2020 US Election (Part 3)

[innonimatu]

I liked this one too, seemed to fit

That was civ3? Or freeciv?

 

[Zelig]

Biden sounds like a President. Forgot what that was like

I'm never super comfortable with granting too much credence to oratory skills for politicians. I want my politicians to be an effective administrators - for that, what's important is thoughtful and precise writing and the ability to deal with others, not oration.

If I want to watch a speech I can go watch something by Aaron Sorkin.

With the amount of virus circulating in the White House they're going to have to deep clean it and keep Biden out for a while after the inauguration and before he moves in. Might be safer just to burn the bloody thing down again, and start over.

Or just leave it empty for a week and don't bother with any cleaning.

Hygiene Theater Is a Huge Waste of Time

 

[Drakle]

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1324948324718436352

One reason "shy Trump voters" doesn't make as much sense as you'd think as an explanation for polling errors this year is that Republican candidates for Congress generally outperformed their polls by more than Trump did.

"It's harder to reach certain types of voters on the phone, including in ways that are hard to solve with demographic weighting" has always been a more robust explanation than "people are too ashamed to admit they like Trump".

Anyway, a good lukewarm take is that declining response rates to polls—long cited as a reason for concern—are starting to take their toll, but not in a way that will be especially predictable. Indeed if the effects were predictable, they would be easy to solve.

The poll and averages might just be borked generally. The 538 demographic and past vote weighting did a better job, so they will have to be relied on more strongly in the future.

And the House and Senate Democrats running behind Biden, seems to be pretty good proof that Bernie would have lost. Biden did have the record-breaking turnout all over the place, and the election was decided by those who split tickets with Biden/Republican.

https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/status/1324841857516474371

A look at the cumulative statewide House vote in states like GA, PA and WI suggests that the prez race in these states could have played out very differently. And are consistent with the idea that Dem primary voters made a VERY wise choice in Biden.

Anyway Nationalised races in states like Kentucky just destroyed down-ballot Democrats. Down 12 maybe 13 seats.

Poor Beshear. Little he can do now, and He might be the last Democrat elected statewide in Kentucky.

 

[El_Machinae]

Which means greater suffering for the people. Greater costs for energy sources that are less efficient and have to do twice the work just to scrub the carbon adding even more to the cost.

It has to be measured in opportunity cost, so you're comparing to the suffering that's going to be caused by not scrubbing the carbon. And then there's the third option, not emitting the carbon in the first place.

But yeah, the discovery of viable alternatives needs sufficient funding and time. And if there is no alternative available, the only solution is some type of conservation, because every marginal emitted ton causes an increasing amount of damage. And some of the tons we emit make it less likely that we will find an alternative in time. There are multiple intersecting factors.

If you look, the carbon intensity has been getting better for quite some time. This means that we are getting more benefit per ton, which also means that we have theoretically more resources to devote to offsetting the damage or preventing it.

For us to handle it properly, we just need some pretty significant shifts in spending patterns

 

[Evie]

With the amount of virus circulating in the White House they're going to have to deep clean it and keep Biden out for a while after the inauguration and before he moves in. Might be safer just to burn the bloody thing down again, and start over.

Canada would be glad to offer its expertise in the domain to assist your effort and rebuild the ties between our nations.

 

[adcarrymaokai]

That was civ3? Or freeciv?

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[Farm Boy]

Canada would be glad to offer its expertise in the domain to assist your effort and rebuild the ties between our nations.

... lets talk about soft lumber!

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[Drakle]

You know, this Presidential map, aka a Narrow blue wall and Arizona win, and a possible GA and NC flip might have been the 2016 result if it wasn't for James Comey. So 4 years of Trump, and 250,000 Americans dead, just to patch over Comey's blunder.

 

[Akka]

Are you seriously arguing that anyone loves Biden or that they don't hate Trump? Listen to Whitlock's video. Trump's people love him because he fights for them, he stands up to the bully and he never gives up. I understand you find loving Trump incomprehensible, but 50+ million people do.

I'll grant that Trump never gives up, but WTH did you ever saw Trump fight "standing up to the bully for someone" ? He IS the bully, bullying others is half of what he ever does, and he never fought for anyone but himself.
It's frightening just how blind you manage to be, the guy openly lied and lied and lied as soon as he opened his mouth, with verifiable falsehood by the truckload. You really need to be actively of bad faith to not notice it.

