Trump's statements and promises

[Kyriakos]

Going from what was said here, i suppose his speech was at any rate a bit better than the usual crap he says. Which is good, no? I don't plan to watch it, cause i am sure it is only better than garbage.

Anyway, it's not like it will stop the avalanche of polarization; Trump is part of that, and so are the media.

 

[onejayhawk]

If you were to look harder here, you'd see that the speech wasn't good "by all accounts"; it wasn't good by my account, for instance, or by Bill Donohue's in JR's quote. CNN did a poll and 78% of those polled regarded it as a good speech. That means 22% didn't.

Maybe I'm just quibbling about what the word "all" means. If by "all" you mean "most," then, yeah, by all accounts it was a very good speech. But by most accounts, that would be an odd definition of "all."

I finally found one negative article. it is not very negative.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...rumps_speech_was_not_presidential_133244.html

The buzz yesterday is evidently a Limbaughism. That speech was the first time most Democrats had seen Trump live. The coverage by supposedly reputable media was refuted by face to face reality.

J

 

[AdrienIer]

I finally found one negative article. it is not very negative.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...rumps_speech_was_not_presidential_133244.html

The buzz yesterday is evidently a Limbaughism. That speech was the first time most Democrats had seen Trump live. The coverage by supposedly reputable media was refuted by face to face reality.

J

The amount of partisanship in this post is through the roof. First the "I found one negative article" when JollyRoger posted one on the previous page. Then the idea that "most Democrats" would have never seen a Trump video is completely ridiculous.

 

[Kozmos]

The buzz yesterday is evidently a Limbaughism. That speech was the first time most Democrats had seen Trump live.

The debates didn't happen? This was Trump reading off a prompter and having his cheering block as per usual. That he looked presidential was byproduct of someone fitting him with a properly sized suit for once.

 

[Gori the Grey]

When the best part of your speech is the two minutes you spend not talking (and you spoil that the second you open your piehole), it probably wasn't a terribly good speech.

 

[Kyriakos]

When the best part of your speech is the two minutes you spend not talking (and you spoil that the second you open your piehole), it probably wasn't a terribly good speech.

Probably. But need one be reminded of W Bush, who didn't even know what his speech title was?

"This is... my state of the union... our state of the union?... My speech to the nation!"

More honest:

 

[Kyriakos]

A bit related, but this is still awesome:

 

[AdrienIer]

"My last, perhaps the last, correspondant's dinner"
Lol

Edit : 28:00 onward is very relevant these days

 

[Thorgalaeg]

Much better better than Jerry Seinfeld. I wonder why USA presidents are like showmen (good showmen like Obama or pretty bad like Trump) while European leaders are more like grey technocrats?

 

[Traitorfish]

Europe tried showmen in the 1930s. It wasn't a great experience.

 

[Kyriakos]

Europe tried showmen in the 1930s. It wasn't a great experience.

It still tries showmen. It has elected a few of them to high office too, and more will come soon.

 

[onejayhawk]

The amount of partisanship in this post is through the roof. First the "I found one negative article" when JollyRoger posted one on the previous page. Then the idea that "most Democrats" would have never seen a Trump video is completely ridiculous.

Of course it was partisan. What part of Limbaugh-ism did you not understand?

J

 

[Zkribbler]

Germany’s chancellor stood just a few feet away as President Donald Trump said her country’s trade negotiators had done a much better job than their American counterparts, but he would change that.

“Hopefully we can even it out,” Trump said. “We don’t want victory, we want fairness. All I want is fairness.”

Germany has no trade deals with the U.S.

 

[Zkribbler]

.. I wonder why USA presidents are like showmen (good showmen like Obama or pretty bad like Trump) while European leaders are more like grey technocrats?

The USA has a presidential system, wherein out leader is selected by the people.
Europe has a parliamentarian government, whereiin their leaders are selected by professional politicians.

 

[Traitorfish]

The USA has a presidential system, wherein out leader is selected by the people.
Europe has a parliamentarian government, whereiin their leaders are selected by professional politicians.

Technically the American president is selected by the electoral college.

 

[Broken_Erika]

That's how Trump won while loosing the popular vote. I think it's set up so that the smaller states don't feel left out.

 

[metalhead]

It was set up so that less populous slave states were less vulnerable to bullying by the coastal elites, some of whom had this ridiculous notion that Africans weren't chattel.

Come to think of it, things haven't really changed that much in 240 years

 

[Zkribbler]

It was set up so that less populous slave states were less vulnerable to bullying by the coastal elites, some of whom had this ridiculous notion that Africans weren't chattel.

Come to think of it, things haven't really changed that much in 240 years

Traitorfish and Broken Erika are correct. \

However, the electoral college was not set up to protect small slave states. Virginia was the most populous states; the other slaves states were moderate in sixe. Meanwhile free Rhode Island and Delaware were the smallest states. .

 

[Lohrenswald]

Europe has a parliamentarian government, whereiin their leaders are selected by professional politicians.

that are selected by the people, at least as much as in America

I'd also note that this system replaced the old one where the leaders were selected by a dictator by birthright

 

[Farm Boy]

Bite me Metal, but not in that weird jelly-filled inside-ass way.