2020 US Election (Part 3)

[lymond]

That is pretty crazy.

Twitter perma-banned his account today

 

[Lexicus]

This cannabis-pushing crap (and the intimation that everyone has to succumb to the weakness of dulling their mental faculties to deal with any problems in life) has really gotten old. In fact, it's gotten downright disgusting and lowly.

Also sir, this is a Wendy's drive-through

 

[hobbsyoyo]

I'm not the one being condescending.

Yes you are.

And I don't even care. To paraphrase Tim (PBUH), I don't care if you come in here and poop all over the floor. Just when you do it, don't call the victim card for getting called out.

You said some extremely vitriolic, ugly, condescending crap. Don't be a baby, own it.

 

[BenitoChavez]

Twitter perma-banned his account today

Which one? Bannon or Don Jr.?

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Which one? Bannon or Don Jr.?

Bannon

 

[AmazonQueen]

Bannon

And his lawyers have quit!

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Would Trump have to pay the recount out of his pocket? (I mean I suppose he can set up some public fund for it?).
I am not really seeing him throw his own money on this - unless he really believes it could change something.

Depends on the states but sometimes the requester does have to pay.

 

[Lexicus]

You said some extremely vitriolic, ugly, condescending crap. Don't be a baby, own it.

To be fair I wouldn't say it was exactly condescending, but it was very antagonizing and complaining about "condescension" certainly doesn't seem like being a good sport after saying something like that.

 

[GenMarshall]

You're not going to round up people who aren't straight white males and put em in camps are you? And before you ridicule the idea that you would do this, remember I am just offering up my fears based on what I see you post, and am open to have them challenged.

I'm going to be real frank right now, you're not helping whatsoever. I haven't stated, anywhere, in any of my posts of that statement. That's utterly ridiculous statement you've made right there.

Calling it now; @GenMarshall Is one of those people who think a character being anything other than a white, straight male and believes identity politics is paying attention to minorities that have been ignored for decades

I can assure you that the statements you put forward are very, very wrong.

And I don't even care. To paraphrase Tim (PBUH), I don't care if you come in here and poop all over the floor. Just when you do it, don't call the victim card for getting called out.
You said some extremely vitriolic, ugly, condescending crap. Don't be a baby, own it.

I ain't owning up to it. But apparently you're not interested in debunking the statement and go right for the jugular and attack the person. If you have no interest in debunking the claims to help me sort out old ideas from an old echo chamber, then cease trying to attack me.

 

[Kyriakos]

I see people declare Cloud the winner when there are so many silent voters around. If this carries on a recount or suing may come into play ^_^

I think there's no need to fight. Both sides have good people.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

I can assure you that the statements you put forward are very, very wrong.

You literally said that you don't like identity politics in your hobbies and that you worry the crazy left are going to round up white straight males

I'm not sure you're aware of what vibes you give off, maybe you should think about that my friend

 

[Sommerswerd]

Depends on the states but sometimes the requester does have to pay.

The hoops that Trump is gearing up to go through to avoid losing the Presidency is a perfect example of a situation that makes me prefer SCOTUS Justices have lifetime appointments. Because Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett are on the Court for life. They don't owe Trump anything, he literally has no leverage on them. He might feel like they are supposed to support him, but they aren't an Attorney General that serves "at his pleasure".

He may want them to feel ingratiated to him, but they don't... because they don't have to. They feel like they earned their spot on the Court and that they deserve to be there and they can literally tell him to go eff himself and laugh in his face, and he can't do squat about it.

 

[Akka]

For starters, I did not vote for him in 2016 and just lived out my life normally. I did not entertain the idea of attacking Trump because I've been through it before with George W. Bush during his administration (For the record, I voted for Kerry in 2004 and I wasn't old enough to vote in 2000) and saw that it was not worth attacking Trump and lived out my life as normal, until around the time Gamergate came around and became miffed with identity politics being rammed down my throat.

The whole "Let's make fun of Orange Man Bad" did not appeal to me since I've already gone through "Let's make fun of Dubya" when I was younger.

Well, I understand your point, but I'm of the opinion that Duby and Trump were dishonest, incompetent (and in the case of Trump, unhinged) and criminal enough to deserve being mocked and attacked. Their rightful place is in jail, and I'm not talking about their policies (as much as I despise their policies, it's not only their rights but their duty to enact them) but their corruption.
Won't blame you for not considering it funny, but I'd say in these case, humour was more a way to find some escapism and to land some required criticism.

