Warlord Mur as the head of 15 whole armies with the new improved bow technique, and Warlord Gebu Ta leading 28 foot armies as well as the 2 mounted elites. (If trained, Mur will have the 2 remaining cavalry units)
First phase of the war would be to secure defensive positions so that the Bactrianians wouldn't be able to make a proper counter attack. Warlord Mur would head his in combat to counter these terrible foes. Securing the line I have drawn on the map, he will drill his forces. As my soldiers have been prepared for war for decades, they are very ready for combat compared to the Bactrianian forces. Drilled and trained, we will soon see them wander in Bactrianian blood.
Through this move, I will gain a defensive hold in Bactriania, and if war will continue, it will be fought in their land, decreasing their economy, as it is their farms and manufacturies which we are destroying. If they manage to break through the lines, their lines will be too exhausted to be able to continue to my border this turn.
The second move will be by Gebu Ta. He will move his ground forces forcefully through the Bactrianian countryside. Please note, this move will not be done to secure land. I will raze and burn roads and villages on the way, ruining the already crumbling Bactrianian infrastructure; with that he will lose several areas in the west of him, marked by the colour. He won't be able to control them. My army will disorganize his country so much that his people will leave the emperor – the regional chiefs will join against him. This will make him lose 1 income from each of his income areas (A/I/T).
Maybe as a side effect, the revolting chiefs will make their own nations from the previously Bactrianian areas... These would be eager to be independent, not supporting the Bactrianian government, maybe support me, maybe support me in fear. There is of course a chance they are making states to continue supporting the Bactrianian government. If chances are they will make their own nations, 1/3 of them will support me friendly, 1/3 of them will support me in fear, and 1/3 of them will support the Bactrianian government. Of course they can be neutral... And they would be very weak ofc, having maximum 2/2/2.
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That's it
Btw regarding my initial intrusion story; I stated archers were incorporated in the Odene army already, didn't I?
You didn't say they weren't Although I accept it. I hope that I can win the war with their huge dissent though. It should be very, very possible.
And sorry for the crappy orders
Here is another order set from that time:
Nation Name: Odenes // lord_joakim
Capital : Charybh
Leader : Avil Myrihb
Government Type: Avilsdom
Economy (A/I/T) 10(3/3/4)
Army : 23 Proffessionals, 2 Cavalry
Navy : 0
Infrastructure : Barely Acceptable
Culture : Influential
Religion Jiiahmayism 20%
Advances : Alphabet (DONE) Crop Rotation (DONE)
Wonders : Terrace of Jiiahmaya (DONE)
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Nation details:
Simple name: Odenes
Official name: Odene Empire, Empire of Odenes
Leader title: Avil
Other terms:
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Royal Bloodline:
Gepo*
Riamt*
Jakol*
Ievt Melok (of Iria)*
Utseppe
Uhuva
Utihvt
Sephis
Gepo II
Myrihb
(*=Dead)
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City List:
Charyhb
Iria
Skyli
(*=Razed)
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Wonders:
The Terrace of Jiiahmaya
+1 Trade
[COLOR=”blue”]Jiiahmayism[/color] is founded
Trade Cap is raised by 2
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Simple orders: Research Basic Archery and Basic Tactics for 5 Ep in total (Right? The tech tree isn't up..) to get them both, spend the remaining 5 to create 20 infantry units and 2 mounted horsemen with spears. I haven't developed tactics for the mounted units, so the infantry is technically the most effecient. IF you are going to punish me for having a barely acceptable infrastructure, I will not train the horses but instead spend 1 ep, not to increase infrastructure, but to prevent my nation to collapse from lack of same.
invade and secure defensive position in east Bactriania, invade and destroy infrastructure in western Bactriania to make the nation collapse. Make Bactriania lose 1 Agriculture, 1 Industry and 1 Trade from the loss of land.[From 250 to 255
Myrihb invested heavily in the art of war. Due to the offends from the Bactrianian merchants, Myrihb wanted to end the harassment of the Odene inhabitants. The Empire of Odenes was yet to see her rise as a true Empire. Myrihb had a simple way of improving his armies; seeing the native Odene hunters using bows, he converted the hunters to be more effecient in the army. Using a bow to shoot enemies from a distance, the Odene army suddently had a tactical superiority against potential enemies, in this situation the vicious Bactrianian hordes.
Avil Myrihb developed a simple military system with the addition of the new weapon – arranging his units in groups, his warlords would have an easier way to command his soldiers. The axe-wearing troopers stood in groups while the ranged units stood a little ahead of them; after having shot their bows, they would reload and do it again. When the enemy came too close, the captain of the group would yell 'taka', which would make his soldiers storm forwards and protect the archers. Simple tactic, but deadly. With that, Avil Myrihb managed to create a very advanced army of the time, and trained new military units to destroy the Bactrianian threat.
The invasion of Bactriana was going to happen. Their barbarian lord wouldn't be allowed to conquer great Odenes. Myrihb decided to take an advantage of their broken infrastructure. He decided that two warlords should lead these attacks: Warlord Mur as the head of 15 whole armies with the new improved bow technique, and Warlord Gebu Ta leading 28 foot armies as well as the 2 mounted elites. (If trained, Mur will have the 2 remaining cavalry units)
First phase of the war would be to secure defensive positions so that the Bactrianians wouldn't be able to make a proper counter attack. Warlord Mur would head his in combat to counter these terrible foes. Securing the line I have drawn on the map, he will drill his forces. As my soldiers have been prepared for war for decades, they are very ready for combat compared to the Bactrianian forces. Drilled and trained, we will soon see them wander in Bactrianian blood.
Through this move, I will gain a defensive hold in Bactriania, and if war will continue, it will be fought in their land, decreasing their economy, as it is their farms and manufacturies which we are destroying. If they manage to break through the lines, their lines will be too exhausted to be able to continue to my border this turn.
