NOTW XLIV: Only The Strong Game Thread [concluded]

[Visorslash]

Fixed.

There is a funny story to tell about how I caught you as scum; I said Mind over matter as a joke, because I thought you were asking a joke question.

 

[Mergle]

Because the game isn't over. And if the scum don't know each other (as implied by the scanner and what JHT said), then there will be a higher then average amount. Also, I am trying to nail two birds with one stone here. I suspect both Choxorn and Filli Noctus, however, I suspect FN more.

Demogogue must explain more to Ogre how his vote ideas keep choxorn alive if choxorn town. And how can ensure FN dies. Only 3 doviello left to vote. With demogogue's plan, unless both others follow his idea, FN will survive.

Ogre readying his club...

 

[Mergle]

Actually, Choxorn has told me that he can place traps, which would explain some of the deaths we saw earlier, noticeablely the wooden spike traps. THis leads me to believe that both Choxorn and Fillinoctus are scum and we should try to kill both today.

There is also my PM convo with Choxorn earlier in the thread, Choxorn's defence of JHT earlier when I was questioning him.

This enough for Ogre to unvote; vote:Choxorn. But ogre still need more explaining how FN dies.

 

[Visorslash]

Demogogue must explain more to Ogre how his vote ideas keep choxorn alive if choxorn town. And how can ensure FN dies. Only 3 doviello left to vote. With demogogue's plan, unless both others follow his idea, FN will survive.

Ogre readying his club...

Someone from the Doviello has to be champion. And we will target the other one. I know Choxorn's brawn level, he should die easily enough if he wasn't lying to me. As long as both Choxorn and Filli Noctus are targeted (one by each side hopefully) then the best result will come about. Otherwise, we simply go through another day phase.

 

[Visorslash]

FN may or may not die, but he will certainly die the next day if he survives.

 

[filli_noctus]

I'm not really expecting to survive much longer as the clan are cruising in for a minor victory.
However I've finally figured out exactly what makes you so suspicious. Tell me, are you familiar with the Milgram experiment? For those of you not familiar the experiment was a study conducted in the 60s on obedience. It is considered one of the more ethically dubious pieces if psychological research but is considered to be highly important. Essentially it demonstrated that when told to do so by an authority figure (in the experiment a white coated scientist) people are capable of inflicting lethal electric shocks to another person.
You might be asking yourself how this is relevant to the game. Here Visorslah has managed to get hold of some incriminating evidence handed to him on a platter by jht. By passing on that information (we'll gloss over the rules violation, put it down to excitement) and scalping a scumbag he has managed to make himself an authority. Having made himself an authority he is keeping the pace up with himself in charge of the conversation, preventing people thinking about his motives and allowing him to give orders. He's now focusing on me because I am undermining his authority and interfering with his plans to get you to lynch who he tells you to so he can pull off a RoZ victory.
You may have your doubts about me, but I assure you Visorslash is the bigger threat.

 

[Mergle]

Ogre very uncertain. Ogre wants others to talk to work this out.

 

[Mergle]

I'm not really expecting to survive much longer as the clan are cruising in for a minor victory.
However I've finally figured out exactly what makes you so suspicious. Tell me, are you familiar with the Milgram experiment? For those of you not familiar the experiment was a study conducted in the 60s on obedience. It is considered one of the more ethically dubious pieces if psychological research but is considered to be highly important. Essentially it demonstrated that when told to do so by an authority figure (in the experiment a white coated scientist) people are capable of inflicting lethal electric shocks to another person.
You might be asking yourself how this is relevant to the game. Here Visorslah has managed to get hold of some incriminating evidence handed to him on a platter by jht. By passing on that information (we'll gloss over the rules violation, put it down to excitement) and scalping a scumbag he has managed to make himself an authority. Having made himself an authority he is keeping the pace up with himself in charge of the conversation, preventing people thinking about his motives and allowing him to give orders. He's now focusing on me because I am undermining his authority and interfering with his plans to get you to lynch who he tells you to so he can pull off a RoZ victory.
You may have your doubts about me, but I assure you Visorslash is the bigger threat.

Ogre agrees 1 RoZ most likely left, because Ogre can count to 3. But Demogogue not focusing on you - his own vote focus on hunter choxorn with sensible speech pattern

 

[choxorn]

Actually, Choxorn has told me that he can place traps, which would explain some of the deaths we saw earlier, noticeablely the wooden spike traps. THis leads me to believe that both Choxorn and Fillinoctus are scum and we should try to kill both today.

There is also my PM convo with Choxorn earlier in the thread, Choxorn's defence of JHT earlier when I was questioning him.

CHoxorn and Filli Noctus must die.

