There are the peace deals, and I guess they deserve credit.
Are North Korea and Iran less dangerous now than 4 years ago?
Are North Korea and Iran less dangerous now than 4 years ago?
2020 US Election (Part 3)
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Patine
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I fear when Biden takes the helm, the United States will once again become more internationally dangerous, to other nations and to it's own citizens through it's actions. The dogs of war will no doubt once more be let slip (for corporate profit and other real motives that are not in the citizens' interests but backed up by packs of lies). There's something that no one should look forward to.
Iran more because they trust the US even less and are more hesitant towards engaging in further negociations, so the Iran deal is on very shaky grounds. NK probably as dangerous.
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I had the N95 one way valve masks for construction work before the virus hit but I gave most of them to my doc's office and waited for the stores to restock. I think it was late March when our local golf courses shut down for a month and stores began requiring masks soon after that, so maybe March/April would have been when I started wearing them. Closing golf courses was stupid, but I did get to see our Gov Kelly and former Gov Sebellius on my home course when it reopened. yay
I understand why Fauci et al lied to us. Blaming Trump and ignoring the bipartisan nature of the lie is dangerous and hypocritical. As others have said, they should have told us the truth and provided ideas for people to make their own masks. Biden ran on trusting the people who lied to us while accusing Trump of not listening to them. Trump did listen to them and so did Biden and the Democrats and media - they all spread the lie. Now some are trying to rewrite history to blame only Trump for covid deaths. I remember watching politicians and pundits across the political spectrum downplaying the problem.
Trump's word has nothing to do with Cuomo or Pelosi, she's on tape inviting people to Chinatown and nobody in the crowd around her was wearing a mask.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/01/politics/andrew-cuomo-nursing-homes-fact-check/index.html
You blamed only Trump, that shifts blame away from people who deserve it too.
Trump can get away with shooting someone on 5th Avenue and Biden got away with destroying entire countries. And a million deaths later you still voted for a mass murderer... Please continue lecturing us about evil.
Fauci wasn't alone, he just admitted to what happened. The medical establishment feared a run on PPE so Trump, both parties and the media downplayed the virus and masks.
Biden said he will hire Fauci too, but policy was dictated by many people... 50 governors, state legislatures and courts, mayors, bureaucrats, etc. If the governor of NY sends sick people into nursing homes, who is responsible for the resulting deaths?
One small quibble, its believed Rubio hired Fusion during the primaries but Steele was hired later when the DNC replaced Rubio as Fusion's customer.
Because a youtube video you blocked showed Fauci admitting to a lie and people here are debating the matter. Did you block the debate too? The smugnorant dont know what they're missing.
Your link confirms what J said
John Anderson got close to 6m in 1980 so Reagan might have gotten 3-5m from him, but Obama's gain over Kerry came with a drop of 2m from Bush to McCain. Here's total ballots cast:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections
The previous record jump of 17m was 2004, the 2008 election had an increase of 9m votes and 2020 is still being counted so wiki has a range of 22m-28m more than 2016. It isn't highly unusual for 1 candidate to get over 10m more, but both? That hasn't ever happened, albeit 2004 was not far off the mark if we ignore Nader's presence.
The Dems got 51m ('00 Nader got 3m), 59m ('04), 69.5m ('08), 66m, ('12), 66m ('16), and 79m ('20)
The GOP got 50.5m ('00), 62m ('04), 60m ('08), 61m ('12), 63m ('16) and 73m ('20)
That probably explains the 2020 turnout, in 2004 Bush's war undoubtedly motivated both the uber patriots and the war's opponents. Sadly for the Dems they nominated someone who voted for the war.
Biden would have saved them though
Replying to just the response to me here. . . I get the inclination and desire just to recount counties that make me happy but that is not how that should work. Nor should systems of democratic elections be fungible in such ways. There are ways to count votes that would leave many states much more blue or red than others. The idea is that we do our best to match representation to the electorate. Thus our representative republic is actually representative of the population. We are a far cry from that now and only drifting further away from it. In a modern nation there is no stability in that.
my link showed that the idea that Bush won Florida at all is a farce. He lost actually and it should never be forgotten since it is one of the bigger divergent what if’s of the 21st century.
W likely lost, yes, due to the ballot controversy which easily would deplete his few hundred vote margin. Also, the recount was stopped by his brother, Jeb!
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What "democratic elections," and "representation of the people?" Do you REALLY still believe that's how Government and Leadership are chosen in the U.S.? After decades of powerful evidence to the contrary? The U.S. has one of the five crumbiest systems of electoral government selection in the First World, along with Japan, Singapore, Portugal, and Hungary. I thought you would have figured this out by now.
Angst
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I read an actual comparative research paper back in 2015 that compared the US with other Western nations. Not clarifying that I was talking about the West was my mistake. It mostly concerned itself with speculation that US healthcare costs were so much higher because US citizens are much less healthy, which wasn't the case. But as I pointed out, it was an old paper, I don't remember the name of it, and you are free to take it with a grain of salt.
This tone ("obviously"), however, is much more unnecessary, and I now understand why you get into fights with so many people. epeen doesn't actually work for anyone other than yourself you know.
Zardnaar
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@Zardnaar , how much does a packet of cigarettes cost in NZ?