The second move will be by Gebu Ta. He will move his ground forces forcefully through the Bactrianian countryside. Please note, this move will not be done to secure land. I will raze and burn roads and villages on the way, ruining the already crumbling Bactrianian infrastructure; with that he will lose several areas in the west of him, marked by the colour. He won't be able to control them. My army will disorganize his country so much that his people will leave the emperor – the regional chiefs will join against him. This will make him lose 1 income from each of his income areas (A/I/T).
Maybe as a side effect, the revolting chiefs will make their own nations from the previously Bactrianian areas... These would be eager to be independent, not supporting the Bactrianian government, maybe support me, maybe support me in fear. There is of course a chance they are making states to continue supporting the Bactrianian government. If chances are they will make their own nations, 1/3 of them will support me friendly, 1/3 of them will support me in fear, and 1/3 of them will support the Bactrianian government. Of course they can be neutral... And they would be very weak ofc, having maximum 2/2/2.
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That's it
Btw regarding my initial intrusion story; I stated archers were incorporated in the Odene army already, didn't I?
You didn't say they weren't Although I accept it. I hope that I can win the war with their huge dissent though. It should be very, very possible. And sorry for the crappy orders
Angst
Rambling and inconsistent
Another ABNES
I'm lacking map this time
Nation Name: Odenes // lord_joakim
Capital : Charybh
Leader : Gepo
Government Type: Avilsdom
Economy (A/I/T) 8(4/2/2)
Trade Partners: (6) Bac-Pan-Gup-Ban-Ski-Ubu
Army : 23 Professionals
Navy : 0
Infrastructure : Barely Acceptable
Population : 3
Size: 2
Confidence : Tolerating
Culture : Cultured
Religion none
Advances : Alphabet (1/6)
Wonders : Terrace of Jiiahmaya (3/?)
Bonuses this turn: 10 Economy
(Although, shouldn't the bonus be different for each civ??? Stronger civ gets higher bonus, that is?)
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Royal Bloodline:
Gepo*
Riamt*
Jakol*
Ievt Melok (of Iria)*
Utseppe
Uhuva
Utihvt
Sephis
Gepo II
Myrihb
(*=Dead)
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City List:
Charyhb
Iria
Skyli
(*=Razed)
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~.:|'*-.,.-*'|:.~
Total Economy to spend: 21
Goals:
Avil Utseppe: Avil Utseppe will make the nation's army garrison at the red marked areas, protecting the Empire against potential Bactrian aggression. He will also finish the Terrace of Jiiahmaya. (-4 Eco)
Avil Uhuve: He will institute a minor industrial investement in the nation, but will die of illness before he can finish it. (-2 Eco, ++ Industry)
Avil Utihvt: He will finish the industrial investements and spend several money on researching Crop Rotation – Irrigation having helped the agriculture severely already, the nation still lacks the advanced technique of the Panchala. He will also attemp to increase goods trade at the Terrace of Jiiahmaya, making the civilization more productive. (-4 Eco, +Crop Rotation as a Tech {Agriculture Cap=>5}, +Industry)
Avil Sephis: He will finish the research of the Alphabet and also spread the faith of Jiiahmayism to the cities with the new ability of writing. (-4 Eco, +Alphabet as a Tech {Culture Cap=>Influential}, more Jiiahmayism in Odenes)
Avil Gepo II: I will institute more taxes on all trade, which Bactrian merchants will be quite unpleasant about especially. He never manages to do anything else, as he dies on the throne of an unknown reason (Although it should be elderly, he was pretty old). The common belief says that it was a Bactrian merchant who called for an assassination. (Excuse for attacking the Bactrian Empire. Also -6 Eco points, ++++++ Trade)
Avil Myrihb: He will prepare an invasion against the Bactrian emperor – see details. He will raise 2 Cavalry elites for the Odene Empire to use. (-1 Eco)
IF the Bactrians manage to attack first of some reason, Utseppe's defensive tactics should help very much against a possible invasion. Please also note that my army, consisting of medium-heavy spearmen and light archers – has a probably better chance against cavalry foes. I've drawn a tactical map of my army organization after the invention of Tactics – please note it will be VERY strong in this age - and you'll get it sometimes between this and the next update.
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[From 130 to 136
The Temple of Jiiahmaya was completed under the eyes of Avil Utseppe in 130 AR. His enourmous investement in the construction was especially triggered by the huge focus on the practices of Jiiahmaya in the period - the polytheistic priests of Odenes had finally decided that Jiiahmaya was the head god of all, and that all should pray for him. The creation of The Temple of Jiiahmaya triggered a huge practice of the faith in Charyhb, founding the Jiiahmayism religion (Which will be described in more detail in the thread when I get the story done).
In the last years of Avil Utseppe's life, he looked west. Preparing for the next step in the history of the world, the humongous foot army of the Empire of Odenes was prepared - the organized spearmen and the lightly-armored, yet schooled archers were ready for battle. His tactics were simple - the true strength of the dangerous Bactrian hordes was their immense cavalry armies.
The spears the Odene people had would not bend in the face of the horseback rider - Utseppe's best generals had improved the Odene spearwall fortress significantly, and the formationed spears allowed no enemies to pass through the barbed wire-like spearwall. The main idea was to make small triangles of soldiers, where each soldier should be a part of the fortress - none should be able to pass through. Each small triangle of men should form the wall of spears, which would protect the archers behind the soldiers. The ancient defensive assault technique of the skilled Odene people should be effecient in the upcoming conflict, and all soldier should be legendary.
(I have a pic on my father's pc, but I am not able to get the pic. But you'll get a pic of the tactics later, and you'll see the brilliance - the Odene has been struggling between each other in decades - their defensive tactics are the fruits of the civil wars and the unrest).
But a month before the invasion happened, the king died in his sleep. Due to elderly, the Avil court chose his oldest son, Uhuve, to rule after him. The invasion didn't happen. The army, however, remained drilled a safe way from the Bactrian border, holding defensive lines around Iria and Skylli.
