2020 US Election (Part 3)

[cardgame]

70% of voters support universal healthcare, a progressive policy. Progressives may not be a majority in a corporatist Democratic party, but that doesn't mean they don't represent the majority of views.

And like I keep trying to bring up all the time, populist/progressive/ "left" referendums and ballot measures win all the time, even in red states.

 

[adcarrymaokai]

At this point Pete Buttigieg or Juan Guiado may as well declare themselves the winners.

And like I keep trying to bring up all the time, populist/progressive/ "left" referendums and ballot measures win all the time, even in red states.

Yup. Florida voted for $15 minimum wage but against Biden. Fiscally liberal, socially conservative.

Meanwhile, CA voted for Biden and also against Uber treating its drivers as benefits-worthy employees. Socially liberal, fiscally conservative.

 

[Farm Boy]

And IL just shot down progressive taxation, Card. Nobody trusts Springfield. It didn't even just fail to clear 60% of the vote. It just flat lost. Argh.

 

[adcarrymaokai]

Sadly, Nancy Pelosi didn't get blown out, but who knows, maybe the Congress can kick her out of her speaker of the house position.

 

[Zardnaar]

Sadly, Nancy Pelosi didn't get blown out, but who knows, maybe the Congress can kick her out of her speaker of the house position.

She's been around a bit to long.

 

[adcarrymaokai]

I would propose AOC, but the Dems will never let it happen.

 

[adcarrymaokai]

In other news, the squad blew their challengers out of the water and added a few more members... all the while corporate Dems in Kentucky and Georgia blew 200 million for failed campaigns. The voters aren't dumb and can see through the BS.

 

[GenMarshall]

When you live in a state that is reasonably well run, are surrounded by neighbors who are reasonably tolerant, and are reasonably successful, Washington might as well be Timbuktu.

That's a bubble I live in, and I can admit it.

I'm really not that aware of how folks in other states are trying to be awful to each other, because generally the things folks fret about are an individual state's attempt to become more awful. As my state doesn't generally do that, and Washington doesn't try to compel my state to do something awful, it's not something I pay much mind to.

I think you and I are pretty in the same boat and have the luxury of being in that state. Though I really hate the use of "bubble" since it just conjures up bad memories about echo chambers.

 

[Joij21]

And why did it take millions of years? (Hint: it is related to a proper formulation of the second law of thermodynamics).

You're only proving my point that solving climate change through plants is pointless. If it takes millions of years then it's untenable.

Biden is just going to tax all through the roof for dreams of fairy tech.

 

[Ajidica]

In other news, the squad blew their challengers out of the water and added a few more members...

Without knowing who the new Squad members are, they were all in sapphire-blue districts. If they didn't blow their GOP challenger out of the water that would be surprising.

 

[Zardnaar]

Without knowing who the new Squad members are, they were all in sapphire-blue districts. If they didn't blow their GOP challenger out of the water that would be surprising.

Yeah the ones that list there seats most if them look like gains from 2018 where the centrists overperforms.

The seats were marginal I suppose not sapphire blue.

 

[innonimatu]

Without knowing who the new Squad members are, they were all in sapphire-blue districts. If they didn't blow their GOP challenger out of the water that would be surprising.

It«s still nice to see that money didn't easily bought votes for the corporate democrats elsewhere.

 

[adcarrymaokai]

Without knowing who the new Squad members are, they were all in sapphire-blue districts. If they didn't blow their GOP challenger out of the water that would be surprising.

They did blow out their Democratic challengers in the primaries. Also, the fact that a hijabi woman is very popular in freaking Minnesota shows that people care about policy the most.

Also, can you imagine Ilhan Omar getting elected in the land of baguettes? Nah. The baguettes are too Islamophobic for that. Somehow the US is not that bad in comparison.

 

[Ajidica]

They did blow out their Democratic challengers in the primaries. Also, the fact that a hijabi woman is very popular in freaking Minnesota shows that people care about policy the most.

I'm pretty sure her district contains one of the largest Somali communities in the United States, she also benefits from having the University of Minnesota and all its students right across the river and Midtown/Uptown which is entirely filled with ethnic immigrants or liberal hipsters.
Trust me, it wasn't on policy that she won. Every Democrat coming out of that district is going to be broadly similar.

 

[Patine]

70% of voters support universal healthcare, a progressive policy. Progressives may not be a majority in a corporatist Democratic party, but that doesn't mean they don't represent the majority of views.

A Progressive policy in the United States, a fait accompli that no party with any real clout or real chance of gaining significant seat count in Canada or the UK shows any plan or appetite to try and upend. Why is the wealthiest nation on Earth and the so-called "leader of the Free World," so far behind on these kinds of issues? I'm absolutely certain it's not JUST Republican policy. I think another major party is failing there, too...

 

[Patine]

I think you and I are pretty in the same boat and have the luxury of being in that state. Though I really hate the use of "bubble" since it just conjures up bad memories about echo chambers.

I've never been in an echo chamber based on any ideological point of view. Mostly because I like to debate and take to task people I believe are erroneous or foolhardy, in my opinion, regardless of their ideology or socio-political stance. Are they really as bad as they say?

 

[cardgame]

A Progressive policy in the United States, a fait accompli that no party with any real clout or real chance of gaining significant seat count in Canada or the UK shows any plan or appetite to try and upend. Why is the wealthiest nation on Earth and the so-called "leader of the Free World," so far behind on these kinds of issues? I'm absolutely certain it's not JUST Republican policy. I think another major party is failing there, too...

only counts as failure if there's an attempt

 

[JPetroski]

How is this not called yet?

 

[Zardnaar]

How is this not called yet?

Probably to avoid accusations if calling it before votes are counted.

 

[El_Machinae]

Plants can't remove that much carbon. There is a limit to how much biomass you can have spread out across the Earth's surface. The current amount of CO2 we have already dumped into the atmosphere far exceeds whatever would be brought back from just plants. Other carbon containment methods (like limestone slurry creation) are too expensive.

It doesn't break the 2and law of thermodynamics. It just takes energy. If the CO2 actually needs scrubbing, then we need alternative energy. That means a significant shift in spending patterns.