Hunter can only place 2 sets of traps. In the entire game. To be fair, they can affect multiple people. Hunter places traps between two camps at night, anyone trying to go to the other camp to do something to someone from the other camp get caught in trap. Hunter used this two nights ago, when nobody died and classical said he walked into one of them. Hunter hasn't used his traps the second time. For crying out loud, Hunter is a Hunter. Hunter's traps are snares used to catch small animals, Hunter not have any wooden spikes.

And when did Hunter defend johnhughthom?

Hunter think filli noctus is scummy, but he also think that you and classical hero must explain your actions as well.

 

[NinjaCow64]

IT'S THIRD PERSON DAY!!!

Ninja think that it is highly unlikely that Visor is scum. Why, if he knew John was scum, didn't he just get his buddies to kill him? There were also numerous other ways he could have killed them though.

Vote: Choxorn and Vote: Mergle

I know many of you won't trust him until he is dead and in his death it says Might Makes Right but I think we don't have enough people to make that risk. Maybe if he's wrong about you guys. I don't know. Let's see what happens.

 

[choxorn]

Hunter think Ninja doing poor job of third-person-speech.

 

[NinjaCow64]

Hunter think Ninja doing poor job of third-person-speech.

Ninja thinks so too.

 

[Visorslash]

I'm not really expecting to survive much longer as the clan are cruising in for a minor victory.
However I've finally figured out exactly what makes you so suspicious. Tell me, are you familiar with the Milgram experiment? For those of you not familiar the experiment was a study conducted in the 60s on obedience. It is considered one of the more ethically dubious pieces if psychological research but is considered to be highly important. Essentially it demonstrated that when told to do so by an authority figure (in the experiment a white coated scientist) people are capable of inflicting lethal electric shocks to another person.
You might be asking yourself how this is relevant to the game. Here Visorslah has managed to get hold of some incriminating evidence handed to him on a platter by jht. By passing on that information (we'll gloss over the rules violation, put it down to excitement) and scalping a scumbag he has managed to make himself an authority. Having made himself an authority he is keeping the pace up with himself in charge of the conversation, preventing people thinking about his motives and allowing him to give orders. He's now focusing on me because I am undermining his authority and interfering with his plans to get you to lynch who he tells you to so he can pull off a RoZ victory.
You may have your doubts about me, but I assure you Visorslash is the bigger threat.

I am not a threat to anyone but RoZ and MoM. You are trying a last ditch defence to get me lynched and try to win your team a victory. It won't work. You are scum, and will die today.

 

[Visorslash]

You want me to explain my actions?

I PM'ed people pretending to be MoM so I could try and catch them as scum. I contacted BSmith and we set up a little network. Then he died because of the potions. I don't have a night action. My ability relates to the lynch, it gives the Clan champion two more strength in fighting, which is the reason I survived against CivCube, probably.

I have had contact with Earthling since the start of the game as well. What else do you want to know?

EDIT: I contacted BSmith, because I didn't think he was scum. I was right.

 

[Dreadnought]

Vote: filli noctus and Vote: classical hero.

Visor was my initial FoS for awhile, but it seems at this point we're forced to trust him. I don't think Mergle fits the role of Mind over Matter or Zombies, being an ogre; a goblin (backwards logic) also doesn't make too much sense. I'm going with classical as a filler.

As for filli, he's been suspicious for most of the game. I'll stick with him.

 

[choxorn]

You want me to explain my actions?

I suppose that's the best explanation you're going to give us.

So now, I want to know about classical: What were you doing the night I made the traps?

 

[Visorslash]

Hunter can only place 2 sets of traps. In the entire game. To be fair, they can affect multiple people. Hunter places traps between two camps at night, anyone trying to go to the other camp to do something to someone from the other camp get caught in trap. Hunter used this two nights ago, when nobody died and classical said he walked into one of them. Hunter hasn't used his traps the second time. For crying out loud, Hunter is a Hunter. Hunter's traps are snares used to catch small animals, Hunter not have any wooden spikes.

And when did Hunter defend johnhughthom?

Hunter think filli noctus is scummy, but he also think that you and classical hero must explain your actions as well.

When you said that I can't make a case against JHT for being a lurker when the doviello team is lurking themselves.

I suppose that's the best explanation you're going to give us.

So now, I want to know about classical: What were you doing the night I made the traps?

So you beleive Filli is scummy, but you won't vote him? Someone from the Doviello has to be a champion to fight.

 

[choxorn]

Hunter said that a case consisting solely of "he's lurking" is weak when he's hardly the only one. Not much of a defense.

Also, Hunter not see anything in rules explicitly saying we have to vote for a Champion in order to hurt Clan.

 

[Visorslash]

Rules/Special Mechanics
Targeting/ Nominating for Champion
Each day, vote for one member of your nation, and one of the other.

I would assume that means that if none of you vote for a Doviello Champion, then it takes a random one amongst the 3 of you.

 

[choxorn]

Hunter asks Autolycus to clarify the voting rules.