2020 US Election (Part 3)

[mitsho]

So is this the place to discuss that Biden nominated John Kerry as a Special Representative for Climate Change sitting on the National Security Council? Because this - and all the other news regarding his cabinet - is exciting news and much more interesting than whatever election shenanigans Trump is trying to do still.

 

[Patine]

You don't say.

I don't agree. I think that your sweeping and absolutist statements just sinks your message utterly, I don't think you have traction with those who lack integrity.

I know you enjoy people asking you please, for the love of God, be less verbose. May I introduce a hashtag you can use?

#notall

Like, in this case, instead of insulting me and my target audience (and thus sinking your message with sweeping statements) just say #notallrightwing

"It's not <Insert Negative Trait> when we do it." That seems to be a popular motto nowadays. I admit, I have been guilty of it at times, but so have most others on these forums, including yourself, just now.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

So is this the place to discuss that Biden nominated John Kerry as a Special Representative for Climate Change sitting on the National Security Council? Because this - and all the other news regarding his cabinet - is exciting news and much more interesting than whatever election shenanigans Trump is trying to do still.

Also some results were certified. Might be relevant.

Oh and in Pennsylvania a court case got rejected, and fish do still swim in water.

 

[Arwon]

GSA finally called it

 

[Birdjaguar]

Trump plays golf and tweets while Americans die. 9-11 was a big deal 20 years ago when 3000 people died. 250,000+ have died in 10 months and Trump still does nothing but promote behavior that will kill even more. Are we up to 3 World Trade Centers a week yet? Yea Trump! He's making America Greater every day.

 

[Birdjaguar]

GSA finally called it

She should be the first person (after Trump) that gets shown the door on Jan 20th.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Link to video.

 

[IglooDame]

And, the GSA finally agreed to get Biden going.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/2020-election-vote-ballot-count-results/?id=74345513

 

[Patine]

Trump plays golf and tweets while Americans die. 9-11 was a big deal 20 years ago when 3000 people died. 250,000+ have died in 10 months and Trump still does nothing but promote behavior that will kill even more. Are we up to 3 World Trade Centers a week yet? Yea Trump! He's making America Greater every day.

Far too many Americans die than is acceptable or tolerable under EVERY U.S. President since the Progressive Era (the one at the very early part of the 20th Century). Maybe it's the whole political establishment, way of doing politics, utter lack of accountability, transparency, and REAL consequences for elected officials, and the immunity they operate with, and the horrid Duopoly as a whole and the rigged elections that make them de facto the only choices that can win that's the real, bigger problem, and not JUST Trump. Trump was just was taking advantage of a well-oiled, easily-abused injustice and atrocity engine he was just handed the keys to in January, 2017 - not one of his own personal design. And considering he was daft enough (as tyrant-wannabes go) to completely neglect to use and abuse the terrifying tool of tyranny that could have been at his disposal that was the massive act of treason by Bush, and renewed by Obama - the (un)Patriot Act - which he COULD have, because of the vague definition of the term "terrorist," within - had Antifa, BLM, and other such movements arrested en masse with no Miranda Rights and sent to Guantanamo Bay to be tortured by what is already the world's largest, most prolific, and best funded terrorist organization - the CIA - but is, for some reason, a key force in the War on Terror, and used PRISM against Democratic Party opponents - that is something to RELIEVED about. But, the establishment of injustice, atrocity, death, and soft tyranny in U.S. Government LONG predates Trump...

 

[Patine]

GSA finally called it

And, the GSA finally agreed to get Biden going.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/2020-election-vote-ballot-count-results/?id=74345513

What does "GSA," stand for?

 

[Imaus]

The transition begins. I thought Trump would at least keep denying it until the electors came together.

*Remastered ROTJ ending plays*

 

[Birdjaguar]

What does "GSA," stand for?

General Services Administration; It is a government department.

 

[Patine]

The transition begins. I thought Trump would at least keep denying it until the electors came together.

*Remastered ROTJ ending plays*

While he was absolutely horrid and awful, comparisons to Palpatine, or Hitler, are grossly hyperbolic. He was closer to Gadaffi, Niyazhov, or Mputo, really - an egotistical despot who did commit some notable atrocities, but isn't remotely comparable to any of the big, monstrous, blood-soaked tyrannical figures of infamy, like Nero. Tamerlane, Genghis and Kublai Khan, Ivan the Terrible, Isabella and Carlos I of Spain, and subordinates of theirs like Torquemada, Columbus, Cortes, and Pizzaro, as well as Mehmed II, Lenin, Enver Pasha, Stalin, Hideki, Hitler (yes), Mao, Kim Il-sung, Pol Pot, Juvenal Habyaramana, Omar el-Bashir, and George W. Bush. Let's put things in proportion, here, shall we?

 

[Arwon]

What does "GSA," stand for?

General Services Administration, I think they'd be roughly the equivalent of your Public Services and Procurement Canada, in that they run general administrative stuff for the rest of the civil service. That's things like managing real estate, contracts, payroll systems, etc.

But in a presidential republic with different kinds of transition arrangements than a parliamentary system, particularly a lot of staff moving into roles within the civil service from outside it, that kind of civil service support agency is also responsible for facilitating the presidential transition. The GSA sign off is a particular trigger for funding, offices and services being available from the bureaucracy for the new presidency's senior staff.

