The Real Problem with the US Pledge of Allegiance
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Douchebags? Really? I think you have Pink Floyd confused with Dave Matthews.
Truthfully I've never cared for live music, so despite my immense esteem for Pink Floyd I've never been tempted to see them in concert. I suppose I would have gone to their show at the Berlin Wall, but that's about it.
My wife worked with Allison Kraus and Robert Plant for a bit; I was tempted to see some of their shows and talk with him, but I honestly don't have any idea what I would have said. We have nothing in common.
Racsoviale
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Not the band - the people who were in to them in my highschool.
warpus
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I try to separate bands from any scene they might be a part of or any following they might have, so that I can enjoy their music without paying heed to any social construct that might have attempted to attach itself to the band in question.
Why prevent yourself from listening to good music just because a bunch of losers might enjoy it too?
Why prevent yourself from listening to good music just because a bunch of losers might enjoy it too?
Racsoviale
Smoke me a kipper!
It was highschool, this is how I thought and acted during that time: http://www.cracked.com/article_20146_5-ways-high-school-really-does-suck-according-to-science.html
Also...A vote for Roger Waters is a vote for your mother. Vote FREEEDOM! RATM 2016!
Also...A vote for Roger Waters is a vote for your mother. Vote FREEEDOM! RATM 2016!
warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
Eh, it was sort of a generic statement directed at God.
I saw it, thanks
Will do some remodelling when I get home.
I saw it, thanks
Will do some remodelling when I get home.
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
Well, you're all wrong because:
1. God does not exist.
2. Secession rights do not exist.
1. God does not exist.
2. Secession rights do not exist.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
3. Pledging to a piece of cloth is silly.
AlpsStranger
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Force a bunch of kids to say "under God" in an empty, meaningless gesture. Honestly. It serves my purposes better than you think.
If we made everyone go to Catholic school we could really drive those atheist numbers up.
If we made everyone go to Catholic school we could really drive those atheist numbers up.
Pledging allegience to an "indivisible" nation doesn't mean it has an automatic right to exist, it means you are pledging to uphold the ideal of an indivisible nation.
I personally would have no problem pledging allegiance to an indivisible Australia, under God, aside from the standard uneasiness I have for anything overtly jingoistic.
I personally would have no problem pledging allegiance to an indivisible Australia, under God, aside from the standard uneasiness I have for anything overtly jingoistic.
This is the best one out of the bunch. We should go back to that.
Bullying? Blech, I grew up here and I don't recall every being "forced" into saying the pledge. There was always a kid or two who didn't bother saying it (and by the time high school came around, like half the class, by then I stopped saying it and just stood up respectively during it). Maybe I just grew up in a relatively good area?
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Bullying? Blech, I grew up here and I don't recall every being "forced" into saying the pledge. There was always a kid or two who didn't bother saying it (and by the time high school came around, like half the class, by then I stopped saying it and just stood up respectively during it). Maybe I just grew up in a relatively good area?
Frankly, people I know uh, embellish, the pledge. "... of the United States of 'Mericuh", "... liberty and justice for penguins" etc. It's not that big of a deal, or a big deal in any sense at all, though I have begun saying it properly so as to do my part to resist the lot of you traitorous scoundrels.
Yeah, it just feels like something that people who want to nit-pick America to death argue about. It's just a strange little tradition, nothing wrong with that. It's not binding, it doesn't call for death and slaughter, it doesn't mean anything.
As others said in the thread, the pledge isn't a problem, and if it were, hell, it's pretty low down on the list of problems that need to be dealt with.
As others said in the thread, the pledge isn't a problem, and if it were, hell, it's pretty low down on the list of problems that need to be dealt with.
cybrxkhan
Asian Xwedodah
When I was younger, in elementary school, I used to replace "God" with "Buddha" because I was Buddhist (and still am... I guess) and couldn't think of better alternative. Luckily I grew up in a very diverse environment, so no one really cared.
Zack
99% hot gas
"indivisible" is not controversial at all
cybrxkhan
Asian Xwedodah
Lol, you're right on that. That stereotype still annoys me a bit sometimes, though. (I remember one time in Middle School a girl was doing a presentation on Buddhism and she said something like "In India, Buddhas look normal but in China Buddhas are drawn as fat" and I wanted to facepalm myself)
Anyhow, I remember when I was saying it in elementary school I just imagined the Buddha looking over all of America while the American flag was waving behind him... which kind of looks surreal now, come to think of it.
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