2020 US Election (Part 3)

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he doesn't
Sure he does. He fights for the people the anti-Trump cult make fun of.

he is the bully
This is indefensible. The media and the Washington bureaucracy are the bully, with your support.

Yes, he fights for them against the other 250 million people in a viscous and cutthroat manner that has further alienate a populace from itself in a dramatic way so much so that vast amounts of right wingers believe. . .

This election was stolen
Covid is not a problem
This economy is great for everyone
Racism is solved
Socialists are trying to take over America
Child sex trafficking is right around every corner
Regulation is the root of all businesses ills
The earth is flat. . .

Oh wait that last one is still just a subset of the GOP voter base.
Eight swings and seven misses. It's good you stopped before be the end of your inning.

e.g.
Worst covid in the world. indefensible
Global warming unabated. As if anyone could have done otherwise
started & lost trade war with China indefensible
After the Kurds defeated ISIS, took credit for their win and then abandoned them to the fury of the Turks indefensible
Failed to build his promised wall 50/50 in progress and failed to impose a ban on all Muslims Never attempted
Smaller job growth than under Obama normal then crashed the market indefensible
Stirred up racial violence indefensible
Told more lies that all other Presidents total Obama was a serial liar and so was Clinton
Remained silents when Putin put a bounty on US troops in Afghanistan unproven and so what anyway
Restarted Iranian development of nuclear weapons indefensible
Increased pollution indefensible
Deprived millions of Americans of their health coverage indefensible ACA is still the law
Violated the Emoluments Clause by doing private deals with foreign dignitaries. You mean Biden, right?
That's a lot of factually indefensible accusations.
 
Plankton in the sea: Am I a joke to you?

I believe that seaweed farms have a big future
They should at least be able to replace bulk food farms producing for livestock like cattle, pigs, chicken and by that prevent soil erosion, use of fertilisers and pesticides.... and further chopping of tropical forest.
You only need ropes that you seed with seaweed and let grow and harvest rope by rope.

What could be interesting is growing seaweed and sink the ropes into deepsea to help wash out CO2 from the atmosphere.

Lots of research and trials are being done for all kinds of applications.
The North Sea between the UK and mainland Europe will in the future be filled with windmills and seaweed farms and some shipping lanes.

Landlocked countries will crave for sea surface.
 
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A tranche of votes were counted in AZ. Trump took them at 53.4%, which is short of the 58% margin he needs to be on pace to flip.
 
Or 2 feet from the shoreline in Florida. It'll be underwater with half the state soon enough.

New York could also put a statue of a drowning orange man aside the statue of liberty
 
So here's a question for our worldly friends... You've seen a few of us Americans attempting to reconcile a bit in this thread... What are the chances Biden can restore our standing on the world stage and we can go back to being better friends internationally? Is it likely? How much damage was done?
I am quite unsure about that. Though I'd be nice to not be shamed if I display a variant of a US flag, even if it's not representing the US.
 
So here's a question for our worldly friends... You've seen a few of us Americans attempting to reconcile a bit in this thread... What are the chances Biden can restore our standing on the world stage and we can go back to being better friends internationally? Is it likely? How much damage was done?

I would not be too worried about that standing WHEN you sort out at the domestic politics that a Trumpist style GOP is not your next POTUS in 2024.

Biden has already made a list of topics like the Paris convention etc, etc, etc, etc.
Biden has also already sent out trusted political friends to inform other countries in the world his draft position for the US at the global transnational stage.
 
I believe that seaweed farms have a big future
They should at least be able to replace bulk food farms producing for livestock like cattle, pigs, chicken and by that prevent soil erosion, use of fertilisers and pesticides.... and further chopping of tropical forest.
You only need ropes that you seed with seaweed and let grow and harvest rope by rope.

What could be interesting is growing seaweed and sink the ropes into deepsea to help wash out CO2 from the atmosphere.

Lots of research and trials are being done for all kinds of applications.
The North Sea between the UK and mainland Europe will in the future be filled with windmills and seaweed farms and some shipping lanes.

Landlocked countries will crave for sea surface.

I actually hope I never live to see the day when the whole Western World will have to adopt major Japanese staples - seaweed and soy - as dominant food products, but I can see it in the foreseeable future, unfortunately.
 