 

[Takhisis]

So is this the place to discuss that Biden nominated John Kerry as a Special Representative for Climate Change sitting on the National Security Council? Because this - and all the other news regarding his cabinet - is exciting news and much more interesting than whatever election shenanigans Trump is trying to do still.

That is certainly more of the type of thing that we should be seeing, BUT we also have a run-off election looming on which control of the Senate hinges.

And, as well, we have the ongoing challenged to the election result which are the US' hyperbillionaire class stress-testing the institutions, to see which breaches and weaknesses there are and where.

 

[Angst]

I find it hilarious that some Republicans want to write Trump's name in on the Georgia senate vote. I hope it happens, just for them to implode.

 

[Patine]

General Services Administration, I think they'd be roughly the equivalent of your Public Services and Procurement Canada, in that they run general administrative stuff for the rest of the civil service. That's things like managing real estate, contracts, payroll systems, etc.

But in a presidential republic with different kinds of transition arrangements than a parliamentary system, particularly a lot of staff moving into roles within the civil service from outside it, that kind of civil service support agency is also responsible for facilitating the presidential transition. The GSA sign off is a particular trigger for funding, offices and services being available from the bureaucracy for the new presidency's senior staff.

Thanks.

 

[Patine]

That is certainly more of the type of thing that we should be seeing, BUT we also have a run-off election looming on which control of the Senate hinges.

And, as well, we have the ongoing challenged to the election result which are the US' hyperbillionaire class stress-testing the institutions, to see which breaches and weaknesses there are and where.

So is this the place to discuss that Biden nominated John Kerry as a Special Representative for Climate Change sitting on the National Security Council? Because this - and all the other news regarding his cabinet - is exciting news and much more interesting than whatever election shenanigans Trump is trying to do still.

But why is the appointment of an obvious shill opponent who deliberately, in essence, differed next to none from (and belonged to the same infamous political fraternity as) a war criminal and treasonous Constitutional violator and illegal police instigator (Bush) praiseworthy for any positive appointment to government. He wasn't as Obama's first Secretary of State, and he isn't here. Kerry is a slimeball with no integrity or credibility. Why should anyone be celebratory, here?

 

[Colonel]

Far too many Americans die than is acceptable or tolerable under EVERY U.S. President since the Progressive Era (the one at the very early part of the 20th Century). Maybe it's the whole political establishment, way of doing politics, utter lack of accountability, transparency, and REAL consequences for elected officials, and the immunity they operate with, and the horrid Duopoly as a whole and the rigged elections that make them de facto the only choices that can win that's the real, bigger problem, and not JUST Trump. Trump was just was taking advantage of a well-oiled, easily-abused injustice and atrocity engine he was just handed the keys to in January, 2017 - not one of his own personal design. And considering he was daft enough (as tyrant-wannabes go) to completely neglect to use and abuse the terrifying tool of tyranny that could have been at his disposal that was the massive act of treason by Bush, and renewed by Obama - the (un)Patriot Act - which he COULD have, because of the vague definition of the term "terrorist," within - had Antifa, BLM, and other such movements arrested en masse with no Miranda Rights and sent to Guantanamo Bay to be tortured by what is already the world's largest, most prolific, and best funded terrorist organization - the CIA - but is, for some reason, a key force in the War on Terror, and used PRISM against Democratic Party opponents - that is something to RELIEVED about. But, the establishment of injustice, atrocity, death, and soft tyranny in U.S. Government LONG predates Trump...

My lord, are you by chance an Anarchist? We are a two party majority state, however that is not to say that we are intolerant of a multi-party state, our closet ally on the planet is the United Kingdom. You can scream from the roof tops that the system is corrupt but by and large the system is manned by a great many good people who are simply doing what is best for the American people. Sure do some individuals in the system take advantage, do some far overstep their authority, do some violate rules and laws, yes on all accounts. This is not an indictment of the whole system. There is corruption in every government, the US has had its fair share but by and large the system works as intended and in the best interests of the American people.

On a similar note the best thing I can say about President-Elect Biden is that he understands that to move the country forward in the right direction it needs to be small incremental change over a long period of time. Mass changes to the system spark some of the fiercest partisanship and result in some of the worst regression on a national scale. Every generation on average has one or two moments where a massive change can occur which will result in a significant leap forward but this is almost always followed by a slap backward, ala the election of President Trump.

 

[Zardnaar]

My lord, are you by chance an Anarchist? We are a two party majority state, however that is not to say that we are intolerant of a multi-party state, our closet ally on the planet is the United Kingdom. You can scream from the roof tops that the system is corrupt but by and large the system is manned by a great many good people who are simply doing what is best for the American people. Sure do some individuals in the system take advantage, do some far overstep their authority, do some violate rules and laws, yes on all accounts. This is not an indictment of the whole system. There is corruption in every government, the US has had its fair share but by and large the system works as intended and in the best interests of the American people.

On a similar note the best thing I can say about President-Elect Biden is that he understands that to move the country forward in the right direction it needs to be small incremental change over a long period of time. Mass changes to the system spark some of the fiercest partisanship and result in some of the worst regression on a national scale. Every generation on average has one or two moments where a massive change can occur which will result in a significant leap forward but this is almost always followed by a slap backward, ala the election of President Trump.

Same thing in the 70s. A lot of liberals got turfed out of office and Reagan in the 80s.

Progressives might not like Blair or Clinton but progressives couldn't get elected.