[From 136 to 147
Uhuve was very sick. He was born with a disease, which made him have very severe problems with moving. His decisions was, however, very well-done in the course of his reign. He chose to institute more work in the ancient Odene mining facilities, finishing his father's project, and found several more tin sites to mine. He died from his immobility before the reforms had a complete effect for the Odene Empire though.
[From 147 to 173
When Uhuve died, Utihvt, his brother, was chosen as the next Avil. His actual only major archievement was paying incredible amounts of money bribing Panchalan traders for the secrets of Crop Rotation. Ending up finally finding a very rich merchant, he managed to make him gather information from the Panchalan fields - and with that he managed to research the technology. But his family didn't appreciate his work too much - if the Panchala ever found out, the Avility of Odenes would be appreciated much lesser by the Panchalan king.
He also made goods more tradeable in the markets, increasing demand for metal. Of course, this would better the industry in the nation.
[From 173 to 201
Sephis was a faithful man. His devotion for the Jiiahmayist beliefs and traditions was very widely known. The common townsfolk said his faith actually made him disperse of the royal Uini (Although this clearly was a common lie - he did use the Uini a lot, although very untraditionally. You get my point).
With the completion of the development of a primitive Odene national alphabet, the priests of Jiiahmaya had a tool to make writings on rocks. They did, on the Avil's orders, primitive grafitti: They painted words in the letters unknown to the common people. The king ordered the words spread out so the educated elite should learn the alphabet to read the signs, and the Jiiahmaya priests did this in the whole of Odenes.
(Please Cultural bonus for this, the idea is too awesome to be ignored)
[From 201 to 221
Gepo II died of unknown causes. His rule was effecient, but very unstable - He did, see the bright possibilities of the Terrace of Jiiahmaya. Merchants gathered and created a market on the copper street, and he decided to do some funding in the area. He improved the possibilities for Panchalan merchants to get Bactrian wares, and excluded Bactrian merchants from the market place slightly, raising their taxes a bit when trading in Charyhb. This made life much much easier for Odene traders to sell wares for higher prices to the Bactrian nations.
This severely improved trade in the Odene nation. But the difficulties with the Bactrian merchants became very problematic, as they were very unhappy with the reforms. It lead to direct harassment and fights between Bactrian and Panchalan-Odene merchants, as the competition rose to the extreme - Odenes became richer and richer with Panchala, and the Skiv got a head start in the markets, on the cost of the Batrian traders.
The problems settled somehow with a weird death of Avil Gepo II - he died on the throne in the midst of a speech. The common people as well as the Avility believed that he was assassined by a anonymous Bactrian merchant using a yet unknown poison. This caused a major trust problem with the barbarian empire the north-west. (I get a cause for war. You know you want it.)
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lol, it was too big for one PM Brilliant Now I'm nr 2 to crack that 1 pm limit
[From 221 to 250
After the death of Gepo II, his only son, Myrihb, took over the throne. Myrihb, being a little hulky for a king, had an internal hate against Bactrian merchants. He prepared the long-forgotten invasion against Bactria, originally initiated by Avil Utseppe in the legends. His great-great-great-grandfather had long ago made the army stations the northwest of the nation, and the barracks were filled to the edge with schooled soldiers.
He knew, though, that Bactria had a cavalry unit yet to be seen in the ancient world. He trained a small cavalry elite, but still let the Odene army rely on the powerful foot armies.
(On a side note - my cavalry sucks. My army is designed for defensive formations, and the Odene people have never used horses before. This means: I hereby sacrifice effecient horses in return for extremely powerful spearwall formations and archery. The spearmen are lightly armored due to the era, which makes them fast - the archers are schooled at short-distance shots. The army is trained to be hard to make tired. So they move slowly, fortified as they walk, and they are deadly.
Spears surround archers. It works - ask my Medieval 2 games
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This is the final wonder form:
The Terrace of Jiiahmaya
+1 Trade
[COLOR=”blue”]Jiiahmayism[/Color] is founded
Trade Cap is raised by 2
I used 1 lesser Economy on Crop Rotation to make an attemp - You do the odds - I 'steal' the remaining point from the Panchala by not paying it and stealing their technology. But as you might know, if they find out, you just post it in the update and make them hate me >.<
~.:|'*-.,.-*'|:.~
[COLOR=”red”]7 Cost[/Color]
Also, can I have my maximal everything written in the stats? I think my caps are these:
Economy (A/I/T) 8(4/2/2) Cap: 4/3/3 Yes, it should be like that... I know it's my mistake, but please don't let me lose 3 EP
Infrastructure : Barely Acceptable/ Barely Acceptable
Population : 3/4
Size: 2/4
Confidence : Tolerating/Tolerating
Culture : Cultured/Cultured
Religion none/20%
I'm lacking map this time
Nation Name: Odenes // lord_joakim
Capital : Charybh
Leader : Gepo
Government Type: Avilsdom
Economy (A/I/T) 8(4/2/2)
Trade Partners: (6) Bac-Pan-Gup-Ban-Ski-Ubu
Army : 23 Professionals
Navy : 0
Infrastructure : Barely Acceptable
Population : 3
Size: 2
Confidence : Tolerating
Culture : Cultured
Religion none
Advances : Alphabet (1/6)
Wonders : Terrace of Jiiahmaya (3/?)
Bonuses this turn: 10 Economy
(Although, shouldn't the bonus be different for each civ??? Stronger civ gets higher bonus, that is?)
