The Very-Many-Questions-Not-Worth-Their-Own-Thread Thread XL
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I don't think it's plausible, Cake. Once the server is set up, each player is very nearly free. Surges of players can be a problem, but mostly because they might overwhelm a logon server, or other individual part, and then get frustrated and quit playing. A buffet, in addition to being a service, sells actual product that takes labor and resources to produce, transport, store, and essentially copyable nearly without limit.
aimeeandbeatles
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Why cant people just not shoot each other
Habit.
It really depends on the business model. Like with free to play, pay to win games, everyone is somewhere on the customer -> product scale. If you are on the game 24/7 you may not pay your full share of the bills, but you are adding to the whole game, and without people on the game others will not join. So it is quite possible that just by being in game at quiet times they are making their presence worth while to the owners. Of course, if the fixed costs are most of the expenditure then their subscription is probably more than enough to pay their extra electricity bill.
Online game companies put a high value on players playing the game even if they don't pay money often or at all. If their revenue stream falls off, then they do things to fix that: more mtx, more ptw, more "gambling", etc. None of those work if there aren't lots of players who might buy something.
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I am a fan of therapy when it works, and I generally am quick to recommend it to others even if they're mentally well.
Yet, I've had exceptionally poor experiences in my own life. The best therapist I've ever had was a student doing practicum hours. She moved once she graduated, and this was six years ago. Since then, I've been throwing money away at therapists who were... not a fit. To some extent this is my fault; I'm not easy to interact with. But some of it is because they were using outdated models, or they simply were overwhelmed with my situation and couldn't parse it, let alone offer guidance or support. Vancouver has therapy schools and a decent population of therapists... but the vast majority specialize in stereotypical issues. This makes sense, but I fall outside the statistical norm, so it's not super great for me.
So I'm here to ask... for those who have had success in therapy... What do you look for? What makes you know if a therapist is likely to be compatible, or at least not a detriment? I am tired of wasting money and just picking at random. Searching for one who specializes in my stuff is impossible (and already attempted), so the shotgun approach has been the only viable option for me. Except it hasn't been viable at all, really. So I'm interested in knowing if there's something I can look at, something I can ask, before spending $120 on an appointment.
Yet, I've had exceptionally poor experiences in my own life. The best therapist I've ever had was a student doing practicum hours. She moved once she graduated, and this was six years ago. Since then, I've been throwing money away at therapists who were... not a fit. To some extent this is my fault; I'm not easy to interact with. But some of it is because they were using outdated models, or they simply were overwhelmed with my situation and couldn't parse it, let alone offer guidance or support. Vancouver has therapy schools and a decent population of therapists... but the vast majority specialize in stereotypical issues. This makes sense, but I fall outside the statistical norm, so it's not super great for me.
So I'm here to ask... for those who have had success in therapy... What do you look for? What makes you know if a therapist is likely to be compatible, or at least not a detriment? I am tired of wasting money and just picking at random. Searching for one who specializes in my stuff is impossible (and already attempted), so the shotgun approach has been the only viable option for me. Except it hasn't been viable at all, really. So I'm interested in knowing if there's something I can look at, something I can ask, before spending $120 on an appointment.
Have a list of questions to ask that are about your particular issues and how many patients or cases have they had related to those.
Example: How frequently in the past 5 years have you had patients who can only play online games if there is a god mode so they can avoid dying? Typically, how long (months/years)was your interaction with them?
Example: How frequently in the past 5 years have you had patients who can only play online games if there is a god mode so they can avoid dying? Typically, how long (months/years)was your interaction with them?
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"can only"
It's more like I want to have fun, and dying isn't a part of that equation.
Yeah, your question, in theory, is a good one, but the answer to that has always been "none." Some have experience with singular facets of it all, but never the whole spectrum.
I don't know. I lucked out by a) getting a bigger nerd than me and b) not actually being insane myself, just surrounded by insane people.
I don't have extensive XP, had only 2, and that also only because the first one got sick.
I didn't look deeply, because my problems were simple, and I liked them both, both gave good advise, as far as I felt it.
Right now, if I am looking for life advise in anything (on the internet, teying to figure out if it's worth anything), or giving it myself to someone else, I always evaluate if the overall direction is positive. Does it sound positive, and will the advise by empowering? Does it promote action over inactivity? Does it go forward, not backward?
Doesn't necessarily mean that it makes me feel better, it can be tough still, but can you see the intention?
That works well, at least for me. Your situation is very complicated and different, so no clue how transferable it is though.
I didn't look deeply, because my problems were simple, and I liked them both, both gave good advise, as far as I felt it.
Right now, if I am looking for life advise in anything (on the internet, teying to figure out if it's worth anything), or giving it myself to someone else, I always evaluate if the overall direction is positive. Does it sound positive, and will the advise by empowering? Does it promote action over inactivity? Does it go forward, not backward?
Doesn't necessarily mean that it makes me feel better, it can be tough still, but can you see the intention?
That works well, at least for me. Your situation is very complicated and different, so no clue how transferable it is though.
Same here, except mine was a guy doing practicum. It's too bad, because he was good (other than constantly asking how I felt "on a scale of 1 to 10" and not letting me give ".5" answers).