Soy is adopted already, and not because "we have to." Soy is delicious! Kind of. (this message paid for bySoy Boys for Buy Farm Boy's Soy)
 
I actually hope I never live to see the day when the whole Western World will have to adopt major Japanese staples - seaweed and soy - as dominant food products, but I can see it in the foreseeable future, unfortunately.

For bulk foods for livestock I am quite ok with seaweed.
And starch-proteins-fatty acids used in processed food like pizza, undefined saucages etc. You will not taste the difference being the Big Food's taste anyway.

All kinds of fast growing vegetables will in the future go into multi-layer greenhouses (low water and CO2 footprint and importantly no pesticides needed)
For slower growing and more tuber like vegetables it could very well go to multi-cultures (as opposite of mono-cultures). Not only crop rotation but also all kinds criscross mixed whereby harvesting and seeding is done by "combiners" having many robot arms and eyes.
This will prevent diseases and weeds can be picked away. In essence you focus on managing your soil and your microorganisms incl pests IN your soil.
And my favorite, though more expensive, will be the farm-to-fork "farms". Like the traditional way in medieval time but also the rapid industrial urbanisation time where directly outside the residential area there are peoples gardens with a very small barn or houselet.
 
Soy is adopted already, and not because "we have to." Soy is delicious! Kind of. (this message paid for bySoy Boys for Buy Farm Boy's Soy)

I must dissent. Taste, as always, is subjective.

So here's a question for our worldly friends... You've seen a few of us Americans attempting to reconcile a bit in this thread... What are the chances Biden can restore our standing on the world stage and we can go back to being better friends internationally? Is it likely? How much damage was done?

The wounds look deep, I'm afraid, and torn viciously. A lot of internal hatred has stirred in the last several years, and many followers and members of both major parties have been full and complicent offenders and participants - very much a "it takes two to Tango," scenario. Such hatred and division is at it's worst since after the 1860's, and this election almost looked like it would be like 1824 and 1876 in turns of not being accepted by a great majority (it might still). Biden will have to steer a VERY course in things if he wants to unify, and not exacerbate the situation.
 
A lot of internal hatred has stirred in the last several years, and many followers and members of both major parties have been full and complicent offenders and participants - very much a "it takes two to Tango," scenario.

How?
 
I want to point out the fatalistic streak being born out by our right wing friends in these threads these days. This is why I say they are turning into comic book level villains. Irony of that when one of their favorite things is
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

I can share some really pessimistic stories (from my parents) on that from the occupation period by the Nazi's in the Netherlands.
It's like with a match of your footballclub..
When they lost THEY did lose..
When they win, WE did win.
 
Biden up 27k in PA. He now leads by 0.4%, which is just under the recount threshold of 0.5%. Scuttlebutt on 538 is that networks will call if he passes that threshold which could happen tonight.
 
I want to point out the fatalistic streak being born out by our right wing friends in these threads these days. This is why I say they are turning into comic book level villains. Irony of that when one of their favorite things is
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

Except that your "comic book," narrative is one of those indy deconstructionist comic series, like Watchmen or Spawn, where the "heroes," are rotten to the core as well.
 
The Biden announcement is due in 5 minutes
 
So here's a question for our worldly friends... You've seen a few of us Americans attempting to reconcile a bit in this thread... What are the chances Biden can restore our standing on the world stage and we can go back to being better friends internationally? Is it likely? How much damage was done?

What are the chances Biden can implement reform to decrease the odds of crackpot morons being elected in the future?

Friendship is easy to fix, but it's hard to get anything done in good faith if any election might result in electing a toddler who poops on treaties and accords that took a Herculean effort to implement in the first place.
 

You've obviously been wearing partisan blinders, like so very many. I haven't. I have seen very clearly the ugliness, hatred, venom, vitriol, bad stereotypes, and absolutist and binary, and other toxic thinking, that many supporters of BOTH major U.S. Parties have engaged in unrestrained of late. This very OT forum has been an instructive microcosm. But, again, wearing partisan blinders (either blue or red filtered) makes it difficult to see the whole story.
 
Except that your "comic book," narrative is one of those indy deconstructionist comic series, like Watchmen or Spawn, where the "heroes," are rotten to the core as well.

Yea I will not argue this, so how do we bring back a significant section of the populace who has fallen into clear despair back from the brink before its too late without turning into villains ourselves.

Also the very fact that I am asking this in this manner proves that many are not past the point of repairing these internal rifts. Stop bothsidesing stuff jfc.
 
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