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Royal Bloodline:
Gepo*
Riamt*
Jakol*
Ievt Melok (of Iria)*
Utseppe
Uhuva
Utihvt
Sephis
Gepo II
Myrihb
(*=Dead)
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City List:
Charyhb
Iria
Skyli
(*=Razed)
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Total Economy to spend: 21
Goals:
Avil Utseppe: Avil Utseppe will make the nation's army garrison at the red marked areas, protecting the Empire against potential Bactrian aggression. He will also finish the Terrace of Jiiahmaya. (-4 Eco)
Avil Uhuve: He will institute a minor industrial investement in the nation, but will die of illness before he can finish it. (-2 Eco, ++ Industry)
Avil Utihvt: He will finish the industrial investements and spend several money on researching Crop Rotation – Irrigation having helped the agriculture severely already, the nation still lacks the advanced technique of the Panchala. He will also attemp to increase goods trade at the Terrace of Jiiahmaya, making the civilization more productive. (-4 Eco, +Crop Rotation as a Tech {Agriculture Cap=>5}, +Industry)
Avil Sephis: He will finish the research of the Alphabet and also spread the faith of Jiiahmayism to the cities with the new ability of writing. (-4 Eco, +Alphabet as a Tech {Culture Cap=>Influential}, more Jiiahmayism in Odenes)
Avil Gepo II: I will institute more taxes on all trade, which Bactrian merchants will be quite unpleasant about especially. He never manages to do anything else, as he dies on the throne of an unknown reason (Although it should be elderly, he was pretty old). The common belief says that it was a Bactrian merchant who called for an assassination. (Excuse for attacking the Bactrian Empire. Also -6 Eco points, ++++++ Trade)
Avil Myrihb: He will prepare an invasion against the Bactrian emperor – see details. He will raise 2 Cavalry elites for the Odene Empire to use. (-1 Eco)
IF the Bactrians manage to attack first of some reason, Utseppe's defensive tactics should help very much against a possible invasion. Please also note that my army, consisting of medium-heavy spearmen and light archers – has a probably better chance against cavalry foes. I've drawn a tactical map of my army organization after the invention of Tactics – please note it will be VERY strong in this age - and you'll get it sometimes between this and the next update.
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[From 130 to 136
The Temple of Jiiahmaya was completed under the eyes of Avil Utseppe in 130 AR. His enourmous investement in the construction was especially triggered by the huge focus on the practices of Jiiahmaya in the period - the polytheistic priests of Odenes had finally decided that Jiiahmaya was the head god of all, and that all should pray for him. The creation of The Temple of Jiiahmaya triggered a huge practice of the faith in Charyhb, founding the Jiiahmayism religion (Which will be described in more detail in the thread when I get the story done).
In the last years of Avil Utseppe's life, he looked west. Preparing for the next step in the history of the world, the humongous foot army of the Empire of Odenes was prepared - the organized spearmen and the lightly-armored, yet schooled archers were ready for battle. His tactics were simple - the true strength of the dangerous Bactrian hordes was their immense cavalry armies.
The spears the Odene people had would not bend in the face of the horseback rider - Utseppe's best generals had improved the Odene spearwall fortress significantly, and the formationed spears allowed no enemies to pass through the barbed wire-like spearwall. The main idea was to make small triangles of soldiers, where each soldier should be a part of the fortress - none should be able to pass through. Each small triangle of men should form the wall of spears, which would protect the archers behind the soldiers. The ancient defensive assault technique of the skilled Odene people should be effecient in the upcoming conflict, and all soldier should be legendary.
(I have a pic on my father's pc, but I am not able to get the pic. But you'll get a pic of the tactics later, and you'll see the brilliance - the Odene has been struggling between each other in decades - their defensive tactics are the fruits of the civil wars and the unrest).
But a month before the invasion happened, the king died in his sleep. Due to elderly, the Avil court chose his oldest son, Uhuve, to rule after him. The invasion didn't happen. The army, however, remained drilled a safe way from the Bactrian border, holding defensive lines around Iria and Skylli.
[From 136 to 147
Uhuve was very sick. He was born with a disease, which made him have very severe problems with moving. His decisions was, however, very well-done in the course of his reign. He chose to institute more work in the ancient Odene mining facilities, finishing his father's project, and found several more tin sites to mine. He died from his immobility before the reforms had a complete effect for the Odene Empire though.
[From 147 to 173
When Uhuve died, Utihvt, his brother, was chosen as the next Avil. His actual only major archievement was paying incredible amounts of money bribing Panchalan traders for the secrets of Crop Rotation. Ending up finally finding a very rich merchant, he managed to make him gather information from the Panchalan fields - and with that he managed to research the technology. But his family didn't appreciate his work too much - if the Panchala ever found out, the Avility of Odenes would be appreciated much lesser by the Panchalan king.
He also made goods more tradeable in the markets, increasing demand for metal. Of course, this would better the industry in the nation.
[From 173 to 201
Sephis was a faithful man. His devotion for the Jiiahmayist beliefs and traditions was very widely known. The common townsfolk said his faith actually made him disperse of the royal Uini (Although this clearly was a common lie - he did use the Uini a lot, although very untraditionally. You get my point).
With the completion of the development of a primitive Odene national alphabet, the priests of Jiiahmaya had a tool to make writings on rocks. They did, on the Avil's orders, primitive grafitti: They painted words in the letters unknown to the common people. The king ordered the words spread out so the educated elite should learn the alphabet to read the signs, and the Jiiahmaya priests did this in the whole of Odenes.
(Please Cultural bonus for this, the idea is too awesome to be ignored
)[From 201 to 221
Gepo II died of unknown causes. His rule was effecient, but very unstable - He did, see the bright possibilities of the Terrace of Jiiahmaya. Merchants gathered and created a market on the copper street, and he decided to do some funding in the area. He improved the possibilities for Panchalan merchants to get Bactrian wares, and excluded Bactrian merchants from the market place slightly, raising their taxes a bit when trading in Charyhb. This made life much much easier for Odene traders to sell wares for higher prices to the Bactrian nations.
This severely improved trade in the Odene nation. But the difficulties with the Bactrian merchants became very problematic, as they were very unhappy with the reforms. It lead to direct harassment and fights between Bactrian and Panchalan-Odene merchants, as the competition rose to the extreme - Odenes became richer and richer with Panchala, and the Skiv got a head start in the markets, on the cost of the Batrian traders.
The problems settled somehow with a weird death of Avil Gepo II - he died on the throne in the midst of a speech. The common people as well as the Avility believed that he was assassined by a anonymous Bactrian merchant using a yet unknown poison. This caused a major trust problem with the barbarian empire the north-west. (I get a cause for war. You know you want it.