I think I ended up converting him to lolcat fandom. I arrived for an appointment one day and found out he'd made one of my Cheezburger lolpics (one that made the home page) into his desktop wallpaper.
Unfortunately, he had to move on when his practicum was finished. I never found anyone else who would even pretend not to be judgmental and try to stuff me into some category or other where I didn't fit.
Group therapy didn't work, either. One member of the group kept insisting that everyone online is just a figment of the imagination because we can't see each other. Finally, after several sessions like this, I told the person leading this that I really didn't want to keep hearing that I was just imagining the people I interacted with on a daily basis (this included a lot of people I regularly converse with here in OT), I didn't feel that I was getting anything out of it but frustration, and I was leaving.
So... I haven't had any spectacular successes, just mostly people judging, and being judged by family and others (including several people on this forum, though not OT regulars) for seeking help in the first place. Some people have the notion that "only crazy people go to therapists".
About the best suggestion I can offer would be to contact Canadian Mental Health and ask if they can recommend anyone who is more open-minded, has training in more than the usual issues, and is flexible. Or you could also try your provincial mental health association; the practicum student I had for awhile was with Alberta Mental Health.
But this was 9-10 years ago. I'm not sure I'd take my own advice here and now, given how the current band of <unmentionables> running this province are gutting everything they can in order to privatize it.
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@Synsensa Mmm perhaps listing what do you expect from a therapist? Maybe you don't need a solution and their solutions just turn you off, maybe you just need to genuinely being listened and understood, so you can dialectically find your solution with a "therapist" or someone that you trust?
Why don't we open sharing thread? Level up from rant thread? I think all of us here have many to be share?
Why don't we open sharing thread? Level up from rant thread? I think all of us here have many to be share?
We had a social group for that once upon a time... until the sudden migration to XenForo, that occurred without warning so there was no chance to save anything in the social groups.
Then we tried a separate forum with a support group... which is now gone, again for unexplained reasons.
It's something that is clearly needed - to have a safe, non-judgmental environment to talk, support, and vent and not be judged for that. However, the admins have been reluctant to allow this here. It seems relatively simple to me: An opt-in subforum that's hidden to non-opted-in people is easily doable for XenForo sites. It's where the more personal threads happen at TrekBBS, which is also a XenForo forum. Non-opted-in people there don't even know that subforum exists.
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That's weird, even though I believe good intended. People shares their story, like people walk, incident happened while we are walking likewise while we are sharing, no need to censor that.
If it's not here, it requires effort and feels different.
These issues can be intense, and you never know what will happen. And you'd like to prevent that.
I was once moderator in a forum, where we had no rules about this. Here, there's the rule that if some psychological ....er complications boil up, that you don't engage, delete the discussion (I think), and if necessary send over the advice to consult your doctor/therapist/priest (not sure if we had a link to a general page where to find help).
So I was mod in a forum there. I was on late at night, one of the guys contacted me via ... ICQ at that time, I think. We talked for a while about various things, which spilled over from a forum thread, where he was getting paranoid if or if not his girlfriend had cheated on him. I had no XP, we were talking for a solid 2h over ICQ about various things, mostly his issues, but also more about his GF, and also about this alcohol problems, and that he had been dry for a half year. The whole conversation worked him up a lot, he couldn't let it go about his GF, despite that I was sure there was nothing.
The conversation ended with him saying that he'll go to the next gas station, to get a six pack of beer.
I felt so crap. It felt really terrible.
And you know, the biggest psychological issues, the most pressing ones are probably suicide.
You don't want to have a discussion where the last post from a person is "I'm going to kill myself".
Not only for the person, but for everyone else who's in that discussion, and how they'll feel.
That's why we don't have these discussions here. Nobody is prepared for that. Go talk to someone, who's prepared for it. The people are getting paid for this. Go talk to them.
I was once moderator in a forum, where we had no rules about this. Here, there's the rule that if some psychological ....er complications boil up, that you don't engage, delete the discussion (I think), and if necessary send over the advice to consult your doctor/therapist/priest (not sure if we had a link to a general page where to find help).
So I was mod in a forum there. I was on late at night, one of the guys contacted me via ... ICQ at that time, I think. We talked for a while about various things, which spilled over from a forum thread, where he was getting paranoid if or if not his girlfriend had cheated on him. I had no XP, we were talking for a solid 2h over ICQ about various things, mostly his issues, but also more about his GF, and also about this alcohol problems, and that he had been dry for a half year. The whole conversation worked him up a lot, he couldn't let it go about his GF, despite that I was sure there was nothing.
The conversation ended with him saying that he'll go to the next gas station, to get a six pack of beer.
I felt so crap. It felt really terrible.
And you know, the biggest psychological issues, the most pressing ones are probably suicide.
You don't want to have a discussion where the last post from a person is "I'm going to kill myself".
Not only for the person, but for everyone else who's in that discussion, and how they'll feel.
That's why we don't have these discussions here. Nobody is prepared for that. Go talk to someone, who's prepared for it. The people are getting paid for this. Go talk to them.
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