And I certainly don't disagree with your disgust about identity politics either. I've left the forum for months and I don't bother with most topics because of it and the rabid fanaticism we can find in it. Doesn't mean Trump wasn't far worse nevertheless.

 

[Zardnaar]

Dude there's other people waiting for a hit on this

Seriously though, for a person in your position you sure are judgemental.

Calling it now; @GenMarshall Is one of those people who think a character being anything other than a white, straight male is "political" and believes identity politics is paying attention to minorities that have been ignored for decades

That's fine it's the lectures, hyperbole, accusations of white privilege (ironically from whites) that gets old.

And really counter productive.

Apparently Biden in Florida came across as condescending. He did the old PoC have been downtrodden approach but they didn't see themselves that way.

So you have white urban liberals concerned about white privilege in effect talking down to PoC.

It's not the approach I would take but that's just me.

 

[Patine]

Dude there's other people waiting for a hit on this

Seriously though, for a person in your position you sure are judgemental.

Calling it now; @GenMarshall Is one of those people who think a character being anything other than a white, straight male is "political" and believes identity politics is paying attention to minorities that have been ignored for decades

I'm judgemental? Do you ever read your own posts?

Also, I have never expressed any agreement with what you are accusing @GenMarshall of (whether or not he truly is guilty of it), I am merely saying, and have said, that hatred, bad stereotypes, bigotry, and absolutist thinking are found among both American Conservatives and American Progressives. What you seem unable to even consider remotely possible, or acceptable to mention, is that this form of thinking has ever been expressed by anyone but the Conservative - or that you, yourself, have shown such viewpoints in your posts. Regardless of baseless lies and slander said right to my face quite a few times here by people who know nothing about me, I have never defended or attempted to justify such viewpoints among Conservatives - but I do condemn them WHEREEVER they appear, regardless of the ideology or background of the one doing, and especially if hypocrisy, double-standards, and outright denial are used as "shields."

 

[Lexicus]

I'm going to be real frank right now, you're not helping whatsoever. I haven't stated, anywhere, in any of my posts of that statement. That's utterly ridiculous statement you've made right there.

Well, now you know how we feel about your statement.

Doesn't mean Trump wasn't far worse nevertheless.

And let's not pretend Trump's politics aren't just white/male identity politics.

I'm judgemental?

Yes, just a tad bit...

 

[Samson]

The first one. For whatever reason, they were more confident in their models in that state than others.

You know, I was going to put in that that is the radioactive monkey option. I did not really consider the possibility that Fox news would do something because it was true and good.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

You know, I was going to put in that that is the radioactive monkey option. I did not really consider the possibility that Fox news would do something because it was true and good.

Right?
Their head analyst made a pretty good case as to why they called it after getting a lot of backlash. His answer was basically: math

 

[Cloud_Strife]

It's so weird that @Akka thinks American politics isn't already Inherently based upon identity, he must have missed out on the entire history of America

Almost as if he thinks that being white, straight and male is the default and anything that differs is an aberration to shun and anhor

 

[Patine]

Well, I understand your point, but I'm of the opinion that Duby and Trump were dishonest, incompetent (and in the case of Trump, unhinged) and criminal enough to deserve being mocked and attacked. Their rightful place is in jail, and I'm not talking about their policies (as much as I despise their policies, it's not only their rights but their duty to enact them) but their corruption.
Won't blame you for not considering it funny, but I'd say in these case, humour was more a way to find some escapism and to land some required criticism.

And I certainly don't disagree with your disgust about identity politics either. I've left the forum for months and I don't bother with most topics because of it and the rabid fanaticism we can find in it. Doesn't mean Trump wasn't far worse nevertheless.

Almost every sitting and retired American Federal lawmaker, President, Vice-President, and Cabinet Secretary, as well as every single member of every unaccountable "alphabet soup," agency, and quite a few military officers deserve trial and long sentences in prison, as do the DNC, RNC, and FEC, for electoral interference, malfeasance, and rigging, all of the powerful corporate plutocrats who bribed government to commit many of these crimes, and the Federal justices for allowing it all to happen. Your view of justice lacks vision!