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lol, it was too big for one PM
Brilliant Now I'm nr 2 to crack that 1 pm limit [From 221 to 250
After the death of Gepo II, his only son, Myrihb, took over the throne. Myrihb, being a little hulky for a king, had an internal hate against Bactrian merchants. He prepared the long-forgotten invasion against Bactria, originally initiated by Avil Utseppe in the legends. His great-great-great-grandfather had long ago made the army stations the northwest of the nation, and the barracks were filled to the edge with schooled soldiers.
He knew, though, that Bactria had a cavalry unit yet to be seen in the ancient world. He trained a small cavalry elite, but still let the Odene army rely on the powerful foot armies.
(On a side note - my cavalry sucks. My army is designed for defensive formations, and the Odene people have never used horses before. This means: I hereby sacrifice effecient horses in return for extremely powerful spearwall formations and archery. The spearmen are lightly armored due to the era, which makes them fast - the archers are schooled at short-distance shots. The army is trained to be hard to make tired. So they move slowly, fortified as they walk, and they are deadly.
Spears surround archers. It works - ask my Medieval 2 games
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~.:|'*-.,.-*'|:.~
This is the final wonder form:
The Terrace of Jiiahmaya
+1 Trade
[COLOR=”blue”]Jiiahmayism[/Color] is founded
Trade Cap is raised by 2
I used 1 lesser Economy on Crop Rotation to make an attemp - You do the odds - I 'steal' the remaining point from the Panchala by not paying it and stealing their technology. But as you might know, if they find out, you just post it in the update and make them hate me >.<
~.:|'*-.,.-*'|:.~
[COLOR=”red”]7 Cost[/Color]
Also, can I have my maximal everything written in the stats? I think my caps are these:
Economy (A/I/T) 8(4/2/2) Cap: 4/3/3 Yes, it should be like that... I know it's my mistake, but please don't let me lose 3 EP
Infrastructure : Barely Acceptable/ Barely Acceptable
Population : 3/4
Size: 2/4
Confidence : Tolerating/Tolerating
Culture : Cultured/Cultured
Religion none/20%
Abaddon
Deity
Indeed, exceptional orders
Angst
Rambling and inconsistent
The time it took to make those things was killing me.
flyingchicken
Deity
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Stats
Greece: flyinchicken
Constitutional Monarchy: French Faction PM (Conservative)
Capital: Athens
Dissent: 28%
Base IC: 4
Military Spending: 3
Public Spending: 0
Private Enterprise: 1
Army: 2 Militia Divisions, 4 Infantry Divisions, 2 Cavalry Divisions
Army Quality: 3
Navy: 2 Frigates
Navy Quality: 2
Spending
Shift to:
- Military Spending: 1
- Public Spending: 1
- Private Spending: 2
Spend:
- 1 Military Spending IC on 1 Militia Division
- 1 Public Spending IC on building/repairing infrastructure in liberated territory
- 2 Private Spending IC on Advanced Rifling (with blueprints, total of 4 now)
- Any extra Private IC (just in case) into extra private-initiative infrastructure development
Domestic
- Play on "cowardly slave-of-Muslims Serbs defended their corpulent masters" and "at least we have liberated some more of our Greek brothers, more will come in the future!" on the war's conclusion.
- Open the gates of internal immigration in the country.
Foreign
Military
- (5 free divisions) plus (1 Military Spending IC × 5) gives me a 10 division cap, right? If so, I'm still in the safe zone.
Greece: flyinchicken
Constitutional Monarchy: French Faction PM (Conservative)
Capital: Athens
Dissent: 28%
Base IC: 4
Military Spending: 3
Public Spending: 0
Private Enterprise: 1
Army: 2 Militia Divisions, 4 Infantry Divisions, 2 Cavalry Divisions
Army Quality: 3
Navy: 2 Frigates
Navy Quality: 2
Spending
Shift to:
- Military Spending: 1
- Public Spending: 1
- Private Spending: 2
Spend:
- 1 Military Spending IC on 1 Militia Division
- 1 Public Spending IC on building/repairing infrastructure in liberated territory
- 2 Private Spending IC on Advanced Rifling (with blueprints, total of 4 now)
- Any extra Private IC (just in case) into extra private-initiative infrastructure development
Domestic
- Play on "cowardly slave-of-Muslims Serbs defended their corpulent masters" and "at least we have liberated some more of our Greek brothers, more will come in the future!" on the war's conclusion.
- Open the gates of internal immigration in the country.
Foreign
Military
- (5 free divisions) plus (1 Military Spending IC × 5) gives me a 10 division cap, right? If so, I'm still in the safe zone.
Here are Urkesh orders from JalNES II, update 1.
Urkesh/Dachspmg
Urkesh
Government: Monarchy
Economy: 1, medium increasing trade (tin, pottery, textiles), little agriculture/husbandry
Economy: Small untrained spearmen and archers, large trained chariots
Culture: Hurrian pantheon: chief god Kumarbi, good and evil spirits.
Description: Most civilized representative of the Hurrian tribes.
Spending Orders
-I guess I only get one of these. Put it into the military, with perhaps the more specific aim of further improvement of the chariot arm.
Diplomatic Orders (such as they are)
cir. 2000-1980 BC
-Mostly, we just want to contact other Hurrian groups in the southern Caucasus and around our general area and convince them to ally with us for plunder and general mayhem creation in the Fertile Crescent. If necessary, detach part of that economical spending point for use in bribing recalcitrant chieftains with gifts.
-If the carrot doesn't really work, naturally we'll stick 'em with our chariots.
-Any arrangements should be of confederation level or possibly even less concrete. We want them to join up quickly, and then later...well, that comes later.