So here's a question for our worldly friends... You've seen a few of us Americans attempting to reconcile a bit in this thread... What are the chances Biden can restore our standing on the world stage and we can go back to being better friends internationally? Is it likely? How much damage was done?

A lot. There is the surface damage that can be easily mended (Trump insulting people and countries is more eye-rolling than a true cause for offense toward a whole nation), but there is a lot of much deeper stuff that will have consequences for years or even decade (Europe suddenly realizing that the USA might abandon it some day lead to some discreet but fundamental shift in overarching policy). He seriously hurt the USA standing and credibility in the world, in ways that will probably not really heal until a new crisis that will test them.

 

[Sommerswerd]

... lets talk about soft lumber!

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Pine is garbage for bats. Ash is where its at... or maple.

 

[Patine]

I'm never super comfortable with granting too much credence to oratory skills for politicians. I want my politicians to be an effective administrators - for that, what's important is thoughtful and precise writing and the ability to deal with others, not oration.

If I want to watch a speech I can go watch something by Aaron Sorkin.



Or just leave it empty for a week and don't bother with any cleaning.

Hygiene Theater Is a Huge Waste of Time

Fortunately, politicians up here in Canada tend to be more boring speakers, wouldn't you say?

 

[Patine]

... lets talk about soft lumber!

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Deal breaker! Try again in a decade.

 

[Farm Boy]

lol, a decade? It hasn't sorted out in 200+ years!

Bonds used a maple one, right?

 

[Hrothbern]

Perhaps we see a personal trainer paid by Rupert Murdoch heading in a hurry to the WH to give mr Trump a speed training in grace.

Multiple Rupert Murdoch-owned conservative media outlets in the United States have shifted their messaging in a seeming effort to warn readers and viewers that Donald Trump may well have lost the presidential election.
The new messaging appears to be closely coordinated, and it includes an appeal to Trump to preserve his “legacy” by showing grace in defeat. The message is being carried on Fox News and in the Wall Street Journal and the New York Post – all outlets avidly consumed by Trump himself, especially Fox.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...urn-on-trump-urging-him-to-concede-with-grace

After all... Trump, that surprise opportunity, has been just a useful bully dog... served but now outlived his purpose... and should not screw up the interests of the bigger picture

 

[Sommerswerd]

lol, a decade? It hasn't sorted out in 200+ years!

Bonds used a maple one, right?

He has no idea...Gimme a break. Ash is the most balanced. I mean kids just use aluminum, which BTW has a sweet sound when its solid (fancy carbon composite has a dull sickly sound) but I love the old school, wood... especially for giving the kids FUNGO... but I usually use whats on hand, which means metal.

 

[Zkribbler]

You know, this Presidential map, aka a Narrow blue wall and Arizona win, and a possible GA and NC flip might have been the 2016 result if it wasn't for James Comey. So 4 years of Trump, and 250,000 Americans dead, just to patch over Comey's blunder.

...and the joke is: Trump hates Comey.

 

[Berzerker]

New rules... "If your position is they have to stop counting the ballots in the states where you're ahead or its fraud, and they have to keep counting the ballots in the states where you're behind or its fraud, you have to consider maybe its you who is the fraud" - Bill Maher

 

[Zardnaar]

Perhaps we see a personal trainer paid by Rupert Murdoch heading in a hurry to the WH to give mr Trump a speed training in grace.



After all... Trump, that surprise opportunity, has been just a useful bully dog... served but now outlived his purpose... and should not screw up the interests of the bigger picture

Boil the water to get what you want then turn the heat down.

Hope the pot doesn't boil over.

 

[Hrothbern]

Boil the water to get what you want then turn the heat down.

Hope the pot doesn't boil over.

yes
and keep warm at the backburner to be ready for the next elections

I wonder whether the Dems can play the game so that without risking this election result and "decency"... they can encourage Trump to further damage the GOP.

 

[Yeekim]

And tell me will it be cheaper?

Can I interest you in some water-cooled, graphite-moderated reactors with a positive void coefficient and no containment buildings around them?