I googled it and saw something in the order of 36 dollars. Is this NZ dollars? It would still make it cost nearly 20 euros
That's all taxes. Particularly tobacco-producing countries could have had the price be less than 2 euros (as it once was).
IDK the exact price but that seems realistic.
As I said a lot of robberies here are for tobacco.
Angst
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well iran itself was probabyl due to an international coalition trying to work together with the nation. iran deal comes to mind - where trump pulled out
onejayhawk
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You are mixing topics. He was claiming that Trump's primary appeal was racism.
Romney is a never-Trumper, so I take his comments with more sodium than my doctor recommends. There is enough statistical improbabilities--eg the unexpected size of the turnout, the known computer glitch, the large undercount, etc.--that a prima facia case can be made. Whether there is sufficient evidence for a judge is not yet known.
This is a significant point in Trump's favor.
It's related to the undercount, which means the ballots with votes for President and nothing else, ie not the undercard. They are unusual and there are suspicious numbers of them.
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Whether there is sufficient evidence for 23 judges is known. And the answer is that there is not.
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You get me here.
But you lose me here. It's effectively impossible to do any electoral fraud in Portugal, all votes are paper ballots hand-counted with all interested parties as witnesses. All counts are published. There are also plenty of parties and it's easy to set up one and run.
The idiot PM who tried to experiment 'electronic voting' here was kicked out from power long ago, and even got to spend a few years in prison since. The government's own technical advisors sought by him reported against it, for the obvious reason that whatever the tech used it could not be proven secure to the public. And it would me more expensive anyway.
Our recent generation of politicians has not managed to screw up the electoral system since 1975 because they can't find anything to attack it about. Fast, cheap and no fraud polemics ever.
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Zardnaar
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Same here, electronic voting isn't an option.
Your ballot paper also has a number on it cross referenced to electoral role.
You get the preliminary results generally on election night, final official results a month later.
They've idiot proofed it as much as they can do just follow the instructions or ask for help if you can't.
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I read an actual comparative research paper back in 2015 that compared the US with other Western nations. Not clarifying that I was talking about the West was my mistake. It mostly concerned itself with speculation that US healthcare costs were so much higher because US citizens are much less healthy, which wasn't the case. But as I pointed out, it was an old paper, I don't remember the name of it, and you are free to take it with a grain of salt.
This tone ("obviously"), however, is much more unnecessary, and I now understand why you get into fights with so many people. epeen doesn't actually work for anyone other than yourself you know.
Americans have a MUCH higher obesity rate than any country outside Mexico and some Polynesian and Micronesian ones, though, which is also VERY important to note, too.
Angst
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Oh I don't disagree! That said, it's been a while since I researched this thing, so it's probably time for me to touch up on it. It'll be relevant regardless of Covid just by virtue of Biden's planned ACA reform.
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we have paper votes here and every election has its fraud affair and A-K-P bragging afterwards , mostly involves counting affairs after the election . ln one case a cat entered a neighbourhood electric distribution building (because ı don't know the word for it and died and caused a blackout) ... But when the public is alert , it is more difficult as seen in recent Opposition successes .
This NYT article is so very good. Likely it is paywalled, but sometimes you an get a few free reads. It is very long and looks at the repercussions at both state and federal levels. Good reporting.
Can America Restore the Rule of Law Without Prosecuting Trump?
Donald Trump’s potential criminal liability is the key to understanding his presidency. When he leaves office, it will present the country with a historic dilemma.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/magazine/trump-investigations-criminal-prosecutions.html
Can America Restore the Rule of Law Without Prosecuting Trump?
Donald Trump’s potential criminal liability is the key to understanding his presidency. When he leaves office, it will present the country with a historic dilemma.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/magazine/trump-investigations-criminal-prosecutions.html
BornInCantaloup
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What sort of danger do they represent ? Are you buying in the Saddam Hussein, mad leader, WMD rethorics ?
Let it be said that those countries would be much less of an imaginary danger, without the USA initiating a slew of embargoes and economic sanctions to have afflict their populations and hold their leaders in power.
In the case of Iran, it is a clear question of control of the oil production and exports. There was a ruling, in favour of Saudi Arabia and US megacorps.
In the case of North Korea, it is a remnant of the old anti-communist, dominoes theory. Let alone some African countries that also suffer from famine, this is about the poorest country on earth.
Maybe we should add Yemen to the list. In a few years, they might be leading the Axis of Evil against American worldwide benevolence.
It can also be because the same operation would cost more in the US than it does elsewhere. There can be a wide margin for costs and benefits.
No. Your original statement was:
Spoiler :
QED. Romney is a staunchly conservative Republican. If his word isn't "proof" enough for you there is no "proof" that would be good enough for you... as I've already pointed out.
Wrong again. It is known. We already know there isn't sufficient evidence for a Judge, because Trump's lawsuits are getting tossed out of Court left and right by judges for lack of evidence... and his lawyers are dropping the suits and quitting.
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The better question is, "Can the U.S. CREATE a Rule of Law and an actual existence of justice as an institution without prosecuting their whole Federal political power class - of both Duopoly parties, serving and retired - and most senior military heads and big corporate plutocrats and every single member of the absolutely horrid, secretive, and unaccountable, "alphabet soup," agencies?"
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