Military Orders
Outline
-Kay, so what I want to do here is create a confederatory empire comprised primarily of nomadic groups (i.e. the Hurrians) and given some additional muscle and direction by Urkesh. We'd like to raise mayhem and hell and general all-around madness in the northern Fertile Crescent for a few decades, maybe even sack some important cities, and then upon the death of a strong leader the whole thing can fall apart with a series of Hurrian-derived successor states scattered across Assyria and Syria.
cir. 2000-1980 BC
-As previously noted, we want to unite the Hurrian "barbarians" to some loose extent, and that may mean military coercion or conquest. Integrate new members of our coalition by having them assist in the unification process.
cir. 1980-1965 BC
-This initial phase of conquest will be aimed largely at either annihilating or seriously weakening our neighbors New Kadria. Strategy here is pretty simple; they'll probably be expanding too, so hit a few of their new colony territories in raids to draw their main army out. At this juncture, we march (or ride) separately and fight together; we can raid a larger area by dispersing our raiders, but when they finally send out a field force or if we are forced to engage a major militia unit, then we can rapidly concentrate our forces due to our high mobility (being a chariot army and all that). Once their main field army is out trying to fight us, hit it on flat ground where our larger chariot arm predominates. Alternatively, we could engage them by bits and pieces (if they're dumb enough to do that, just sending out relatively minor military forces) and in that case we concentrate against each unit in turn with our main force.
-After destroying the New Kadrian army at a stroke, we need to follow it up by immediately attacking the (relatively) unguarded New Kadria itself and sacking it. Don't really concentrate on wiping out every last vestige of the Kadrian kingdom, but instead simply wipe out what's easiest, plunder everything you can, and then leave as fast as we got there. If they reestablish their government, fine: it won't be a major threat for a long while, by which time we'll have done everything we came for.
-However, we want to start settling Hurrians all across Assyria as part of a quasi-feudal system, similar to what the Arabs did in the 7th century OTL. We're not attempting to recreate a mini-Mongol empire; we're trying to cause massive mayhem and spread Hurrian culture over a wide area.
cir. 1965-1945 BC
-At this point, we begin to arrive at the edge of civilized Mesopotamia. This will naturally be a tougher nut to crack, and it would be very easy to get bogged down in sieges and relatively useless actions. During most of this period, we'll be occupied with pinprick raids for the most part, save for every few years or so when we launch a more major attack on a major city-state like Akkad. The focus here is, again, on plunder to keep the coalition of Hurrians together, as well as generating a lot of centrifugal force within a lot of these nascent societies, spinning off any gains they try to get and generally retarding their development. Sacking Akkad itself would be good for that purpose, but unless our arts of siegecraft have massively improved (unlikely) or we can get a traitor to let us in (slightly more likely), we'd have to rely on the same strategy we used against the Kadrians, and that would take a long time. Best to keep things fluid.
-At the same time as we're raiding Mesopotamia, we want to begin to attack Phoenicia as well, first seizing Carchemish as a base. The Tyrians and Tyrions oughtn't have too much of a land army with which to launch expansion outside of their own little home areas, so it oughtn't be terribly difficult to plunder the surrounding areas. Any attacks on Tyre would probably be repulsed, so preventing them from significantly expanding outside the city would probably do fine.
-While raiding Mesopotamia and Phoenicia, we want to be sure to continue settling Hurrians all over the place for a limited measure of security as well as to continue to help keep the coalition together. At the same time, it is likely that we'll need to bring in outside tribes to replenish numerical losses, and periodical campaigns into less civilized zones, such as Anatolia or Western Iran (or the Caucasus) should be undertaken to gather more allies for further conquests down south.
-A concurrent political development ought to be taking place within Urkesh and the larger Hurrian confederation. The Urkesh monarchs will be getting an awful lot of gold and other valuables into their hands, and this new distribution of wealth will make them even more preeminent than before. During this later period of attacks on Mesopotamia and Phoenicia, we should see the culmination of this process in a "big man" king equivalent to Gilgamesh or Aga (or Attila). His name will be "Te'irru" and he'll start leading larger and larger raids, extracting even more plunder from the local cities around the fringes of the Phoenician and Akkadian empires.
cir. 1945-1930 BC
-This will be a crisis time. Te'irru is supposed to become the terror of the Fertile Crescent, rampaging across it not unlike Attila and wiping out all he comes near, leading a series of major raids and invasions that nobody can stop. He needs to go down, though, and as soon as he does the entire edifice of the Hurrian confederate empire will go with him. As soon as the Hurrians start losing, they will stop getting plunder, which undermines the basic authority of the kings of Urkesh who stepped in to lead them. So wherever Te'irru is stymied (make it something cool please, like the walls of Memphis) will be the high-tide mark of the Hurrian empire.
-As soon as Te'irru's body is cold, the members of the Hurrian confederacy are going to want to take what's left of their plunder and either go carve out their own miniature kingdoms or launch their own raids. Either way, the Urkesh-led empire will rapidly be ripped apart through centrifugal force, with confederacy members establishing miniature Hurrian successor states all throughout the northern Fertile Crescent. Naturally, they'll all try to tear each other to shreds too, but judging by the examples of Alexander and Attila an equitable balance will eventually come up, and it'll happen around 1930 BC.
cir. 1930-1900 BC
-The remainder of the period will see further consolidation and amalgamation by the Hurrian successor states; some will undoubtedly be attacked and perhaps wiped out by the other resurgent civilizations, or by their fellow Hurrians. After all, Te'irru's empire's collapse will have left a major power vacuum that needs to be filled. So likely as not the Hurrians will lose ground both militarily and culturally, especially in more densely populated Mesopotamia and Phoenicia; however, the heartland of the empire, in Assyria and Syria, ought to remain ethnically Hurrian to a large degree. Likely cities around which successor kingdoms could generate are: Carchemish, Alalakh, Emar (the site of New Kadria; perhaps a syncretic Hurrian-Kadrian empire will arise there), Urkesh itself (the old capital lending perhaps a shred of legitimacy to any would-be world-conqueror from there), and Shekhna.
