Gori the Grey
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I was surprised too, Patine. But one can search the US Legal Code on multiple websites. I searched "aiding and abetting mass murder": No Results Found!
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Patine
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There's also the Nuremberg Protocols to consider, which were effectively ratified into U.S. criminal law in the Truman Era, and a large chunk of that legislation was co-authored by American jurists. Also, the U.S. Constitution gives no legal or permissible exception to violate it's own tenets, except by actual Amendments, in the way the War on Drugs and Patriot Act, as well as several Cold War era legislations also passed during the Biden era, do. So, there are grounds, even if not directly in the U.S. Criminal Code, per se.
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But that's the kind of law-breaking that the Biden administration will have the opportunity to prosecute or not, not those others.
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Dude. Go have a cup of tea.
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You just don't get it. You haven't been paying attention.
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I think it is you who are not paying attention, Patine. The article posted by Birdjaguar that initiated this exchange cited actual specific legal violations for which Trump might be charged: financial crimes, election law violations, obstruction of justice, public corruption, etc.
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I did, too, for Biden. And I said what legal areas declare them crimes.
Angst
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When you only have to remember a few issues, they're easier to point out. Trump has done so much crap I can barely keep track of it.
After Jan 20, Biden will be president and, apparently, one cannot investigate or indict a sitting president. You better hurry.
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Here's from the article, Patine:
specific, enumerated US statutes. Unless there is evidence of Biden having committed these, or such, offenses, then he could prosecute Trump without automatically (BSAEEB!) being liable to the same prosecution.
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Which is a status completely unbecoming of a head-of-state of a Republic, and only fitting of a head-of-state of a Monarchy, Theocracy, or Fascist or other Totalitarian Dictatorship. And, that immunity is not granted in the U.S. Constitution, but was created, more or less de facto than de jure, at a much later point in time when all U.S. Presidents were high criminals of the worst sort, anyways. Thus, that immunity is actually, by nature, Unconstitutional, and any Supreme Court that actually cares about the Constitution, the form of government of the United States, and the principals of justice can easily strike it down like cobwebs at any time.
So the past two pages can be answered by this. President-Elect Biden nor President Trump may be prosecuted for actions taken in performance of their official duties as President, Vice President, Senator, etc.
The Presidency as well as other government positions ala VP is protected from such "criminal" indictments via the SCOTUS ruling 1982 Nixon v. Fitzgerald
-Presidential Immunity
-Absolute Immunity
-Qualified Immunity
These would be your three legal terms which protects those who hold government positions, office, etc.
The only time a member of the government may be tried, sued, etc for a specific action is if it can be proven to be outside the scope of his office held. Thus "illegal wars" as has been mentioned in the numerous times in the past few pages are well within the purview of the office of the presidency, VP, and by extension of voting Senators and Congressmen. Outside of this President Trump will be liable for actions committed prior to his Presidency as they had no official government purpose as it was prior to him holding office.
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@Zardnaar , how much does a packet of cigarettes cost in NZ?
I googled it and saw something in the order of 36 dollars. Is this NZ dollars? It would still make it cost nearly 20 euros
That's all taxes. Particularly tobacco-producing countries could have had the price be less than 2 euros (as it once was).
Not your question, but here a pack of Red Marlboro is 5,90€.
As an unrepentant cigar smoker, I think it's a fraud. My (very low-end) cigars come in a pack of five, priced 5,20€. Halved, they're 40 minutes of greatness, whole - which is how they're best enjoyed - it's 90'.
Zardnaar
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Those are cheap.
https://www.discountt.co.nz/Price+List/Cigarettes+Price+List+2020.html
Discount brand is $28 and change for 20.
Almost $20 usd a pack.
Sofista
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Must feel great for a government to have acceptable targets available to raise some cash... 
Zardnaar
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Must feel great for a government to have acceptable targets available to raise some cash...
Also gives acceptable targets for robbers.
Just watched a robbery from 3 years ago. They used a hammer to hold up a service station. Cash and tobacco.
They're trying to wipe out smoking by 2030.
Yum yum have a smoke.
https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work...obacco-control/tobacco-standardised-packaging
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The oh so misguided, ineffective, and counterproductive history of Prohibition repeating itself. A really sad tale of fighting windmills.
Zardnaar
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They haven't prohibited it just taxing it hard.
They worked out the cost to public health was more than the tax take.
Think they've driven smoking rates down to 13% or something.
Even lower with Pakeha.
https://www.smokefree.org.nz/smoking-its-effects/facts-figures
12.5%.
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