Religious Orders
-This is more of a footnote than anything else, but it's likely that the Mesopotamian and perhaps Kadrian pantheia will be assimilated by the Hurrians. In that case, after the death of Te'irru, Teshub, the sky-god, will become head of the pantheon to symbolize the end of Urkesh's importance; other members include Hebat, the sun-goddess and his wife, as well as their son Sharruma; from Mesopotamia we will probably incorporate Nergal, god of the underworld, and Ea, a water deity; from Kadria we can pull the Kadrian/Unicus "minor gods", like Benrid and Mantirix.
OOC:
-Satisfactory? I'd like to make things interesting for my fellow neighbors, and maybe take over a Hurrian successor state later, or move to India, next turn.
Dachspmg
Urkesh/Dachspmg
Urkesh
Government: Monarchy
Economy: 1, medium increasing trade (tin, pottery, textiles), little agriculture/husbandry
Economy: Small untrained spearmen and archers, large trained chariots
Culture: Hurrian pantheon: chief god Kumarbi, good and evil spirits.
Description: Most civilized representative of the Hurrian tribes.
Spending Orders
-I guess I only get one of these.
Put it into the military, with perhaps the more specific aim of further improvement of the chariot arm.Diplomatic Orders (such as they are)
cir. 2000-1980 BC
-Mostly, we just want to contact other Hurrian groups in the southern Caucasus and around our general area and convince them to ally with us for plunder and general mayhem creation in the Fertile Crescent. If necessary, detach part of that economical spending point for use in bribing recalcitrant chieftains with gifts.
-If the carrot doesn't really work, naturally we'll stick 'em with our chariots.
-Any arrangements should be of confederation level or possibly even less concrete. We want them to join up quickly, and then later...well, that comes later.
Military Orders
Outline
-Kay, so what I want to do here is create a confederatory empire comprised primarily of nomadic groups (i.e. the Hurrians) and given some additional muscle and direction by Urkesh. We'd like to raise mayhem and hell and general all-around madness in the northern Fertile Crescent for a few decades, maybe even sack some important cities, and then upon the death of a strong leader the whole thing can fall apart with a series of Hurrian-derived successor states scattered across Assyria and Syria.
cir. 2000-1980 BC
-As previously noted, we want to unite the Hurrian "barbarians" to some loose extent, and that may mean military coercion or conquest. Integrate new members of our coalition by having them assist in the unification process.
cir. 1980-1965 BC
-This initial phase of conquest will be aimed largely at either annihilating or seriously weakening our neighbors New Kadria. Strategy here is pretty simple; they'll probably be expanding too, so hit a few of their new colony territories in raids to draw their main army out. At this juncture, we march (or ride) separately and fight together; we can raid a larger area by dispersing our raiders, but when they finally send out a field force or if we are forced to engage a major militia unit, then we can rapidly concentrate our forces due to our high mobility (being a chariot army and all that). Once their main field army is out trying to fight us, hit it on flat ground where our larger chariot arm predominates. Alternatively, we could engage them by bits and pieces (if they're dumb enough to do that, just sending out relatively minor military forces) and in that case we concentrate against each unit in turn with our main force.
-After destroying the New Kadrian army at a stroke, we need to follow it up by immediately attacking the (relatively) unguarded New Kadria itself and sacking it. Don't really concentrate on wiping out every last vestige of the Kadrian kingdom, but instead simply wipe out what's easiest, plunder everything you can, and then leave as fast as we got there. If they reestablish their government, fine: it won't be a major threat for a long while, by which time we'll have done everything we came for.
-However, we want to start settling Hurrians all across Assyria as part of a quasi-feudal system, similar to what the Arabs did in the 7th century OTL. We're not attempting to recreate a mini-Mongol empire; we're trying to cause massive mayhem and spread Hurrian culture over a wide area.
cir. 1965-1945 BC
-At this point, we begin to arrive at the edge of civilized Mesopotamia. This will naturally be a tougher nut to crack, and it would be very easy to get bogged down in sieges and relatively useless actions. During most of this period, we'll be occupied with pinprick raids for the most part, save for every few years or so when we launch a more major attack on a major city-state like Akkad. The focus here is, again, on plunder to keep the coalition of Hurrians together, as well as generating a lot of centrifugal force within a lot of these nascent societies, spinning off any gains they try to get and generally retarding their development. Sacking Akkad itself would be good for that purpose, but unless our arts of siegecraft have massively improved (unlikely) or we can get a traitor to let us in (slightly more likely), we'd have to rely on the same strategy we used against the Kadrians, and that would take a long time. Best to keep things fluid.
-At the same time as we're raiding Mesopotamia, we want to begin to attack Phoenicia as well, first seizing Carchemish as a base. The Tyrians and Tyrions oughtn't have too much of a land army with which to launch expansion outside of their own little home areas, so it oughtn't be terribly difficult to plunder the surrounding areas. Any attacks on Tyre would probably be repulsed, so preventing them from significantly expanding outside the city would probably do fine.
-While raiding Mesopotamia and Phoenicia, we want to be sure to continue settling Hurrians all over the place for a limited measure of security as well as to continue to help keep the coalition together. At the same time, it is likely that we'll need to bring in outside tribes to replenish numerical losses, and periodical campaigns into less civilized zones, such as Anatolia or Western Iran (or the Caucasus) should be undertaken to gather more allies for further conquests down south.
-A concurrent political development ought to be taking place within Urkesh and the larger Hurrian confederation. The Urkesh monarchs will be getting an awful lot of gold and other valuables into their hands, and this new distribution of wealth will make them even more preeminent than before. During this later period of attacks on Mesopotamia and Phoenicia, we should see the culmination of this process in a "big man" king equivalent to Gilgamesh or Aga (or Attila
). His name will be "Te'irru" and he'll start leading larger and larger raids, extracting even more plunder from the local cities around the fringes of the Phoenician and Akkadian empires.cir. 1945-1930 BC
-This will be a crisis time. Te'irru is supposed to become the terror of the Fertile Crescent, rampaging across it not unlike Attila and wiping out all he comes near, leading a series of major raids and invasions that nobody can stop. He needs to go down, though, and as soon as he does the entire edifice of the Hurrian confederate empire will go with him. As soon as the Hurrians start losing, they will stop getting plunder, which undermines the basic authority of the kings of Urkesh who stepped in to lead them. So wherever Te'irru is stymied (make it something cool please, like the walls of Memphis) will be the high-tide mark of the Hurrian empire.
-As soon as Te'irru's body is cold, the members of the Hurrian confederacy are going to want to take what's left of their plunder and either go carve out their own miniature kingdoms or launch their own raids. Either way, the Urkesh-led empire will rapidly be ripped apart through centrifugal force, with confederacy members establishing miniature Hurrian successor states all throughout the northern Fertile Crescent. Naturally, they'll all try to tear each other to shreds too, but judging by the examples of Alexander and Attila an equitable balance will eventually come up, and it'll happen around 1930 BC.
cir. 1930-1900 BC
-The remainder of the period will see further consolidation and amalgamation by the Hurrian successor states; some will undoubtedly be attacked and perhaps wiped out by the other resurgent civilizations, or by their fellow Hurrians. After all, Te'irru's empire's collapse will have left a major power vacuum that needs to be filled. So likely as not the Hurrians will lose ground both militarily and culturally, especially in more densely populated Mesopotamia and Phoenicia; however, the heartland of the empire, in Assyria and Syria, ought to remain ethnically Hurrian to a large degree. Likely cities around which successor kingdoms could generate are: Carchemish, Alalakh, Emar (the site of New Kadria; perhaps a syncretic Hurrian-Kadrian empire will arise there), Urkesh itself (the old capital lending perhaps a shred of legitimacy to any would-be world-conqueror from there), and Shekhna.
Religious Orders
-This is more of a footnote than anything else, but it's likely that the Mesopotamian and perhaps Kadrian pantheia will be assimilated by the Hurrians. In that case, after the death of Te'irru, Teshub, the sky-god, will become head of the pantheon to symbolize the end of Urkesh's importance; other members include Hebat, the sun-goddess and his wife, as well as their son Sharruma; from Mesopotamia we will probably incorporate Nergal, god of the underworld, and Ea, a water deity; from Kadria we can pull the Kadrian/Unicus "minor gods", like Benrid and Mantirix.
OOC:
-Satisfactory? I'd like to make things interesting for my fellow neighbors, and maybe take over a Hurrian successor state later, or move to India, next turn.
Dachspmg
Anonymous2U
Deadly Serious
ABNW Orders that never got used because of a communication error. Since these events never happened they didn't really affect anything in the current game
Bavaria: Anonymous2U
Absolute Monarchy: King Ludwig
Capital: Munich
Dissent: 2%
Base IC: 2
Military Spending: 2
Public Spending: 0
Private Enterprise: 0
Army: 3 Infantry Divisions, 1 Cavalry Division
Army Quality: 3
Navy: landlocked
Navy Quality: 1
Spending 2 IC
Because we are at war, please move 1 IC from Private Enterprise to Military 1 IC
Military Spending
2 IC on 1 Infantry Division.
Military Orders
Forces from Baden
1 Militia Division, 2 Infantry Divisions
Baden should spend 1 IC to upgrade Militia to infantry. Baden forces will integrate with Bavarian forces.
Mobilize all reserves in Bavaria and Baden
Continue to assist Austrians with defending Vienna. All 4 Infantry and 1 Calvary are used to defend Vienna. If the Russians retreat, then advance into Bohemia and liberate Bohemia. If that is liberated, then move to assist Austrians with defending or attacking the Russians.
Baden’s 3 Infantry or if no upgrade 2 Infantry and 1 Militia will lead the reserve units in an attack on west Prussia. They will strike north from Baden and drive the Prussian forces east and pinch them against the British forces in the east. Once all of western Prussia is occupied, then they will move to assist with defending Vienna and other Bavarian operation in Bavaria
If Bavaria or Baden are attacked, the military leaders will use their best judgment to assign the appropriate number of reserve forces to defend Baden or Bavaria.
Final Note: Canal project is being planned but will not be started until the war is completed.
Bavaria: Anonymous2U
Absolute Monarchy: King Ludwig
Capital: Munich
Dissent: 2%
Base IC: 2
Military Spending: 2
Public Spending: 0
Private Enterprise: 0
Army: 3 Infantry Divisions, 1 Cavalry Division
Army Quality: 3
Navy: landlocked
Navy Quality: 1
Spending 2 IC
Because we are at war, please move 1 IC from Private Enterprise to Military 1 IC
Military Spending
2 IC on 1 Infantry Division.
Military Orders
Forces from Baden
1 Militia Division, 2 Infantry Divisions
Baden should spend 1 IC to upgrade Militia to infantry. Baden forces will integrate with Bavarian forces.
Mobilize all reserves in Bavaria and Baden
Continue to assist Austrians with defending Vienna. All 4 Infantry and 1 Calvary are used to defend Vienna. If the Russians retreat, then advance into Bohemia and liberate Bohemia. If that is liberated, then move to assist Austrians with defending or attacking the Russians.
Baden’s 3 Infantry or if no upgrade 2 Infantry and 1 Militia will lead the reserve units in an attack on west Prussia. They will strike north from Baden and drive the Prussian forces east and pinch them against the British forces in the east. Once all of western Prussia is occupied, then they will move to assist with defending Vienna and other Bavarian operation in Bavaria
If Bavaria or Baden are attacked, the military leaders will use their best judgment to assign the appropriate number of reserve forces to defend Baden or Bavaria.
Final Note: Canal project is being planned but will not be started until the war is completed.
~Darkening~
Weep, Mother.
Birdnes 2. I should have attempted a defense, but I just wasn't up to it. EDIT: I've cleaned it up.
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They were waaay longer than anything I have sent Beej
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
In case anyone wanted to view my masterpiece epicly long orders from N3S.
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